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On 13 February 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Franklin Armstrong. The result of the discussion was not moved. |
Should it be included the Job's black hand-puppet Franklin, from the show Arrested Development, is more than likely an allusion to this Franklin? D Haggerty 02:34, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 20:24, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
I cover the correspondence that inspired Schulz to create Franklin in both The Peanuts Collection (pages 48-49) and in the just-coming-out-now issue of Hogan's Alley. I'm not going to add that material myself now, for WP:COI reasons, but others should consider adding the appropriate material on Harriet Glickman. -- Nat Gertler ( talk) 23:12, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
I see someone has added in "Armstrong" as Franklin's last name. This was never established in the strip; it's a name taken from the TV specials, which Schulz did not view as continuity. I would suggest it be deleted. -- Nat Gertler ( talk) 22:30, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
As it is getting some real media coverage, today's celebration of Franklin Day may be worth adding to the article. -- Nat Gertler ( talk) 20:47, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
http://kotaku.com/franklin-broke-peanuts-color-barrier-in-the-least-inter-1793843085 Gamaliel ( talk) 14:29, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
The intro paragraph states Franklin was last featured in 1999, but I just saw him in 2003's I Want a Dog for Christmas, Charlie Brown and he's listed in those credits. Also, on this very page they list the voice artists who spoke for Franklin in 2015 & 2016. Clearly the statement needs removed or else clarified (such as if this means he hasn't appeared in the news paper comic strip, which I also tend to doubt to be true). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raszoo ( talk • contribs) 02:01, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
An editor has recently edited the article to switch the claim that Franklin was the "first" African American in the strip to the claim that he was the "only" one. This is inaccurate; the character Milo, introduced in 1977, is by all appearances African American as well. I am trying to avoid editing this page due to a Peanuts conflict of interest, but I encourage other editors to verify what I say and make the appropriate correction. -- Nat Gertler ( talk) 15:08, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
The article currently uses the Hogan's Alley article "Crossing The Color Line in Black and White" as a reference. This reference should be corrected in two ways:
I will not make the change myself, as I have an obvious WP:COI. -- Nat Gertler ( talk) 03:54, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
This is certainly ironic. Today newspapers can print comic strips in 2 ways: color or black and white. The black and white version is essentially the color version with all the color removed, although a few newspapers print the color version in black and white, resulting in a very unattracitve collection of gray tones.
Now when Schulz originally drew Franklin, he represented his dark skin with vertical lines. Today, Franklin's skin is simply colored a medium brown, without the vertical lines. When this color is removed for the black and white version, Franklin appears as white as any of the other characters, as can be seen for example April 8 2023. In fact, unless he is addressed by name, you might not realize that it's him. 2600:4040:5D30:4800:391D:45CA:A0C5:E597 ( talk) 15:37, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. ( non-admin closure) Skynxnex ( talk) 20:06, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
Franklin (Peanuts) → Franklin Armstrong – As the main page explains, Franklin's surname of Armstrong was never mentioned in the strip but only in one special. Since Robb Armstrong says that Schulz picked the name based on him, and since the forthcoming special uses the same surname, is this evidence enough that "Armstrong" is canonically Franklin's last name? A similar example would be the canonicity of "Tiberius" as James T. Kirk's middle name, which was only mentioned in Star Trek: The Animated Series, or "Lathrop" as Emmett L. Brown's, which is only mentioned in Back to the Future: The Animated Series. Does this apply to last names too? One example I can think of is Benson from Soap, who was only given the surname DuBois in his spin-off. How prominent does a supplementary source have to be to be canonical? Specialsam110 ( talk) 19:06, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
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On 13 February 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Franklin Armstrong. The result of the discussion was not moved. |
Should it be included the Job's black hand-puppet Franklin, from the show Arrested Development, is more than likely an allusion to this Franklin? D Haggerty 02:34, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Image:Franklinintro.gif is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.
BetacommandBot ( talk) 20:24, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
I cover the correspondence that inspired Schulz to create Franklin in both The Peanuts Collection (pages 48-49) and in the just-coming-out-now issue of Hogan's Alley. I'm not going to add that material myself now, for WP:COI reasons, but others should consider adding the appropriate material on Harriet Glickman. -- Nat Gertler ( talk) 23:12, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
I see someone has added in "Armstrong" as Franklin's last name. This was never established in the strip; it's a name taken from the TV specials, which Schulz did not view as continuity. I would suggest it be deleted. -- Nat Gertler ( talk) 22:30, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
As it is getting some real media coverage, today's celebration of Franklin Day may be worth adding to the article. -- Nat Gertler ( talk) 20:47, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
http://kotaku.com/franklin-broke-peanuts-color-barrier-in-the-least-inter-1793843085 Gamaliel ( talk) 14:29, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
The intro paragraph states Franklin was last featured in 1999, but I just saw him in 2003's I Want a Dog for Christmas, Charlie Brown and he's listed in those credits. Also, on this very page they list the voice artists who spoke for Franklin in 2015 & 2016. Clearly the statement needs removed or else clarified (such as if this means he hasn't appeared in the news paper comic strip, which I also tend to doubt to be true). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raszoo ( talk • contribs) 02:01, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
An editor has recently edited the article to switch the claim that Franklin was the "first" African American in the strip to the claim that he was the "only" one. This is inaccurate; the character Milo, introduced in 1977, is by all appearances African American as well. I am trying to avoid editing this page due to a Peanuts conflict of interest, but I encourage other editors to verify what I say and make the appropriate correction. -- Nat Gertler ( talk) 15:08, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
The article currently uses the Hogan's Alley article "Crossing The Color Line in Black and White" as a reference. This reference should be corrected in two ways:
I will not make the change myself, as I have an obvious WP:COI. -- Nat Gertler ( talk) 03:54, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
This is certainly ironic. Today newspapers can print comic strips in 2 ways: color or black and white. The black and white version is essentially the color version with all the color removed, although a few newspapers print the color version in black and white, resulting in a very unattracitve collection of gray tones.
Now when Schulz originally drew Franklin, he represented his dark skin with vertical lines. Today, Franklin's skin is simply colored a medium brown, without the vertical lines. When this color is removed for the black and white version, Franklin appears as white as any of the other characters, as can be seen for example April 8 2023. In fact, unless he is addressed by name, you might not realize that it's him. 2600:4040:5D30:4800:391D:45CA:A0C5:E597 ( talk) 15:37, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. ( non-admin closure) Skynxnex ( talk) 20:06, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
Franklin (Peanuts) → Franklin Armstrong – As the main page explains, Franklin's surname of Armstrong was never mentioned in the strip but only in one special. Since Robb Armstrong says that Schulz picked the name based on him, and since the forthcoming special uses the same surname, is this evidence enough that "Armstrong" is canonically Franklin's last name? A similar example would be the canonicity of "Tiberius" as James T. Kirk's middle name, which was only mentioned in Star Trek: The Animated Series, or "Lathrop" as Emmett L. Brown's, which is only mentioned in Back to the Future: The Animated Series. Does this apply to last names too? One example I can think of is Benson from Soap, who was only given the surname DuBois in his spin-off. How prominent does a supplementary source have to be to be canonical? Specialsam110 ( talk) 19:06, 13 February 2024 (UTC)