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I've added the above WPs because they are relevant, although it is not immediately apparent from the article. Searle was involved in a couple of companies manufacturing inner tubes for tyres and the LGOC. He served in the Tank Corps during WWI, rising to Lt. Col or Col (he was always referred to as Col. Searle post-war). He started Daimler Air Hire in 1919, which later became Daimler Airway and was absorbed into Imperial Airways, of which Searle became Chairman. He was also involved in BSA and Daimler Motor Co pre-war, and Daimler Motor Co and Rover post-war, apparently retiring in 1931. He died in 1948. Mjroots ( talk) 17:36, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
Searle took his deputy from Daimler Airway, Humphery, to do the same at Imperial Airways. Searle disappears from view about April 1925 when there was public commotion about noise from aircraft near their base and after the accident inquiries. He resurfaces in the 'recovery situation' at Rover in 1929. Then 1929/1930 Humphery is promoted to Managing director at Imperial Airways with no mention of Searle's departure.
After a world tour by Searle Rover begins assembly with lots of local content in both Australia and New Zealand in the early thirties, both efforts, I think, fail. What happened to Searle then? The ODNB writer does not know either. Eddaido ( talk) 14:54, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
Just been having a look at the Census and records for Frank Searle and something is not right.
A Frank Searle that was born in 1875 in the East Preston district (which includes Worthing) he appears in the 1881 census at 74 High Street, Broadwater as a 5-year old with his parents George and Charlotte (his father is descibed as an Iron Moulder. (two brothers Jabez and Ernest and two sisters Minnie and Jessie.
In the 1901 census at 46 North Street, Worthing he is described as a 25-year old single Carpenter still with his parents George and Charlotte (his father described as a Pimp & Firewood Merchant and Mail Contractor).
In the 1911 census he is lving at Lyndhurst Road, Worthing and is described as a 35-year old Carpenter married to Maude and has one son Herbert.
A Frank Searle was born in the Greenwich district of London in 1874 Q4.
In the 1881 census of Deptford (282 new cross road) Frank Searle aged six, scholar, father Henry Searle a Draper and his wife Elizabeth.
In the 1891 census of Deptford (282 new cross road) Frank Searle aged 16 Steam Engine Fitters Apprentice, he appears to be living with his brothers Sydney C (26), Arthur (17) and sisters Bessia A (22) and Edith (19).
1897 Marriage in Greenwich district Frank Searle = Charlotte Louise Soyer
In the 1901 census of Lewisham at Perry Hill, Lewisham is a Charlotte L Searle with daughter Joan L (aged 2) and Mary (aged 1) and a son Geoffrey (2 months) , her husband doesnt appear to be at home.
In the 1911 census in North Finchley, Barnet is a Frank Searle a 36-year old Mechanical engineer born New Cross in London with his wife Charlotte Louis and two daughters Joan Louise (12) and Molly (11) and a son Richard Soyer (8).
1944 death in Bournemouth - Charlotte L Searle aged 68 1945 marriage in Bournemouth - Franke Searle = Alice F Ford
MilborneOne, expansion of the Personal section would be desirable. Anything you can add here would be appreciated. Mjroots ( talk) 11:25, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
|first=Theo |last=Barker
adding to it. As MilborneOne is busy at the moment, it can be added when he's finished.
Mjroots (
talk)
12:34, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
I understand the need to show the strenth of our conflict with ODNB's reports on Searle's origins but is our concern becoming just a little too prominent in the man's biography? If this text were put in a note it is still available to readers without obstructing the narrative. There is a big problem. Refs cannot be nested (you will understand what I mean, I don't) with an untidy result in the note. However I know I am in the company of distinguished gentlemen editors who are Bound to have a Wikipedian solution!?
My suggestion for the text of the note would be:
Searle appears in the 1881 census of Greenwich living with his parents and siblings at 282 New Cross Road in Deptford, he is described as a six-year old scholar. [1] In the 1891 census Searle is still at 282 New Cross Road with his siblings and he is described as a 16-year old steam engine fitters apprentice. [2]
Searle doesn't appear to be with his wife and family at the time of the 1901 census; his wife Charlotte is living at 112 Perry Hill in Lewisham with three children, Joan aged 2, Mary aged 1 and Geoffrey aged 2 months. [3] In the 1911 census of Barnet, Hertfordshire, Searle and his wife, two daughters and a son Richard Soyer Searle are living in North Finchley, Searle is described as a mechanical engineer with the London and General Omnibus Company. [4]
leaving in the main article: Searle was born in 1874 at Greenwich, (then in Kent), the son of draper Henry Searle and his wife Elizabeth (nee Croaker). [5] In 1897 he married Charlotte Louise Soyer. [6] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eddaido ( talk • contribs) 02:51, 26 April 2011
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![]() | A fact from Frank Searle (businessman) appeared on Wikipedia's
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I've added the above WPs because they are relevant, although it is not immediately apparent from the article. Searle was involved in a couple of companies manufacturing inner tubes for tyres and the LGOC. He served in the Tank Corps during WWI, rising to Lt. Col or Col (he was always referred to as Col. Searle post-war). He started Daimler Air Hire in 1919, which later became Daimler Airway and was absorbed into Imperial Airways, of which Searle became Chairman. He was also involved in BSA and Daimler Motor Co pre-war, and Daimler Motor Co and Rover post-war, apparently retiring in 1931. He died in 1948. Mjroots ( talk) 17:36, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
Searle took his deputy from Daimler Airway, Humphery, to do the same at Imperial Airways. Searle disappears from view about April 1925 when there was public commotion about noise from aircraft near their base and after the accident inquiries. He resurfaces in the 'recovery situation' at Rover in 1929. Then 1929/1930 Humphery is promoted to Managing director at Imperial Airways with no mention of Searle's departure.
After a world tour by Searle Rover begins assembly with lots of local content in both Australia and New Zealand in the early thirties, both efforts, I think, fail. What happened to Searle then? The ODNB writer does not know either. Eddaido ( talk) 14:54, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
Just been having a look at the Census and records for Frank Searle and something is not right.
A Frank Searle that was born in 1875 in the East Preston district (which includes Worthing) he appears in the 1881 census at 74 High Street, Broadwater as a 5-year old with his parents George and Charlotte (his father is descibed as an Iron Moulder. (two brothers Jabez and Ernest and two sisters Minnie and Jessie.
In the 1901 census at 46 North Street, Worthing he is described as a 25-year old single Carpenter still with his parents George and Charlotte (his father described as a Pimp & Firewood Merchant and Mail Contractor).
In the 1911 census he is lving at Lyndhurst Road, Worthing and is described as a 35-year old Carpenter married to Maude and has one son Herbert.
A Frank Searle was born in the Greenwich district of London in 1874 Q4.
In the 1881 census of Deptford (282 new cross road) Frank Searle aged six, scholar, father Henry Searle a Draper and his wife Elizabeth.
In the 1891 census of Deptford (282 new cross road) Frank Searle aged 16 Steam Engine Fitters Apprentice, he appears to be living with his brothers Sydney C (26), Arthur (17) and sisters Bessia A (22) and Edith (19).
1897 Marriage in Greenwich district Frank Searle = Charlotte Louise Soyer
In the 1901 census of Lewisham at Perry Hill, Lewisham is a Charlotte L Searle with daughter Joan L (aged 2) and Mary (aged 1) and a son Geoffrey (2 months) , her husband doesnt appear to be at home.
In the 1911 census in North Finchley, Barnet is a Frank Searle a 36-year old Mechanical engineer born New Cross in London with his wife Charlotte Louis and two daughters Joan Louise (12) and Molly (11) and a son Richard Soyer (8).
1944 death in Bournemouth - Charlotte L Searle aged 68 1945 marriage in Bournemouth - Franke Searle = Alice F Ford
MilborneOne, expansion of the Personal section would be desirable. Anything you can add here would be appreciated. Mjroots ( talk) 11:25, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
|first=Theo |last=Barker
adding to it. As MilborneOne is busy at the moment, it can be added when he's finished.
Mjroots (
talk)
12:34, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
I understand the need to show the strenth of our conflict with ODNB's reports on Searle's origins but is our concern becoming just a little too prominent in the man's biography? If this text were put in a note it is still available to readers without obstructing the narrative. There is a big problem. Refs cannot be nested (you will understand what I mean, I don't) with an untidy result in the note. However I know I am in the company of distinguished gentlemen editors who are Bound to have a Wikipedian solution!?
My suggestion for the text of the note would be:
Searle appears in the 1881 census of Greenwich living with his parents and siblings at 282 New Cross Road in Deptford, he is described as a six-year old scholar. [1] In the 1891 census Searle is still at 282 New Cross Road with his siblings and he is described as a 16-year old steam engine fitters apprentice. [2]
Searle doesn't appear to be with his wife and family at the time of the 1901 census; his wife Charlotte is living at 112 Perry Hill in Lewisham with three children, Joan aged 2, Mary aged 1 and Geoffrey aged 2 months. [3] In the 1911 census of Barnet, Hertfordshire, Searle and his wife, two daughters and a son Richard Soyer Searle are living in North Finchley, Searle is described as a mechanical engineer with the London and General Omnibus Company. [4]
leaving in the main article: Searle was born in 1874 at Greenwich, (then in Kent), the son of draper Henry Searle and his wife Elizabeth (nee Croaker). [5] In 1897 he married Charlotte Louise Soyer. [6] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eddaido ( talk • contribs) 02:51, 26 April 2011
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