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As you can see, I'm in the midst of a copyedit of this article. I'm writing here to express some of my doubts about the tone of this article. Honestly, much of the stuff about his early life smells a little suspicious. It all seems meant to give the impression that he was a sinner who changed his ways, and it seems a little POV. Sure enough, the titles of all the sources seem to suggest that they were written by insiders -- that is, evangelical Christians. I realize that it makes sense, since they are the group most likely to be interested in him as a subject. I just think this article adopts their positive a little too closely. I think the best way to fix that would be to add attribution throughout the article, as in, "So-and-so says that Jenner...." or "According John Smith..."
I'm going to keep copyediting, without doing anything drastic, but I look forwarding to hearing comments. Bobnorwal ( talk) 18:38, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
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Initial comments: This is a very strong GA candidate. Immediately, I notice a minor overlinking problem. WP:OVERLINKING cautions us not to link "the names of major geographic features and locations; languages; religions; common occupations" as well as "everyday words understood by most readers in context". You should look through the article and unlink words like Christian, insane, New York, exaggeration, etc., as well as duplicate links, such as Evangelism linked twice in the lead. None of this is a requirement for GA status, but I thought I'd mention it, for the improvement of the article.
Also, I have made some copy-edits for grammar fixes or prose improvements. [1] [2] [3] [4] Some of these are just my opinion. If you disagree with any of my changes, feel free to revert and discuss. The following are issues I've identified.
GA review – see
WP:WIAGA for criteria
Excellent changes so far! – Quadell ( talk) 19:32, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
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As you can see, I'm in the midst of a copyedit of this article. I'm writing here to express some of my doubts about the tone of this article. Honestly, much of the stuff about his early life smells a little suspicious. It all seems meant to give the impression that he was a sinner who changed his ways, and it seems a little POV. Sure enough, the titles of all the sources seem to suggest that they were written by insiders -- that is, evangelical Christians. I realize that it makes sense, since they are the group most likely to be interested in him as a subject. I just think this article adopts their positive a little too closely. I think the best way to fix that would be to add attribution throughout the article, as in, "So-and-so says that Jenner...." or "According John Smith..."
I'm going to keep copyediting, without doing anything drastic, but I look forwarding to hearing comments. Bobnorwal ( talk) 18:38, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
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Reviewer:
Quadell (
talk ·
contribs) 16:15, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
Nominator:
Neelix
Initial comments: This is a very strong GA candidate. Immediately, I notice a minor overlinking problem. WP:OVERLINKING cautions us not to link "the names of major geographic features and locations; languages; religions; common occupations" as well as "everyday words understood by most readers in context". You should look through the article and unlink words like Christian, insane, New York, exaggeration, etc., as well as duplicate links, such as Evangelism linked twice in the lead. None of this is a requirement for GA status, but I thought I'd mention it, for the improvement of the article.
Also, I have made some copy-edits for grammar fixes or prose improvements. [1] [2] [3] [4] Some of these are just my opinion. If you disagree with any of my changes, feel free to revert and discuss. The following are issues I've identified.
GA review – see
WP:WIAGA for criteria
Excellent changes so far! – Quadell ( talk) 19:32, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
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