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The {{1911}} is only a guess, but the statistics are from 1910. Peter Grey 20:08, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Use of the term Bernardines

I have removed the redirection from "Bernardines" to this page. I have done this on the grounds that Bernardine is far more commonly usually used as an expression for the Order of Cistercians- see that article see reference to this. The redirection therefore gives significant cause for confusion.

The only reference to Bernardines I could find in this article as it stood was "In Poland the order is also known as the Bernardines." I cannot really verify the truth of this statement, as I am not based in Poland. It is possible, given that there was a Bernardine Franciscan reform (so called after St. Bernardine of Siena), propagated by St. Bernardine and St. Giovanni da Capistrano. However, this reform did not affect the whole Order, and thus it seems unusual to my mind that the whole Order would be termed Bernardines (although someone with more knowledge of Poland may be able to explain this). So I have removed this sentence ("In Poland the order is also known as the Bernardines) in the sincere belief that it is too generalised at the moment and may well be based on a misapprehension; if somebody wants to reinstate it (perhaps explaining the reason why it is so), then they can go ahead. -- Robotforaday 15:53, 4 February 2006 (UTC) reply

I recommend merging this article with the article titled "Franciscan". Otherwise, it seems a duplication of the information given there. Daniel the Monk ( talk) 15:14, 29 July 2011 (UTC) reply

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The {{1911}} is only a guess, but the statistics are from 1910. Peter Grey 20:08, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Use of the term Bernardines

I have removed the redirection from "Bernardines" to this page. I have done this on the grounds that Bernardine is far more commonly usually used as an expression for the Order of Cistercians- see that article see reference to this. The redirection therefore gives significant cause for confusion.

The only reference to Bernardines I could find in this article as it stood was "In Poland the order is also known as the Bernardines." I cannot really verify the truth of this statement, as I am not based in Poland. It is possible, given that there was a Bernardine Franciscan reform (so called after St. Bernardine of Siena), propagated by St. Bernardine and St. Giovanni da Capistrano. However, this reform did not affect the whole Order, and thus it seems unusual to my mind that the whole Order would be termed Bernardines (although someone with more knowledge of Poland may be able to explain this). So I have removed this sentence ("In Poland the order is also known as the Bernardines) in the sincere belief that it is too generalised at the moment and may well be based on a misapprehension; if somebody wants to reinstate it (perhaps explaining the reason why it is so), then they can go ahead. -- Robotforaday 15:53, 4 February 2006 (UTC) reply

I recommend merging this article with the article titled "Franciscan". Otherwise, it seems a duplication of the information given there. Daniel the Monk ( talk) 15:14, 29 July 2011 (UTC) reply


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