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Remer was anything but a "conservative thinker". Being in command of the Berlin garrison when the attempt on Hitler`s life took place on July 20th 1944, Remer was responsible for the mass killings of conservative German officers. It was Remer and his soldiers who court-martialled and shot Stauffenberg and his companions. Remer might have been a gallant and dashing soldier, but apart from that, he was a Nazi scoundrel who took pride in quelling Stauffenberg`s coup d`etat for the rest of his life.
I read in Laird Wilcox's 1996 book American Extremists that Willis Carto was opposed to many of the more liberal views espoused by Yokey (apparently, Carto attempted to ignore this and promote choice pro-Nazi and anti-semitic tidbits in The Spotlight). Permission to add this info? 69.248.43.27 02:06, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Philosophy is defined on Wikipedia as "Philosophy is the study of general problems concerning matters such as existence, knowledge, truth, beauty, justice, validity, mind, and language." Therefore, it is entirely accurate to say that he was a philosopher. I did modify the term to "political philosopher" since that is the area with which he dealt the most, however. -- Jbmorgan4 ( talk) 18:17, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
That's not true. There is political content to Yockey's writing, but he also engaged with various metaphysical topics as well such as the nature of history. To compare Yockey's Imperium to the Bush Doctrine is absurd. Oswald Spengler, upon whose work Yockey modeled his own writing, is called a philosopher on Wikipedia. If Spengler is a philosopher, then Yockey should qualify as well (or else there needs to be a serious debate about what constitutes philosophy on Wikipedia, and many other entries will need revision as well).-- Jbmorgan4 ( talk) 19:10, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
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Hitler is not mentioned anywhere in the book (although Mussolini is acknowledged) - so I am inclined to question whether the work really was dedicated to Hitler, as stated in this "Wikipedia" article's main page. In addition, it may be indicative that the word 'hero' in Yockey's dedication - is not capitalized. DLMcN ( talk) 21:23, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
No challenge has been received to my above claim - nor even a reply - so presumably I can now go ahead and delete the piece concerned? DLMcN ( talk) 10:11, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
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I am inclined to put back the piece: "Although he [= Yockey] was a devotee of Oswald Spengler (who was critical of the Nazis)," - which was removed by Treybien on 25th June. That^ statement is correct, and it is important. Spengler criticised the anti-Semitic policies of the Nazis - despite the fact that in the mid-1930s they were still 'mild' compared with the appalling horrors which would unfold in the 1940s -- DLMcN ( talk) 16:43, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
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There are plenty of pictures of Yockey available--could we upload one? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.254.237.80 ( talk) 04:42, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
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Yockey was an antisemite, a Nazi sympathizer, a fascist, and a white nationalist. The sky is blue. Any disagreement? Mewnst ( talk) 18:52, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
ArsenalAtletico2017, your edits removed some references to Yockey's and Imperium's Nazism from the top. Do you want to discuss the rationale and sources? Llll5032 ( talk) 22:47, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
I have redirected to this article from The Enemy of Europe after that article was deemed to be not notable by a rough talk page consensus (with one editor dissenting). If anyone would like to argue for recreating that article, feel free to do so here. Generalrelative ( talk) 03:49, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
Hi Llll5032. It looks like you added some sfn citations to Lee 2013. Are these references to The Beast Awakens? And if so, do the page numbers come from the 1997, 2000, or some later version? Firefangledfeathers ( talk / contribs) 14:39, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
I´m going to delete the claim that Schmitt had a copy of Imperium, unless someone else here has evidence of the specific. I want to get to the bottom of who placed this article under need of better verification. StrongALPHA ( talk) 15:08, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
I understand that it comes from the Coogan, but let me look at it again I think the book itself includes alternate sources for the claims it makes. StrongALPHA ( talk) 17:08, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
I understand some of it like mentioning H.G. Wells may sound a bit generic, but there is a point to this, that this was a subject that highly interested Yockey. In the case of Wells, I only mention it because it was found in his suitcase alongside the occult material that the FBI took at the time of his suicide. StrongALPHA ( talk) 18:51, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
in his work Imperium he states there have been 5 Millenium of history. Implying belief in a 5,000 or so year old Earth. 2600:1702:CC7:1A20:7DB7:6AFE:EBD0:A75F ( talk) 03:04, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
To say that Yockey called for a right wing pan European empire would be correct but to say it would be neo-nazi is abnormal given how he believed that race was more so cultured based not geneticly and saying it was dedicated to hitler is strange given although he said it was dedicated to the hero of world war 2. the ideologies of Hitler and Yockey were different i.e according to Yockey a Jewish person could become a westener if he renounced his Jewish beliefs and assimilated to westerner culture Waterdrinker11 ( talk) 19:55, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
"called for a transnational, neo-Nazi European Empire"[1] and it is
"dedicated to 'the hero of the Second World War' (Adolf Hitler)".[2] Llll5032 ( talk) 17:46, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
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...Imperium, which called for a transnational, neo-Nazi European Empire...
As is, it says in the early life section that Yockey's biographer Kevin Coogan "wrote that Yockey's associate James Madole once claimed Yockey was one-quarter Jewish, but there is no evidence for this". The latter part is true, there is no evidence for this. Less than 5 minutes after editing it, it was reverted saying that I "missed the point" as "james madole was someone close to yockey" As to this, it is important to understand the context in which it is stated in Coogan's biography. He states that Madole wrote in passing that Yockey was "quarter-Jewish" in an article, however it is vital to mention the fact that the article (which, by the way, I cannot find a source of besides reference to it in the book) was an attempt to defend a friend of his, Dan Burros (who was also heavily inspired by Yockey) who was a vicious anti-semite after Burros commited suicide after being exposed for being Jewish himself. Given the context that this was something Madole only mentioned in passing to try to defend a friend of his who now had his only legacy among anti-semites, this does not hold weight at all, and it holds even lesser weight when you consider Madole did not even know Yockey by his real name, but rather a fake identity (it is possible Yockey could have lied about being quarter-Jewish, but I doubt this) so Madole was not exactly an expert when it came to details of Yockey's life. But that's not all. Coogan tries to claim that he cannot "confirm nor deny" that Yockey's grandfather was Jewish as his grandfather was actually.. not his grandfather? Coogan then tries to back this up by stating that Yockey's putative grandfather, the German-born Valentin Yocky/Jacky could not have been Yockey's grandfather because the old man's gravestone says he died in 1883, while Yockey's dad wasn't born until 1886. However, censuses, draft registrations, and consular records mostly state that Yockey's father Louis was born in May 1883. I think that pretty much dispels Coogan's point, especially considering one of the few things Coogan consistantly got wrong in his biography were details of Yockey's family, but as to not gloss over any detail I will bring up the other part Coogan tried to use as an argument for this. He states: "Alice told the FBI that 'her nephew is very pro-German, and she is of the opinion that this pro-German attitude was brought about by the influence Yockey's grandfather, who was a German, had on Yockey.' Since Francis clearly knew his grandfather, he could not have been Valentine Yockey". This vague statement teaches us very little about Yockey, and it does not show that Yockey's grandfather was some mystery man instead of what it says on all Government documents, it could simply mean that Yockey was pro-German due to the fact that his grandfather was German, or that his grandfather inspired him. Additionally, if his grandfather were Jewish, don't you think his aunt would think to mention this to the FBI who was investigating his political activities which they knew included open anti-semitic stances?
Given everything I have written, I do not believe this should be written in the article any more than Yockey being a unicorn, as there is there is "no evidence for this" either. If you do plan on reverting me again, I do hope you explain as to why before doing so. 67.254.242.193 ( talk) 02:02, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
a mere IP address"... Wow, that's not a good approach. If you have a reason to think the IP is acting in bad faith, spit it out, otherwise don't cast aspersions.
Llll5032, What evidence does Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke have - to justify his [questionable] claim that Yockey was dedicating to Hitler, his book "Imperium"? ... Regards, DLMcN ( talk) 08:29, 13 May 2024 (UTC) [User:DLMcN|DLMcN]] ( talk) 08:19, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
Yockey wrote Imperium under the pseudonym Ulick Varange, which to him symbolized the meeting of Ireland-with-Russia. The writer was savvy enough not to mention the names Hitler or National Socialism in the book at all, instead relying on code terms like “Prussian Socialism” and “the European Revolution of 1933” to get his neofascist message across. Imperium’s basic message at the time was to assure hardcore fascists across the globe that their Nazi dreams were not in vain, that fascism truly did represent the realization of the Spirit of the Age, and that “the day” would come again, if fascists would avoid petty-statism in pursuit of the Imperium.
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Remer was anything but a "conservative thinker". Being in command of the Berlin garrison when the attempt on Hitler`s life took place on July 20th 1944, Remer was responsible for the mass killings of conservative German officers. It was Remer and his soldiers who court-martialled and shot Stauffenberg and his companions. Remer might have been a gallant and dashing soldier, but apart from that, he was a Nazi scoundrel who took pride in quelling Stauffenberg`s coup d`etat for the rest of his life.
I read in Laird Wilcox's 1996 book American Extremists that Willis Carto was opposed to many of the more liberal views espoused by Yokey (apparently, Carto attempted to ignore this and promote choice pro-Nazi and anti-semitic tidbits in The Spotlight). Permission to add this info? 69.248.43.27 02:06, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Philosophy is defined on Wikipedia as "Philosophy is the study of general problems concerning matters such as existence, knowledge, truth, beauty, justice, validity, mind, and language." Therefore, it is entirely accurate to say that he was a philosopher. I did modify the term to "political philosopher" since that is the area with which he dealt the most, however. -- Jbmorgan4 ( talk) 18:17, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
That's not true. There is political content to Yockey's writing, but he also engaged with various metaphysical topics as well such as the nature of history. To compare Yockey's Imperium to the Bush Doctrine is absurd. Oswald Spengler, upon whose work Yockey modeled his own writing, is called a philosopher on Wikipedia. If Spengler is a philosopher, then Yockey should qualify as well (or else there needs to be a serious debate about what constitutes philosophy on Wikipedia, and many other entries will need revision as well).-- Jbmorgan4 ( talk) 19:10, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
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Hitler is not mentioned anywhere in the book (although Mussolini is acknowledged) - so I am inclined to question whether the work really was dedicated to Hitler, as stated in this "Wikipedia" article's main page. In addition, it may be indicative that the word 'hero' in Yockey's dedication - is not capitalized. DLMcN ( talk) 21:23, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
No challenge has been received to my above claim - nor even a reply - so presumably I can now go ahead and delete the piece concerned? DLMcN ( talk) 10:11, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
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I am inclined to put back the piece: "Although he [= Yockey] was a devotee of Oswald Spengler (who was critical of the Nazis)," - which was removed by Treybien on 25th June. That^ statement is correct, and it is important. Spengler criticised the anti-Semitic policies of the Nazis - despite the fact that in the mid-1930s they were still 'mild' compared with the appalling horrors which would unfold in the 1940s -- DLMcN ( talk) 16:43, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
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There are plenty of pictures of Yockey available--could we upload one? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.254.237.80 ( talk) 04:42, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
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Yockey was an antisemite, a Nazi sympathizer, a fascist, and a white nationalist. The sky is blue. Any disagreement? Mewnst ( talk) 18:52, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
ArsenalAtletico2017, your edits removed some references to Yockey's and Imperium's Nazism from the top. Do you want to discuss the rationale and sources? Llll5032 ( talk) 22:47, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
I have redirected to this article from The Enemy of Europe after that article was deemed to be not notable by a rough talk page consensus (with one editor dissenting). If anyone would like to argue for recreating that article, feel free to do so here. Generalrelative ( talk) 03:49, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
Hi Llll5032. It looks like you added some sfn citations to Lee 2013. Are these references to The Beast Awakens? And if so, do the page numbers come from the 1997, 2000, or some later version? Firefangledfeathers ( talk / contribs) 14:39, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
I´m going to delete the claim that Schmitt had a copy of Imperium, unless someone else here has evidence of the specific. I want to get to the bottom of who placed this article under need of better verification. StrongALPHA ( talk) 15:08, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
I understand that it comes from the Coogan, but let me look at it again I think the book itself includes alternate sources for the claims it makes. StrongALPHA ( talk) 17:08, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
I understand some of it like mentioning H.G. Wells may sound a bit generic, but there is a point to this, that this was a subject that highly interested Yockey. In the case of Wells, I only mention it because it was found in his suitcase alongside the occult material that the FBI took at the time of his suicide. StrongALPHA ( talk) 18:51, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
in his work Imperium he states there have been 5 Millenium of history. Implying belief in a 5,000 or so year old Earth. 2600:1702:CC7:1A20:7DB7:6AFE:EBD0:A75F ( talk) 03:04, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
To say that Yockey called for a right wing pan European empire would be correct but to say it would be neo-nazi is abnormal given how he believed that race was more so cultured based not geneticly and saying it was dedicated to hitler is strange given although he said it was dedicated to the hero of world war 2. the ideologies of Hitler and Yockey were different i.e according to Yockey a Jewish person could become a westener if he renounced his Jewish beliefs and assimilated to westerner culture Waterdrinker11 ( talk) 19:55, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
"called for a transnational, neo-Nazi European Empire"[1] and it is
"dedicated to 'the hero of the Second World War' (Adolf Hitler)".[2] Llll5032 ( talk) 17:46, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
References
...Imperium, which called for a transnational, neo-Nazi European Empire...
As is, it says in the early life section that Yockey's biographer Kevin Coogan "wrote that Yockey's associate James Madole once claimed Yockey was one-quarter Jewish, but there is no evidence for this". The latter part is true, there is no evidence for this. Less than 5 minutes after editing it, it was reverted saying that I "missed the point" as "james madole was someone close to yockey" As to this, it is important to understand the context in which it is stated in Coogan's biography. He states that Madole wrote in passing that Yockey was "quarter-Jewish" in an article, however it is vital to mention the fact that the article (which, by the way, I cannot find a source of besides reference to it in the book) was an attempt to defend a friend of his, Dan Burros (who was also heavily inspired by Yockey) who was a vicious anti-semite after Burros commited suicide after being exposed for being Jewish himself. Given the context that this was something Madole only mentioned in passing to try to defend a friend of his who now had his only legacy among anti-semites, this does not hold weight at all, and it holds even lesser weight when you consider Madole did not even know Yockey by his real name, but rather a fake identity (it is possible Yockey could have lied about being quarter-Jewish, but I doubt this) so Madole was not exactly an expert when it came to details of Yockey's life. But that's not all. Coogan tries to claim that he cannot "confirm nor deny" that Yockey's grandfather was Jewish as his grandfather was actually.. not his grandfather? Coogan then tries to back this up by stating that Yockey's putative grandfather, the German-born Valentin Yocky/Jacky could not have been Yockey's grandfather because the old man's gravestone says he died in 1883, while Yockey's dad wasn't born until 1886. However, censuses, draft registrations, and consular records mostly state that Yockey's father Louis was born in May 1883. I think that pretty much dispels Coogan's point, especially considering one of the few things Coogan consistantly got wrong in his biography were details of Yockey's family, but as to not gloss over any detail I will bring up the other part Coogan tried to use as an argument for this. He states: "Alice told the FBI that 'her nephew is very pro-German, and she is of the opinion that this pro-German attitude was brought about by the influence Yockey's grandfather, who was a German, had on Yockey.' Since Francis clearly knew his grandfather, he could not have been Valentine Yockey". This vague statement teaches us very little about Yockey, and it does not show that Yockey's grandfather was some mystery man instead of what it says on all Government documents, it could simply mean that Yockey was pro-German due to the fact that his grandfather was German, or that his grandfather inspired him. Additionally, if his grandfather were Jewish, don't you think his aunt would think to mention this to the FBI who was investigating his political activities which they knew included open anti-semitic stances?
Given everything I have written, I do not believe this should be written in the article any more than Yockey being a unicorn, as there is there is "no evidence for this" either. If you do plan on reverting me again, I do hope you explain as to why before doing so. 67.254.242.193 ( talk) 02:02, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
a mere IP address"... Wow, that's not a good approach. If you have a reason to think the IP is acting in bad faith, spit it out, otherwise don't cast aspersions.
Llll5032, What evidence does Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke have - to justify his [questionable] claim that Yockey was dedicating to Hitler, his book "Imperium"? ... Regards, DLMcN ( talk) 08:29, 13 May 2024 (UTC) [User:DLMcN|DLMcN]] ( talk) 08:19, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
Yockey wrote Imperium under the pseudonym Ulick Varange, which to him symbolized the meeting of Ireland-with-Russia. The writer was savvy enough not to mention the names Hitler or National Socialism in the book at all, instead relying on code terms like “Prussian Socialism” and “the European Revolution of 1933” to get his neofascist message across. Imperium’s basic message at the time was to assure hardcore fascists across the globe that their Nazi dreams were not in vain, that fascism truly did represent the realization of the Spirit of the Age, and that “the day” would come again, if fascists would avoid petty-statism in pursuit of the Imperium.