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Dispute title Founding Father

@ User:Randy Kryn: Francis Dana is considered a Founding Father by whom? Since you didn't add a citation, we have no way of telling. So please apply one so we can discuss what your source is and then what other sources have to say. Allreet ( talk) 09:03, 23 February 2022 (UTC) reply

Removed "Founding Fathers" title as unsourced. Articles of Confederation not recognized as a "founding document" by either National Archives or U.S. Congress. Also removed Dispute template. Allreet ( talk) 10:07, 2 March 2022 (UTC) reply
@ User:Randy Kryn reverted removal of unsourced material, but has yet to respond to the above request for a source. Allreet ( talk) 16:38, 2 March 2022 (UTC) reply
@ User:Randy Kryn: I have provided sourced text qualifying Dana's alleged status as a founding father, presumably for having signed the Articles of Confederation. Perhaps he is, but we have no way of knowing who shares this view. Meanwhile, the sources I referenced do not consider the Articles a founding document. My belief, based on sources, is that this is a minority view. Perhaps someday the Articles will be more widely accepted in this regard. Meanwhile, it is my understanding that Wikipedia follows such trends; it does not lead them. Allreet ( talk) 22:23, 4 March 2022 (UTC) reply
Why does it follow that one has to sign one of the founding documents to be a "founding father." He was a leader of the US at its inception. His seat in the Continental Congress and signing of the Articles of Confederation confirms as much. How is he not a founding father? Jasonant ( talk) 05:45, 13 June 2022 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Dispute title Founding Father

@ User:Randy Kryn: Francis Dana is considered a Founding Father by whom? Since you didn't add a citation, we have no way of telling. So please apply one so we can discuss what your source is and then what other sources have to say. Allreet ( talk) 09:03, 23 February 2022 (UTC) reply

Removed "Founding Fathers" title as unsourced. Articles of Confederation not recognized as a "founding document" by either National Archives or U.S. Congress. Also removed Dispute template. Allreet ( talk) 10:07, 2 March 2022 (UTC) reply
@ User:Randy Kryn reverted removal of unsourced material, but has yet to respond to the above request for a source. Allreet ( talk) 16:38, 2 March 2022 (UTC) reply
@ User:Randy Kryn: I have provided sourced text qualifying Dana's alleged status as a founding father, presumably for having signed the Articles of Confederation. Perhaps he is, but we have no way of knowing who shares this view. Meanwhile, the sources I referenced do not consider the Articles a founding document. My belief, based on sources, is that this is a minority view. Perhaps someday the Articles will be more widely accepted in this regard. Meanwhile, it is my understanding that Wikipedia follows such trends; it does not lead them. Allreet ( talk) 22:23, 4 March 2022 (UTC) reply
Why does it follow that one has to sign one of the founding documents to be a "founding father." He was a leader of the US at its inception. His seat in the Continental Congress and signing of the Articles of Confederation confirms as much. How is he not a founding father? Jasonant ( talk) 05:45, 13 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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