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[1] has "On Prairial 7 (26th of April 1797) Babeuf and Darth were condemned to death; some of the prisoners, including Buonarroti, were exiled; the rest, including Vadier and his fellow-conventionals, were acquitted. Drouet had succeeded in making his escape, according to Barras, with the connivance of the Directory. Babeuf and Darth were executed at Vendme on Prairial 8 (1797)." This would give a death date of April 27. However, it looks like they were off by a month in their interpretation of the French Republican calendar and May 27, the date inserted by User:Arcturus, is correct. -- Jmabel | Talk 02:01, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)
This article seems incorrect: it tells about a bloodthirsty François-Noël Babeuf, which doesn't fit well with the texts written by him on www.marxists.org. He says to the men in power: "You will be overwhelmed, and afterwards ask yourselves: What!". If he really was that bloodthirsty, how could they ask themselves questions after being deposed? I propose we rewrite it slowly according to historical sources, so that the material from Encyclopedia Britannica is removed. Material from other encyclopediae may be used as an initial draft, but because of their political bias and secondary source character, primary historical research is to be preferred. Said: Rursus ☻ 15:57, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Was he religious or not? 71.253.97.230 ( talk) 05:57, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
term Socialist appears in 1738, in the book: Scotch Presbyterian eloquence display'd By Gilbert Crokatt, John Monroe, page 69. any objection to me correcting this error? Darkstar1st ( talk) 05:19, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
I've deleted the Communist sidebar. Babeuf was deeply concerned with equality; this may be the most significant aspect of his life; nevertheless neither the Communist Party, nor even the International Working Men's Association, existed during his lifetime. He is a figure of the French Revolution, which preceded Communism or even pre-Marxist, Utopian Socialism. Putting a big hammer and sickle on his page is deeply misleading in this sense. It might be worthwhile considering whether he should be removed from the Category, figures of the French Communist Party. -
Darouet (
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18:32, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
I've made a number of edits using the biography written by Ernest Belfort Bax and also Wikipedia's French language article. Neither are terrible sources, but modern scholarship might be helpful for a number of reasons. The French Wikipedia article, like this one in English, offers very few sources. Bax's work is fascinating but his perspective is more or less the opposite of that of the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica, for reasons obvious from a historiographical perspective. I don't have time at this moment to hit the library and find more modern sources, but if you know of them and are willing to contribute, please do so! - Darouet ( talk) 18:56, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
I've read it claimed by some that Philippe Buonarroti deliberately misrepresented Babeuf in his books about him, and distorted how he's viewed to this day. The main claim comes down to Philippe Buonarroti wanting to make Babeuf like himself a follower or Robespeirre, while he was really an ally of the enemies of Robespierre like Bonneville and Brisiot. But I'm unsure about the reliability of such claims. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.29.233.157 ( talk) 00:09, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
No mention of Babeufism? SemperBlotto ( talk) 15:55, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
He was a openly advocating for a complete revolution and the complete changes to social structures, that isn't the case with "utopian socialists" (thats the origin of the term, as marxists thought that a revoluton was required for socialism and communism) the label doesn't fit him The basque savior ( talk) 18:59, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
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[1] has "On Prairial 7 (26th of April 1797) Babeuf and Darth were condemned to death; some of the prisoners, including Buonarroti, were exiled; the rest, including Vadier and his fellow-conventionals, were acquitted. Drouet had succeeded in making his escape, according to Barras, with the connivance of the Directory. Babeuf and Darth were executed at Vendme on Prairial 8 (1797)." This would give a death date of April 27. However, it looks like they were off by a month in their interpretation of the French Republican calendar and May 27, the date inserted by User:Arcturus, is correct. -- Jmabel | Talk 02:01, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)
This article seems incorrect: it tells about a bloodthirsty François-Noël Babeuf, which doesn't fit well with the texts written by him on www.marxists.org. He says to the men in power: "You will be overwhelmed, and afterwards ask yourselves: What!". If he really was that bloodthirsty, how could they ask themselves questions after being deposed? I propose we rewrite it slowly according to historical sources, so that the material from Encyclopedia Britannica is removed. Material from other encyclopediae may be used as an initial draft, but because of their political bias and secondary source character, primary historical research is to be preferred. Said: Rursus ☻ 15:57, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Was he religious or not? 71.253.97.230 ( talk) 05:57, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
term Socialist appears in 1738, in the book: Scotch Presbyterian eloquence display'd By Gilbert Crokatt, John Monroe, page 69. any objection to me correcting this error? Darkstar1st ( talk) 05:19, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
I've deleted the Communist sidebar. Babeuf was deeply concerned with equality; this may be the most significant aspect of his life; nevertheless neither the Communist Party, nor even the International Working Men's Association, existed during his lifetime. He is a figure of the French Revolution, which preceded Communism or even pre-Marxist, Utopian Socialism. Putting a big hammer and sickle on his page is deeply misleading in this sense. It might be worthwhile considering whether he should be removed from the Category, figures of the French Communist Party. -
Darouet (
talk)
18:32, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
I've made a number of edits using the biography written by Ernest Belfort Bax and also Wikipedia's French language article. Neither are terrible sources, but modern scholarship might be helpful for a number of reasons. The French Wikipedia article, like this one in English, offers very few sources. Bax's work is fascinating but his perspective is more or less the opposite of that of the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica, for reasons obvious from a historiographical perspective. I don't have time at this moment to hit the library and find more modern sources, but if you know of them and are willing to contribute, please do so! - Darouet ( talk) 18:56, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
I've read it claimed by some that Philippe Buonarroti deliberately misrepresented Babeuf in his books about him, and distorted how he's viewed to this day. The main claim comes down to Philippe Buonarroti wanting to make Babeuf like himself a follower or Robespeirre, while he was really an ally of the enemies of Robespierre like Bonneville and Brisiot. But I'm unsure about the reliability of such claims. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.29.233.157 ( talk) 00:09, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
No mention of Babeufism? SemperBlotto ( talk) 15:55, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
He was a openly advocating for a complete revolution and the complete changes to social structures, that isn't the case with "utopian socialists" (thats the origin of the term, as marxists thought that a revoluton was required for socialism and communism) the label doesn't fit him The basque savior ( talk) 18:59, 30 November 2023 (UTC)