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I just finished reading the original short story in "Isaac Asimov Presents the Great SF Stories 4", and it definitely does not end this way: "But the Mayor of Terminus City, Salvor Hardin, perceives the threat and quickly finds a solution; to play the four kingdoms off each other. Hardin's plan is a success and then the image of Seldon appears in the "Time Vault", where he acknowledges that the "Seldon Crisis" was averted. Seldon makes it clear that the choice made was the intended one and that the Encyclopedia was just a distraction to further the overall plan." In the short story I read (which was presumably the story as it was originally first published, since Asimov chose it and wrote a preface to it), Hardin's plan is never revealed, the crisis is never averted, and the whole thing ends on a perfect cliffhanger. The Seldon hologram doesn't say they made the correct choice, since there had as yet been no choice made; he simply tells them the encyclopedia was a sham, and details that there are going to be a series of problems, etc. Maybe it's a different ending as published in this book, I dunno. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.227.77.90 ( talk) 17:10, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
"He and his team are exiled to Terminus, a small planet on the periphery of the galaxy, to work on the encyclopedia."
My memory might be faulty (with my advanced age, of course) but I do believe Seldon never left Trantor. →Raul654 05:31, Feb 18, 2004 (UTC)
He was sentenced to exile by Chen... in fact the sentence was phrased in terms of Hari first and the project second. However, later events might have led to a compromise, being that Hari was old and felt himself near death, and that he was willing to cut all ties with the project, stop predicting ruin, etcetera once the exile had begun. 66.207.110.2 11:49, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
I picked up my copy the other day and started to wonder, what if something like that happened with wiki? we find that our ultimate goal isn't to create the perfect encyclopedia, but to let the universe take advantage of us for another more worthy goal..? —Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]])
I removed this external link from the Article page because it is broken
TheLimbicOne 18:20, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
In 'The Encyclopedists,' details as to Hardin's plans for dealing with the four kingdoms are not mentioned directly. The solution to the puzzle was only given in the opening of 'The Mayors.' 66.207.110.2 11:49, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
F.E.1 or the Great Sack? I would think it should be the Great Sack, but it seems that First Foundationers think otherwise. Hillgentleman 03:07, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
yeah, that bothered me throughout the whole series over and over again. it should be the "1500 years plan"! but since asimov himself continued to set the starting point at F.E.1 ever after, whe should probably write this of as either asimov's blunder in a single chapter's dialogue, or, better even, as "Errors made by characters (possibly deliberate errors by the author)", as IMDB puts it. ^^
Top importance novel? Come on! I liked it too, but... It's top importance among science fiction novels, but not within literature or culture. It didn't trascend the genre like 1984. I'll change it to high.-- Rataube 14:23, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
This article consists mostly of a painfully long and sentimental series of plot summaries. Someone who has recently read the trilogy--and who also has a working knowlege of English--should re-write this mess.
Agreed. A relative of mine I will not mention has, but they will probably not be interested in doing so.
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 20:49, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
I just read through the book so I could probably put these up, not sure If I can find the time though Starlook124 ( talk) 13:39, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
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I would fix it myself if I knew how... I believe this might be the correct link? Can you fix it? 193.167.228.180 ( talk) 08:14, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
Would it be worth adding a brief summary of the planets involved and how they relate to one another? Gradualism ( talk) 20:32, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
Hey, I'm having trouble adding the redirect for the TV series. Can anybody here help me? Pikiwedia98461 ( talk) 19:15, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
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I just finished reading the original short story in "Isaac Asimov Presents the Great SF Stories 4", and it definitely does not end this way: "But the Mayor of Terminus City, Salvor Hardin, perceives the threat and quickly finds a solution; to play the four kingdoms off each other. Hardin's plan is a success and then the image of Seldon appears in the "Time Vault", where he acknowledges that the "Seldon Crisis" was averted. Seldon makes it clear that the choice made was the intended one and that the Encyclopedia was just a distraction to further the overall plan." In the short story I read (which was presumably the story as it was originally first published, since Asimov chose it and wrote a preface to it), Hardin's plan is never revealed, the crisis is never averted, and the whole thing ends on a perfect cliffhanger. The Seldon hologram doesn't say they made the correct choice, since there had as yet been no choice made; he simply tells them the encyclopedia was a sham, and details that there are going to be a series of problems, etc. Maybe it's a different ending as published in this book, I dunno. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.227.77.90 ( talk) 17:10, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
"He and his team are exiled to Terminus, a small planet on the periphery of the galaxy, to work on the encyclopedia."
My memory might be faulty (with my advanced age, of course) but I do believe Seldon never left Trantor. →Raul654 05:31, Feb 18, 2004 (UTC)
He was sentenced to exile by Chen... in fact the sentence was phrased in terms of Hari first and the project second. However, later events might have led to a compromise, being that Hari was old and felt himself near death, and that he was willing to cut all ties with the project, stop predicting ruin, etcetera once the exile had begun. 66.207.110.2 11:49, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
I picked up my copy the other day and started to wonder, what if something like that happened with wiki? we find that our ultimate goal isn't to create the perfect encyclopedia, but to let the universe take advantage of us for another more worthy goal..? —Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]])
I removed this external link from the Article page because it is broken
TheLimbicOne 18:20, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
In 'The Encyclopedists,' details as to Hardin's plans for dealing with the four kingdoms are not mentioned directly. The solution to the puzzle was only given in the opening of 'The Mayors.' 66.207.110.2 11:49, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
F.E.1 or the Great Sack? I would think it should be the Great Sack, but it seems that First Foundationers think otherwise. Hillgentleman 03:07, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
yeah, that bothered me throughout the whole series over and over again. it should be the "1500 years plan"! but since asimov himself continued to set the starting point at F.E.1 ever after, whe should probably write this of as either asimov's blunder in a single chapter's dialogue, or, better even, as "Errors made by characters (possibly deliberate errors by the author)", as IMDB puts it. ^^
Top importance novel? Come on! I liked it too, but... It's top importance among science fiction novels, but not within literature or culture. It didn't trascend the genre like 1984. I'll change it to high.-- Rataube 14:23, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
This article consists mostly of a painfully long and sentimental series of plot summaries. Someone who has recently read the trilogy--and who also has a working knowlege of English--should re-write this mess.
Agreed. A relative of mine I will not mention has, but they will probably not be interested in doing so.
Nw15062 ( talk) 18:50, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 20:49, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
I just read through the book so I could probably put these up, not sure If I can find the time though Starlook124 ( talk) 13:39, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
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I would fix it myself if I knew how... I believe this might be the correct link? Can you fix it? 193.167.228.180 ( talk) 08:14, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
Would it be worth adding a brief summary of the planets involved and how they relate to one another? Gradualism ( talk) 20:32, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
Hey, I'm having trouble adding the redirect for the TV series. Can anybody here help me? Pikiwedia98461 ( talk) 19:15, 26 October 2021 (UTC)