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The article on Harvard University says that the forward pass was invented by " Yale coach Walter Camp", but this article says "Eddie Cochem, the Saint Louis University coach, was the first to use the forward pass in 1906". Which is it? -- timc talk 20:30, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Edited out "except in the Rugby World Cup 2007 quarterfinal, France vs New Zealand" from the section on forward pass. Seems to me to be vandalism based on the controversy over the recent France v New Zealand rugby game. 130.160.222.169 15:19, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Is there a better photograph than that one? In particular, why is the QB in black when everyone else is in either orange or white? Samer ( talk) 14:49, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
Also: is there a better photo comparing an old football to a more modern one? It looks like the infamous Spanish Ecco Homo fresco, post-restoration... 97.113.62.36 ( talk) 00:49, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
This article reads like an article primarily for American football yet forward passes are also linked to rugby and are banned. The rugby section of this article needs to be largely improved —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.185.220.58 ( talk • contribs) 03:57, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
That's not the issue at all, there's a lot of in depth information about forward passes, the simple fact however is the lack of understanding of the rules of rugby by most Americans. Furthermore I don't recall it being called anything more than a pass in most American football matches. This article is dominated inherently by a pass that isn't even named as such in commentary. I understand the action is that of a forward pass, but even then it's entirely different from a rugby forward pass. I would go as far as to say that in rugby it is an entirely different concept. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.211.242.221 ( talk) 00:42, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
The term forward pass is used in "common vernacular" at least across all Rugby League playing nations. The term forward pass is also defined within the rules of the governing body at least of Australia; I have not investigated the rules for other nations however given that other nations play the same game we can reasonably consider they are using the same rules. The forward pass is well defined within the rules and "common vernacular" of Rugby League at least, I do not pretend to be an expert with regards to rugby union. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.211.242.221 ( talk) 01:34, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
I found this (from which I removed "tight" because a split end is also a lineman AND eligible receiver): "Today, the only linemen who can receive a forward pass are the ends and, if they report as eligible prior to the snap, the offensive tackle." But that leaves me confused about this reference to the offensive tackle. What I know about tackle-eligible play is that the formation shifted so that an offensive tackle ended up at one end of the line (and unless he reported as stated, this would not be legal). Should this be further reworded to refer to the players at the ends of the line (which would occasionally include the eligible tackle I referred to)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.63.16.82 ( talk) 20:28, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
The introduction to the article says "In several forms of football a forward pass is when the ball is thrown in the direction that the offensive team is trying to move, towards the defensive team's goal line." Based on that, is there any reason to have a section on the forward pass in ice hockey within this article? — C.Fred ( talk) 14:02, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
In 1907 Vanderbilt won the south thanks to a double pass play, Vaughn Blake to Bob Blake to Stein Stone. Grantland Rice said most exciting thing he ever saw. I have to ask, is there an earlier trick-pass play? Cake ( talk) 07:03, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
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The article on Harvard University says that the forward pass was invented by " Yale coach Walter Camp", but this article says "Eddie Cochem, the Saint Louis University coach, was the first to use the forward pass in 1906". Which is it? -- timc talk 20:30, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Edited out "except in the Rugby World Cup 2007 quarterfinal, France vs New Zealand" from the section on forward pass. Seems to me to be vandalism based on the controversy over the recent France v New Zealand rugby game. 130.160.222.169 15:19, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Is there a better photograph than that one? In particular, why is the QB in black when everyone else is in either orange or white? Samer ( talk) 14:49, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
Also: is there a better photo comparing an old football to a more modern one? It looks like the infamous Spanish Ecco Homo fresco, post-restoration... 97.113.62.36 ( talk) 00:49, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
This article reads like an article primarily for American football yet forward passes are also linked to rugby and are banned. The rugby section of this article needs to be largely improved —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.185.220.58 ( talk • contribs) 03:57, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
That's not the issue at all, there's a lot of in depth information about forward passes, the simple fact however is the lack of understanding of the rules of rugby by most Americans. Furthermore I don't recall it being called anything more than a pass in most American football matches. This article is dominated inherently by a pass that isn't even named as such in commentary. I understand the action is that of a forward pass, but even then it's entirely different from a rugby forward pass. I would go as far as to say that in rugby it is an entirely different concept. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.211.242.221 ( talk) 00:42, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
The term forward pass is used in "common vernacular" at least across all Rugby League playing nations. The term forward pass is also defined within the rules of the governing body at least of Australia; I have not investigated the rules for other nations however given that other nations play the same game we can reasonably consider they are using the same rules. The forward pass is well defined within the rules and "common vernacular" of Rugby League at least, I do not pretend to be an expert with regards to rugby union. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.211.242.221 ( talk) 01:34, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
I found this (from which I removed "tight" because a split end is also a lineman AND eligible receiver): "Today, the only linemen who can receive a forward pass are the ends and, if they report as eligible prior to the snap, the offensive tackle." But that leaves me confused about this reference to the offensive tackle. What I know about tackle-eligible play is that the formation shifted so that an offensive tackle ended up at one end of the line (and unless he reported as stated, this would not be legal). Should this be further reworded to refer to the players at the ends of the line (which would occasionally include the eligible tackle I referred to)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.63.16.82 ( talk) 20:28, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
The introduction to the article says "In several forms of football a forward pass is when the ball is thrown in the direction that the offensive team is trying to move, towards the defensive team's goal line." Based on that, is there any reason to have a section on the forward pass in ice hockey within this article? — C.Fred ( talk) 14:02, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
In 1907 Vanderbilt won the south thanks to a double pass play, Vaughn Blake to Bob Blake to Stein Stone. Grantland Rice said most exciting thing he ever saw. I have to ask, is there an earlier trick-pass play? Cake ( talk) 07:03, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
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