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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by 97198 ( talk09:21, 7 May 2020 (UTC) reply

  • ... that although in ruins, the Forty Saints Monastery in Albania still retains some religious importance for the local Greek Orthodox population? Source: The Forty Saints Monastery Rediscovered p. 42: Although much of the superstructure of the basilica has long been demolished, pilgrims continue to place flowers in discrete niches within the shattered building. As a place it still possesses an importance for the Greek orthodox communities here.

5x expanded by Alexikoua ( talk). Self-nominated at 15:06, 4 March 2020 (UTC). reply

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation

QPQ: Unknown
Overall: Almost ready. QPQ is not done. Last sentence of the first paragraph of History is missing an inline citation. Ergo Sum 20:04, 10 March 2020 (UTC) reply

Reviewed: Llerena_Friend
Thanks for reviewing this.I've added the missing citation. Alexikoua ( talk) 19:36, 13 March 2020 (UTC) reply
Good to go. Ergo Sum 17:53, 14 March 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Hi, I came by to promote this, but there is substantial copying from several sources. Here is just a sample from Bowden:
  • Source: Externally it was a rectangular building with a single apse, exo-narthex, eso-narthex and two small external towers. The interior was articulated by six apsidal chambers
  • Article: The main church was a rectangular building with a single apse, exo-narthex, eso-narthex and two small external towers. The interior was articulated by six apsidal chambers.
  • Source: The pilasters that divide the chambers demonstrate that it was probably roofed with a series of domes and half domes. The western half of the building covers a substantial crypt
  • Article: The pilasters that divide the chambers demonstrate that it was probably roofed with domes and half domes. The western half of the building covers a substantial crypt.
  • Source: At least one of these chambers contains traces of what appears obelate-antique paintings. Two haloed figures holding open books are visible on one wall, while remains of a painted arcade can be seen on another.
  • Article: At least one of these chambers contains traces of what appears obelate-antique paintings. Two haloed figures holding open books are visible on a wall while remains of a painted arcade can be seen on another one.
  • The nominator must re-check and rewrite all the source material in his own words. Yoninah ( talk) 21:44, 15 March 2020 (UTC) reply
  • @ Ergo Sum: Actually, Earwig's is still down. I just looked up the sources and searched for the language in the article. That's why I suggested to the nominator that he check every single source he used. I saw copying in at least two references. Yoninah ( talk) 00:38, 16 March 2020 (UTC) reply
  • I was asked to review the paraphrasing issues here, and can confirm that they persist. Compare for example "A recent survey reveals the changing architecture of the basilica, its crypts and decoration" with "A new survey reveals the changing architecture of the great church, its crypts, and painted decoration". Nikkimaria ( talk) 19:04, 11 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Some remaining issues have been fixed now. Alexikoua ( talk) 18:48, 24 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Still seeing some minor close paraphrasing persisting - for example "it still possesses religious importance for the local Greek Orthodox population" vs "it still possesses an importance for the Greek Orthodox communities". Not so extensive as to require tagging at this point though. Nikkimaria ( talk) 02:26, 29 April 2020 (UTC) reply
I have copy edited the hook part as noticed & additional minor issues in the main body of the article. Double checked with various plagiarism checkers, no issues found [ [1]]. Alexikoua ( talk) 20:20, 29 April 2020 (UTC) reply

It seems that sourcing issues have been addressed above. All that leaves is QPQ. Alexikoua Can you please link to the QPQ you completed? Ergo Sum 01:53, 3 May 2020 (UTC) reply

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by 97198 ( talk09:21, 7 May 2020 (UTC) reply

  • ... that although in ruins, the Forty Saints Monastery in Albania still retains some religious importance for the local Greek Orthodox population? Source: The Forty Saints Monastery Rediscovered p. 42: Although much of the superstructure of the basilica has long been demolished, pilgrims continue to place flowers in discrete niches within the shattered building. As a place it still possesses an importance for the Greek orthodox communities here.

5x expanded by Alexikoua ( talk). Self-nominated at 15:06, 4 March 2020 (UTC). reply

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation

QPQ: Unknown
Overall: Almost ready. QPQ is not done. Last sentence of the first paragraph of History is missing an inline citation. Ergo Sum 20:04, 10 March 2020 (UTC) reply

Reviewed: Llerena_Friend
Thanks for reviewing this.I've added the missing citation. Alexikoua ( talk) 19:36, 13 March 2020 (UTC) reply
Good to go. Ergo Sum 17:53, 14 March 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Hi, I came by to promote this, but there is substantial copying from several sources. Here is just a sample from Bowden:
  • Source: Externally it was a rectangular building with a single apse, exo-narthex, eso-narthex and two small external towers. The interior was articulated by six apsidal chambers
  • Article: The main church was a rectangular building with a single apse, exo-narthex, eso-narthex and two small external towers. The interior was articulated by six apsidal chambers.
  • Source: The pilasters that divide the chambers demonstrate that it was probably roofed with a series of domes and half domes. The western half of the building covers a substantial crypt
  • Article: The pilasters that divide the chambers demonstrate that it was probably roofed with domes and half domes. The western half of the building covers a substantial crypt.
  • Source: At least one of these chambers contains traces of what appears obelate-antique paintings. Two haloed figures holding open books are visible on one wall, while remains of a painted arcade can be seen on another.
  • Article: At least one of these chambers contains traces of what appears obelate-antique paintings. Two haloed figures holding open books are visible on a wall while remains of a painted arcade can be seen on another one.
  • The nominator must re-check and rewrite all the source material in his own words. Yoninah ( talk) 21:44, 15 March 2020 (UTC) reply
  • @ Ergo Sum: Actually, Earwig's is still down. I just looked up the sources and searched for the language in the article. That's why I suggested to the nominator that he check every single source he used. I saw copying in at least two references. Yoninah ( talk) 00:38, 16 March 2020 (UTC) reply
  • I was asked to review the paraphrasing issues here, and can confirm that they persist. Compare for example "A recent survey reveals the changing architecture of the basilica, its crypts and decoration" with "A new survey reveals the changing architecture of the great church, its crypts, and painted decoration". Nikkimaria ( talk) 19:04, 11 April 2020 (UTC) reply
Some remaining issues have been fixed now. Alexikoua ( talk) 18:48, 24 April 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Still seeing some minor close paraphrasing persisting - for example "it still possesses religious importance for the local Greek Orthodox population" vs "it still possesses an importance for the Greek Orthodox communities". Not so extensive as to require tagging at this point though. Nikkimaria ( talk) 02:26, 29 April 2020 (UTC) reply
I have copy edited the hook part as noticed & additional minor issues in the main body of the article. Double checked with various plagiarism checkers, no issues found [ [1]]. Alexikoua ( talk) 20:20, 29 April 2020 (UTC) reply

It seems that sourcing issues have been addressed above. All that leaves is QPQ. Alexikoua Can you please link to the QPQ you completed? Ergo Sum 01:53, 3 May 2020 (UTC) reply


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