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The airport is not listed as João Paulo II anywhere.
The airport's own website calls itself simply Ponta Delgada, and has no mention of João Paulo.
Template:Regions of Portugal: statistical (NUTS3) subregions and intercommunal entities are confused; they are not the same in all regions, and should be sublisted separately in each region: intermunicipal entities are sometimes larger and split by subregions (e.g. the Metropolitan Area of Lisbon has two subregions), some intercommunal entities are containing only parts of subregions. All subregions should be listed explicitly and not assume they are only intermunicipal entities (which accessorily are not statistic subdivisions but real administrative entities, so they should be listed below, probably using a smaller font: we can safely eliminate the subgrouping by type of intermunicipal entity from this box).
So, not the same fort. They are infront of each other. See
Google Maps' view, there is one at the island, another at the shore, just south of the island. Also I'll add the oficial national monuments webpages of each at the article.
[1] and
[2], respectively (in Portuguese).
Given the info in those pages
Fort of Pessegueiro Island should probably be
Fort at Pessegueiro Island, it could be merged into the island's article. Or even all together, at Pessegueiro Island?, as the forts, the island and a smaller rock were all one single set of fortifications. But that might be confusing...?
Thanks for setting me straight there; you're quite right that the initial merge proposal is not appropriate, as I had missed the fact that there are two nearby ports, one on the island and one on the mainland. I also note that the one on the island is also referred to as Fort of Santo Alberto in the
Fort of Pessegueiro article. However, given that there the island fort article is likely to remain small, and that the ruins of the fort are the main feature of the island, I support your suggestion of merging
Fort of Pessegueiro Island to
Pessegueiro Island, but keeping
Fort of Pessegueiro separate. Adding the national monuments links would be great!
Klbrain (
talk)
07:28, 28 June 2021 (UTC)reply
This redirect is within the scope of WikiProject Portugal, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Portugal on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PortugalWikipedia:WikiProject PortugalTemplate:WikiProject PortugalPortugal articles
Find correct name
The airport is not listed as João Paulo II anywhere.
The airport's own website calls itself simply Ponta Delgada, and has no mention of João Paulo.
Template:Regions of Portugal: statistical (NUTS3) subregions and intercommunal entities are confused; they are not the same in all regions, and should be sublisted separately in each region: intermunicipal entities are sometimes larger and split by subregions (e.g. the Metropolitan Area of Lisbon has two subregions), some intercommunal entities are containing only parts of subregions. All subregions should be listed explicitly and not assume they are only intermunicipal entities (which accessorily are not statistic subdivisions but real administrative entities, so they should be listed below, probably using a smaller font: we can safely eliminate the subgrouping by type of intermunicipal entity from this box).
So, not the same fort. They are infront of each other. See
Google Maps' view, there is one at the island, another at the shore, just south of the island. Also I'll add the oficial national monuments webpages of each at the article.
[1] and
[2], respectively (in Portuguese).
Given the info in those pages
Fort of Pessegueiro Island should probably be
Fort at Pessegueiro Island, it could be merged into the island's article. Or even all together, at Pessegueiro Island?, as the forts, the island and a smaller rock were all one single set of fortifications. But that might be confusing...?
Thanks for setting me straight there; you're quite right that the initial merge proposal is not appropriate, as I had missed the fact that there are two nearby ports, one on the island and one on the mainland. I also note that the one on the island is also referred to as Fort of Santo Alberto in the
Fort of Pessegueiro article. However, given that there the island fort article is likely to remain small, and that the ruins of the fort are the main feature of the island, I support your suggestion of merging
Fort of Pessegueiro Island to
Pessegueiro Island, but keeping
Fort of Pessegueiro separate. Adding the national monuments links would be great!
Klbrain (
talk)
07:28, 28 June 2021 (UTC)reply