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There. Now as I've mentioned in connection with this article before and on more than one talk page, this one editor keeps sticking in this information about Spear and Busch, in violation of WP:UNDUE. I've stated before that this is trivial in the scope of the shipyard's history. Without prejudice to the accuracy of these somewhat turgid allegations, they have little enough to do with this article. Fore River had, during its history, many managers and superintendents. No doubt many of them had their own way of doing things, different from those who came before and after. No doubt some inflated their own accomplishments more than others, and no doubt some indulged in more chicanery than others. Why this editor has such a mad on for the manager of the shipyard over a century ago is not my place to attempt to understand, but the fact is that he declines to list any other manager or superintendent or recount any of their accomplishments. That violates WP:UNDUE. As far as bias goes, this editor is the one using harsh and insulting terms for these gentlemen, certainly no evidence of objectivity, and the "information" he tries to put in involve little more than vague weasel words alleging that they were corrupt in some undefined way.
Now if this editor wishes to create and maintain articles for these people he believes it so vital to smear, or to push reliably sourced information into the Electric Boat article, I shan't stop him. Ravenswing 04:02, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
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There. Now as I've mentioned in connection with this article before and on more than one talk page, this one editor keeps sticking in this information about Spear and Busch, in violation of WP:UNDUE. I've stated before that this is trivial in the scope of the shipyard's history. Without prejudice to the accuracy of these somewhat turgid allegations, they have little enough to do with this article. Fore River had, during its history, many managers and superintendents. No doubt many of them had their own way of doing things, different from those who came before and after. No doubt some inflated their own accomplishments more than others, and no doubt some indulged in more chicanery than others. Why this editor has such a mad on for the manager of the shipyard over a century ago is not my place to attempt to understand, but the fact is that he declines to list any other manager or superintendent or recount any of their accomplishments. That violates WP:UNDUE. As far as bias goes, this editor is the one using harsh and insulting terms for these gentlemen, certainly no evidence of objectivity, and the "information" he tries to put in involve little more than vague weasel words alleging that they were corrupt in some undefined way.
Now if this editor wishes to create and maintain articles for these people he believes it so vital to smear, or to push reliably sourced information into the Electric Boat article, I shan't stop him. Ravenswing 04:02, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
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