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Hi All, I have ridden the old Fordson for many hours. The paragraphs I have added may be a bit non-encyclopedic, but it is s shame for younger people not to know an imtimate bit about the old tractor. Phil 20:25, September 8, 2005 (UTC)
"The Fordson tractor by the Ford Motor Company was the first agricultural tractor to be mass produced."
Is a misleading sentance. Fordson, although found by Henry Ford, was not an entity of the Ford Motor Company. The Fordson name was selected for two reasons. There was already a Ford Tractor Company in Minneapolis at the time, and the Ford Motor Company shareholders did not approve of tractor production. So Henry established an entirely new firm, Ford & Son Inc., which was shortened to Fordson. In 1930 Henry Ford built the 9N with the Ferguson three point hitch, which became the industry standard, making it the first Henry Ford built tractor with the Ford name, but Fordson remained a seperate firm being manufactured in England. In 1961 the Ford and Fordson merged, bringing an end to the Fordson name. Enigma 17:16, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
In English, it is not interested et i have dont understand English
Might the "Vapouriser" that fed the Fordson's engine been the same thing as a catalytic carburetor? It seems to fit, except for the timeline.
Otherwise I have no idea what that is, and it'd be nice to know. The "Vapouriser" link goes nowhere ATM, and the US spelling "vaporizer" isn't helpful either. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jhf ( talk • contribs) 22:17, 12 April 2007 (UTC).
Why does Fordson redirect to Fordson Tractors? they also made the Fordson Sussex Lorry which was used by the RAF in WWII, about time this redirect was rectified-- 86.27.184.216 ( talk) 17:07, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Update, 2015: This issue is handled better now. The article name is now "Fordson" and it covers both tractors and trucks. — ¾-10 16:16, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
Was this made by the same company?
Should it be referenced in the main article?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBjlSJf4274
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,213971.0/topicseen.html
The statement, "The early Fordson tractor engines were difficult to start. In hot weather it was a chore to start because the oil congealed on the cylinder walls and on the clutch plates." This seems a bit strange as oil congeals when it is cold not hot! Then in the next breath we learn that fires were started under the tractor to heat it up! Should the questioned statement be changed to reflect COLD weather conditions? -- Keith Ramsey ( talk) 22:39, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
According to the cited source:
"The most negative feature, however, was the Fordson's tendency to rear up in front and flip over backwards if sudden resistance on the drawbar created excessive torque in the transmission. The first Fordsons had the worm gear above the main drive pinion, but this caused too much heat fot the driver's seat. When the worm gear was placed below the big pinion, this increased the lift on the front wheels. One Indiana farmer believed such a dangerous machine should be banned by law. The Eastern Implement Dealer claimed Fordsons killed thirty-six drivers in 1918, while Pipp's Weekly insisted the tractor had snuffed out the lives of 136 men prior to August, 1922." - Wik, Reynold M. (1972), "V - Henry Ford's Tractors and Agriculture", Henry Ford and Grass-Roots America, Ann Arbor, MI, USA: University of Michigan Press, p. 95, ISBN 0-472-06193-3.
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The first sentence is not very clear and is open to misinterpretation. An editor assumed that the drawbar was placed too high and pulled the tractor over backward when the implement being pulled was stuck. However, that problem would have nothing to do with the transmission and would certainly not be caused by lowering a component on the tractor.
What apperars to be the case is that the increased torque from the engine to counter a powered implement being clogged caused a reaction in the transmission that lifted the front wheels off the ground and flipped the tractor over.
It is a pity the source was not more clear that the "sudden resistance on the drawbar" was on the driveshaft and not on the entire drawbar. The rest of the passage makes it clearer.
Sincerely, SamBlob ( talk) 12:07, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
I think a clarification is required related to the use of the names "Henry Ford & Son" and "Fordson", or maybe a rewrite of some sections is in its place. For instance, I can't quite get the following two pieces of information to add up:
Henry Ford & Son had used the cable address "Fordson" for years. In 1918, it was adopted as the brand name marked on the tractors.
and
Ford incorporated his private company, Henry Ford and Son Inc, to mass-produce the tractor on July 27, 1917
I mean, if Henry Ford and Son was incorporated in 1917, how could they have used the cable address "Fordson" for years by 1918? Or did "Henry Ford & Son" exist as an entity different from the company before that? If so, what was its exact nature?
Also, there appears to be some inconsistency related to the use of the word "and" and the ampersand character ("&"). Then again, perhaps "Henry Ford & Son" refers to something different from "Henry Ford and Son Inc" - see above. 81.191.184.223 ( talk) 21:36, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
Do they leave Boyle all the time underneath the motor 2001:8004:C84:FFA:C55:D724:BFCD:14BB ( talk) 07:46, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
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Hi All, I have ridden the old Fordson for many hours. The paragraphs I have added may be a bit non-encyclopedic, but it is s shame for younger people not to know an imtimate bit about the old tractor. Phil 20:25, September 8, 2005 (UTC)
"The Fordson tractor by the Ford Motor Company was the first agricultural tractor to be mass produced."
Is a misleading sentance. Fordson, although found by Henry Ford, was not an entity of the Ford Motor Company. The Fordson name was selected for two reasons. There was already a Ford Tractor Company in Minneapolis at the time, and the Ford Motor Company shareholders did not approve of tractor production. So Henry established an entirely new firm, Ford & Son Inc., which was shortened to Fordson. In 1930 Henry Ford built the 9N with the Ferguson three point hitch, which became the industry standard, making it the first Henry Ford built tractor with the Ford name, but Fordson remained a seperate firm being manufactured in England. In 1961 the Ford and Fordson merged, bringing an end to the Fordson name. Enigma 17:16, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
In English, it is not interested et i have dont understand English
Might the "Vapouriser" that fed the Fordson's engine been the same thing as a catalytic carburetor? It seems to fit, except for the timeline.
Otherwise I have no idea what that is, and it'd be nice to know. The "Vapouriser" link goes nowhere ATM, and the US spelling "vaporizer" isn't helpful either. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jhf ( talk • contribs) 22:17, 12 April 2007 (UTC).
Why does Fordson redirect to Fordson Tractors? they also made the Fordson Sussex Lorry which was used by the RAF in WWII, about time this redirect was rectified-- 86.27.184.216 ( talk) 17:07, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Update, 2015: This issue is handled better now. The article name is now "Fordson" and it covers both tractors and trucks. — ¾-10 16:16, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
Was this made by the same company?
Should it be referenced in the main article?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBjlSJf4274
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,213971.0/topicseen.html
The statement, "The early Fordson tractor engines were difficult to start. In hot weather it was a chore to start because the oil congealed on the cylinder walls and on the clutch plates." This seems a bit strange as oil congeals when it is cold not hot! Then in the next breath we learn that fires were started under the tractor to heat it up! Should the questioned statement be changed to reflect COLD weather conditions? -- Keith Ramsey ( talk) 22:39, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
According to the cited source:
"The most negative feature, however, was the Fordson's tendency to rear up in front and flip over backwards if sudden resistance on the drawbar created excessive torque in the transmission. The first Fordsons had the worm gear above the main drive pinion, but this caused too much heat fot the driver's seat. When the worm gear was placed below the big pinion, this increased the lift on the front wheels. One Indiana farmer believed such a dangerous machine should be banned by law. The Eastern Implement Dealer claimed Fordsons killed thirty-six drivers in 1918, while Pipp's Weekly insisted the tractor had snuffed out the lives of 136 men prior to August, 1922." - Wik, Reynold M. (1972), "V - Henry Ford's Tractors and Agriculture", Henry Ford and Grass-Roots America, Ann Arbor, MI, USA: University of Michigan Press, p. 95, ISBN 0-472-06193-3.
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The first sentence is not very clear and is open to misinterpretation. An editor assumed that the drawbar was placed too high and pulled the tractor over backward when the implement being pulled was stuck. However, that problem would have nothing to do with the transmission and would certainly not be caused by lowering a component on the tractor.
What apperars to be the case is that the increased torque from the engine to counter a powered implement being clogged caused a reaction in the transmission that lifted the front wheels off the ground and flipped the tractor over.
It is a pity the source was not more clear that the "sudden resistance on the drawbar" was on the driveshaft and not on the entire drawbar. The rest of the passage makes it clearer.
Sincerely, SamBlob ( talk) 12:07, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
I think a clarification is required related to the use of the names "Henry Ford & Son" and "Fordson", or maybe a rewrite of some sections is in its place. For instance, I can't quite get the following two pieces of information to add up:
Henry Ford & Son had used the cable address "Fordson" for years. In 1918, it was adopted as the brand name marked on the tractors.
and
Ford incorporated his private company, Henry Ford and Son Inc, to mass-produce the tractor on July 27, 1917
I mean, if Henry Ford and Son was incorporated in 1917, how could they have used the cable address "Fordson" for years by 1918? Or did "Henry Ford & Son" exist as an entity different from the company before that? If so, what was its exact nature?
Also, there appears to be some inconsistency related to the use of the word "and" and the ampersand character ("&"). Then again, perhaps "Henry Ford & Son" refers to something different from "Henry Ford and Son Inc" - see above. 81.191.184.223 ( talk) 21:36, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
Do they leave Boyle all the time underneath the motor 2001:8004:C84:FFA:C55:D724:BFCD:14BB ( talk) 07:46, 31 March 2022 (UTC)