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As far as I know, the first generation Festiva was only built by Mazda and Kia - and never Ford in the US. Could someone comfirm this? -- Zilog Jones 03:19, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
Festivas existed from 1988 to 1993 in the United States. The Aspire is a compltely different car than what is generally known as the Festiva (except in areas where it's referred to as the Festiva Trio) and thusly there's no point in merging the article. 199.218.242.62 17:30, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Hey, the top picture is of an Aspire, which is basically a newer festiva, but not the same production line. Festiva stopped in 1993. I own a ford festiva, and in answer to the kia question, yes, it says on the door panel that the ENGINE is made by Kia Motors...
All American Ford Festivas & Aspires were made in Korea by Kia with Mazda B3 1.3L engines. Ford was part owner of Kia at the time. The Aspire is a second generation Festiva and the Kia Rio is the third generation (up to 2005). Ford simply renamed the newly redesigned car the Aspire in America although they still used the Festiva name elsewhere. Kia is now owned by Hyundai and no longer builds cars for Ford or Mazda, which is still owned by Ford. Also, Kia still built and sold the original Festiva as the Kia Pride until the year 2000.
As far as the United States and Canada, the Ford Aspire is a different car and needs a separate entry from the Festiva. But in other English speaking countries such as Australia a Ford Aspire is in fact a Ford Festiva so there is going to be overlap in the articles.
In Australia, the last models were known as Ford Festiva Trio and had DOHC 1.5L engines with MPI replacing the TBI SOHC 1.3L models. I believe this was to comply with more stringent EC regulations (?). The bodies and trim appear identical. 203.39.81.92 ( talk) 09:00, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
There seems to be some confusion over the origins of this car. As I understand it, the WA Festiva (the first, boxy model) was a Mazda Demio car made under licence By Kia Motors in Korea. None were made in Japan, and none were made by Mazda. The second model, which was called the Aspire in North America, and the Festiva in Australasia, was jointly developed by Ford and Kia Motors. Both of these models had throttle-body injection or multipoint injection - none had a carburetor, which probably wouldn't have met the EC regulations (particularly in USA). The Kia Rio was a completely new car developed by Kia, and was never going to be sold by Ford. And the Ford Ka was not really a 'flop' since it was only available as a 3 door manual, which limited its appeal. 203.39.81.92 ( talk) 04:57, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
I have attempted to clarify the background of the first generation car. At the same time, I have also merged Kia Pride and Kia Avella into this article, although the Iranian models still have their own articles. OSX ( talk • contributions) 06:21, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
I Gave this article a complete overhaul. Karrmann 21:12, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
I removed "the Yugo quickly fell due to alleged reliability problems, and that left the Festiva nearly monopolizing the market, with the 4 door Dodge Omni being its only real competition, until the introduction of the aerodynamically styled Geo Metro in 1989" because it's not really true. The Festiva had lots of competition, lots of automakers had a small subcompact car in the class of the Festiva, ie Sprint, Tercel, Colt, Micra, Justy. The Geo Metro is just another name for the Chevy Sprint, which was sold from 1985. Edrigu 18:50, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Copied from the edit summary of the 09:25, 17 February 2011 revision to Ford Festiva: I do not think this car was ever referred to as "DB" (most likely an error in the GoAuto source). "DB" refers to the "bubble" Mazda 121 ( Autozam Revue). OSX ( talk • contributions) 09:25, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Mazda 121: Vettura prodotta da: KIA - Denominazione per il mercato giapponese: Ford Festiva - Presentazione modello origine: 10/1985
I am not sure about any good Mazda books. The brand does not interest me enough (as a whole) to pursue such purchases. In general, finding books written on Asian cars is hard due to the language barrier. Holden on the other hand, has a plethora of great books written about their cars. For the last three generations of Commodore, Holden has granted a journalist the rights to publish a book on the entire development history of the car. Basically, the author signs a confidentially agreement about 12 months before the car is released, and they speak to all the engineers, designers, managers, et cetera and come up with a great book when the car is released. The details are insane. For example, the book published for the VE Commodore discusses at huge length how Holden made a huge internal fuss to reduce the official fuel consumption figure of the base model by 0.1 L/100 km to fall under the psychological 11.0 L/km barrier. Other matters discussed include trivialities such as the selection of paint colours and upholstery textile, so if you're into this sort of information, I am certain no other brand anywhere in the world can offer the amount that Holden does.
Concerning the Festiva, I remember reading somewhere (I think is was regarding the Chevrolet Camaro) that left-hand drive vehicles are considered prestigious in Japan. How prestigious can a Ford Festiva really be? Apparently, " in 1990, one of the most prestigious cars to own in Japan was a Honda NS-X exported to America under the Acura name, complete with left hand drive, and then re-imported into Japan which, correctly, drives on the left." OSX ( talk • contributions) 09:42, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
>"South Korean first generation sales began in 1987 under the name Kia Pride, assembled by Kia under license. Australasia and Europe received the first version between 1987 and 1991 as the "Mazda 121". After 1991, Australasian sales occurred under the "Ford Festiva" name, while European sales continued under the name "Kia Pride"."
>"South Korean first generation sales began in 1987 under the name Kia Pride, assembled by Kia under license. Australasia and Europe received the first version between 1987 and 1991 as the "Mazda 121". After 1991, Australasian sales occurred under the "Ford Festiva" name, while European sales continued under the name "Kia Pride".
>"The first generation Ford Festiva was designed by Mazda in Japan at the request of parent company Ford."
Ford was NEVER the parent company of Mazda. They had no more than 30% of shares, which was a strategic holding to prevent Mazda being bought by some else, such as Toyota or GM. DiamondView98 ( talk) 02:18, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
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As far as I know, the first generation Festiva was only built by Mazda and Kia - and never Ford in the US. Could someone comfirm this? -- Zilog Jones 03:19, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
Festivas existed from 1988 to 1993 in the United States. The Aspire is a compltely different car than what is generally known as the Festiva (except in areas where it's referred to as the Festiva Trio) and thusly there's no point in merging the article. 199.218.242.62 17:30, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Hey, the top picture is of an Aspire, which is basically a newer festiva, but not the same production line. Festiva stopped in 1993. I own a ford festiva, and in answer to the kia question, yes, it says on the door panel that the ENGINE is made by Kia Motors...
All American Ford Festivas & Aspires were made in Korea by Kia with Mazda B3 1.3L engines. Ford was part owner of Kia at the time. The Aspire is a second generation Festiva and the Kia Rio is the third generation (up to 2005). Ford simply renamed the newly redesigned car the Aspire in America although they still used the Festiva name elsewhere. Kia is now owned by Hyundai and no longer builds cars for Ford or Mazda, which is still owned by Ford. Also, Kia still built and sold the original Festiva as the Kia Pride until the year 2000.
As far as the United States and Canada, the Ford Aspire is a different car and needs a separate entry from the Festiva. But in other English speaking countries such as Australia a Ford Aspire is in fact a Ford Festiva so there is going to be overlap in the articles.
In Australia, the last models were known as Ford Festiva Trio and had DOHC 1.5L engines with MPI replacing the TBI SOHC 1.3L models. I believe this was to comply with more stringent EC regulations (?). The bodies and trim appear identical. 203.39.81.92 ( talk) 09:00, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
There seems to be some confusion over the origins of this car. As I understand it, the WA Festiva (the first, boxy model) was a Mazda Demio car made under licence By Kia Motors in Korea. None were made in Japan, and none were made by Mazda. The second model, which was called the Aspire in North America, and the Festiva in Australasia, was jointly developed by Ford and Kia Motors. Both of these models had throttle-body injection or multipoint injection - none had a carburetor, which probably wouldn't have met the EC regulations (particularly in USA). The Kia Rio was a completely new car developed by Kia, and was never going to be sold by Ford. And the Ford Ka was not really a 'flop' since it was only available as a 3 door manual, which limited its appeal. 203.39.81.92 ( talk) 04:57, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
I have attempted to clarify the background of the first generation car. At the same time, I have also merged Kia Pride and Kia Avella into this article, although the Iranian models still have their own articles. OSX ( talk • contributions) 06:21, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
I Gave this article a complete overhaul. Karrmann 21:12, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
I removed "the Yugo quickly fell due to alleged reliability problems, and that left the Festiva nearly monopolizing the market, with the 4 door Dodge Omni being its only real competition, until the introduction of the aerodynamically styled Geo Metro in 1989" because it's not really true. The Festiva had lots of competition, lots of automakers had a small subcompact car in the class of the Festiva, ie Sprint, Tercel, Colt, Micra, Justy. The Geo Metro is just another name for the Chevy Sprint, which was sold from 1985. Edrigu 18:50, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Copied from the edit summary of the 09:25, 17 February 2011 revision to Ford Festiva: I do not think this car was ever referred to as "DB" (most likely an error in the GoAuto source). "DB" refers to the "bubble" Mazda 121 ( Autozam Revue). OSX ( talk • contributions) 09:25, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Mazda 121: Vettura prodotta da: KIA - Denominazione per il mercato giapponese: Ford Festiva - Presentazione modello origine: 10/1985
I am not sure about any good Mazda books. The brand does not interest me enough (as a whole) to pursue such purchases. In general, finding books written on Asian cars is hard due to the language barrier. Holden on the other hand, has a plethora of great books written about their cars. For the last three generations of Commodore, Holden has granted a journalist the rights to publish a book on the entire development history of the car. Basically, the author signs a confidentially agreement about 12 months before the car is released, and they speak to all the engineers, designers, managers, et cetera and come up with a great book when the car is released. The details are insane. For example, the book published for the VE Commodore discusses at huge length how Holden made a huge internal fuss to reduce the official fuel consumption figure of the base model by 0.1 L/100 km to fall under the psychological 11.0 L/km barrier. Other matters discussed include trivialities such as the selection of paint colours and upholstery textile, so if you're into this sort of information, I am certain no other brand anywhere in the world can offer the amount that Holden does.
Concerning the Festiva, I remember reading somewhere (I think is was regarding the Chevrolet Camaro) that left-hand drive vehicles are considered prestigious in Japan. How prestigious can a Ford Festiva really be? Apparently, " in 1990, one of the most prestigious cars to own in Japan was a Honda NS-X exported to America under the Acura name, complete with left hand drive, and then re-imported into Japan which, correctly, drives on the left." OSX ( talk • contributions) 09:42, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
>"South Korean first generation sales began in 1987 under the name Kia Pride, assembled by Kia under license. Australasia and Europe received the first version between 1987 and 1991 as the "Mazda 121". After 1991, Australasian sales occurred under the "Ford Festiva" name, while European sales continued under the name "Kia Pride"."
>"South Korean first generation sales began in 1987 under the name Kia Pride, assembled by Kia under license. Australasia and Europe received the first version between 1987 and 1991 as the "Mazda 121". After 1991, Australasian sales occurred under the "Ford Festiva" name, while European sales continued under the name "Kia Pride".
>"The first generation Ford Festiva was designed by Mazda in Japan at the request of parent company Ford."
Ford was NEVER the parent company of Mazda. They had no more than 30% of shares, which was a strategic holding to prevent Mazda being bought by some else, such as Toyota or GM. DiamondView98 ( talk) 02:18, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
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