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Wow! Who wrote this? The Spruce Goose fanclub? It's terrible! How is is possible to write an entry of this length and spend a good half of it waffling on and on about a single prototype that barely even flew, and yet practically ignore the Sunderland, the Catalina, the Empire Boat, the Boeing Clippers, the ....... Gahh. Tannin 13:38, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Please don't forget Kawanishi H8K "Emily" too! -- Kadzuwo 20:44, 1 May 2004 (UTC)
Don´t forget the only one: [ [1]] Dagoflores -- 189.166.14.226 ( talk) 07:32, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
To the user who was complaining about the Spruce Goose. It is only featured in the article twice. Once about the shape and once about the boat it self. There are plenty of other flying boats mentioned here. The article also has paragraphes deticated on other flying boats. Why did you focus on this one?
Mrld 15:43, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
The page on flying boats says it has been suggested to merge that article with the article on seaplanes. I would not to. For reasons, see Jeremy Clarkson's chapter on flying boats in his book "I know you've got soul". Why not just add a link between the two pages instead. JohnStais2000 11:31, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
I agree. Flying boats and seaplanes are two entirely different types of aircraft. I think the merge tag should be removed. Herostratus 12:17, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
I think you all are wrong. I think this article should be merged because a flying boat and seaplanes both take off on water. Some seaplanes take off on land. It makes sense to merge them. Mrld 17:44, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
Well you say a flying boat is actually a boat!! Where's the ruddar or other things a boat needs? This is why these articles need to be merged.
Mrld
00:50, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
I thought it was fairly well understood that floatplanes and flying boats are quite different types of aircraft. To design, build, maintain and fly. That they are both seaplanes is also indisputable! And the rules and regs make support my view: Go look. There should be three articles. Seaplanes should mention there are two main categories and link to them and not say much more. And the other two articles should remain separate. Paul Beardsell 14:15, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Who dares argue with three dictionaries? Paul Beardsell 14:39, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
You all are right. I took the merge down. We shouldn't bash each other and turn this into an editing war.
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The recently-added paragraphs have left the summary rather unbalanced. There is now less about flying boats than the types they are not. Isn't it the purpose of wikilinks to point to the other articles in such cases? At present it reads more like a disambiguation page than an intro to flying boats. -- TraceyR ( talk) 21:27, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
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Am I alone in wondering how and/or why the Philately project assesses an article about flying boats? I could understand that the Aircraft project might be concerned about the ways in which flying boats are portrayed on stamps, but vice versa? -- TraceyR ( talk) 18:01, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Also include the Kenmore Beaver —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.245.163.207 ( talk) 08:51, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
This image in the LOC collection states it is a Curtiss Flying Boat sent to england and could be included in the article... it is in the Commons (no known restrictions on usage) [3] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.172.108.134 ( talk) 14:28, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
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WTF does this mean: "the rear section of the lower hull sharply recessed above the forward lower hull section" ?? Yes I know what a flying boat looks like (Short's, Consolidated's), but the semantics of this phrase are beyond me: rear of lower ABOVE the (forward) LOWER ? If you didn't know the context, could you sketch a diagram from this phrase? L0ngpar1sh ( talk) 12:25, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
I really don't know much about this topic, but when I was reading this article, I clicked on the Bavar 2 link, and the page for it says that the Bavar 2 is a ground vehicle, not a plane — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.44.137.195 ( talk) 14:14, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
This article and the article on Float Planes contradict each other. This article states that a flying boat "has no type of landing gear to allow operation on land". The article on float planes states "Either type of seaplane may also have landing gear suitable for land". I don't know anything about either, but the two statements can't both be true. I have included this comment here, as opposed to the float plane talk board as even in this article, there is a photograph featured of a flying boat with landing gear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.202.140.48 ( talk)
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in reading this page i cant believe the level of false and inaccurate content... quote In September 1919 British company Supermarine started operating the first flying boat service in the world, from Woolston to Le Havre in France, but it was short-lived. Everyone knows or should know!!! the first scheduled air service in the world was also the first scheduled flying boatservice in the worldd... Jan 1st 1914 to April 1914 St.Petersburg to Tampa, USA Jacob805 18:28, 24 May 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacob805 ( talk • contribs)
Hi ya bilcat... here is my source,( http://www.space.com/16657-worlds-first-commercial-airline-the-greatest-moments-in-flight.html) I can provide others if needed. I was an airline manager for 25 years, 7 of those in Tampa. There is a huge mural about the first air service and a historical display photos models ect... Sorry but I just assumed you knew this fact. Jacob805 19:09, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
I will draft an additional section on the first scheduled air service using a flying boat this weekJacob805 19:09, 4 June 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacob805 ( talk • contribs)
here is another good one with photos that I will use ( http://www.historynet.com/st-petersburgtampa-airboat-line-worlds-first-scheduled-airline-using-winged-aircraft.htm) BilCat ( talk) 14:29, 6 December 2017 (UTC)jacb805
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I know from books that mention it in passing, that there was a Clipper service (flying boat) between Lisbon, Portugal and the East coast of North America (USA or Canada), and that this service ran from sometime before the war and all through it. (The service also had a refueling arrangement at Shannon, Ireland.)
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Are there any flying-boats with the wings mounted low on the fuselage? (and biplane-flying-boats don't count). 184.186.4.209 ( talk) 03:43, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
The Italian, Vittorio Centurione Scotto ( Genoa , 7 May 1900 - Lake Varese , 21 September 1926) was an aviator who was chosen to participate in the Schneider Cup for seaplane speed which was to be held in Norfolk in 1926. However, he died when his seaplane crashed during practice. At the time he was said to broken the world altitude record for seaplanes. Does anyone have further information? Shipsview ( talk) 19:34, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
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Hi all. The intro paragraph is a bit confusing and I wanted to suggest some edits to improve clarity. The intro's to seaplane and floatplane generally explain the classification structure of "seaplane (either floatplane or flying boat)" better and I wanted to reproduce that in this article.
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A flying boat is a type of fixed-winged seaplane with a hull, allowing it to land on water. [1] It differs from a floatplane in that a flying boat's fuselage is purpose-designed for floatation and contains a hull, while floatplanes rely on fuselage-mounted floats for buoyancy. Though the fuselage provides buoyancy, flying boats may also utilize under-wing floats or wing-like projections (called sponsons) extending from the fuselage for additional stability. Flying boats often lack landing gear which would allow them to land on the ground, though many modern designs are convertible amphibious aircraft which may switch between landing gear and flotation mode for water or ground takeoff and landing.
Oh, and also remove the bit I copy pasted from the end of the intro about convertible aircraft and switching ("Many modern seaplane variants, whether float or flying boat....") Jasonkwe ( talk) ( contribs) 18:43, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
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I was quite surprised to see no reference to the Martin M-130 which constituted the first regular commercial trans-pacific airline flights as the China Clipper, about the most famous flying boats of the interwar period. My reference for this is Wikipedia’s own entry under “Trans-pacific Flight”. In addition, there is a reference to the use of sponsons in the Dornier flying bout that seem to suggest that these were unique to their Do X model while they were also notable on the M-130. 2601:989:4200:B0D0:3DC3:3F16:C2B5:2328 ( talk) 21:08, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
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Wow! Who wrote this? The Spruce Goose fanclub? It's terrible! How is is possible to write an entry of this length and spend a good half of it waffling on and on about a single prototype that barely even flew, and yet practically ignore the Sunderland, the Catalina, the Empire Boat, the Boeing Clippers, the ....... Gahh. Tannin 13:38, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Please don't forget Kawanishi H8K "Emily" too! -- Kadzuwo 20:44, 1 May 2004 (UTC)
Don´t forget the only one: [ [1]] Dagoflores -- 189.166.14.226 ( talk) 07:32, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
To the user who was complaining about the Spruce Goose. It is only featured in the article twice. Once about the shape and once about the boat it self. There are plenty of other flying boats mentioned here. The article also has paragraphes deticated on other flying boats. Why did you focus on this one?
Mrld 15:43, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
The page on flying boats says it has been suggested to merge that article with the article on seaplanes. I would not to. For reasons, see Jeremy Clarkson's chapter on flying boats in his book "I know you've got soul". Why not just add a link between the two pages instead. JohnStais2000 11:31, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
I agree. Flying boats and seaplanes are two entirely different types of aircraft. I think the merge tag should be removed. Herostratus 12:17, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
I think you all are wrong. I think this article should be merged because a flying boat and seaplanes both take off on water. Some seaplanes take off on land. It makes sense to merge them. Mrld 17:44, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
Well you say a flying boat is actually a boat!! Where's the ruddar or other things a boat needs? This is why these articles need to be merged.
Mrld
00:50, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
I thought it was fairly well understood that floatplanes and flying boats are quite different types of aircraft. To design, build, maintain and fly. That they are both seaplanes is also indisputable! And the rules and regs make support my view: Go look. There should be three articles. Seaplanes should mention there are two main categories and link to them and not say much more. And the other two articles should remain separate. Paul Beardsell 14:15, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Who dares argue with three dictionaries? Paul Beardsell 14:39, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
You all are right. I took the merge down. We shouldn't bash each other and turn this into an editing war.
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The recently-added paragraphs have left the summary rather unbalanced. There is now less about flying boats than the types they are not. Isn't it the purpose of wikilinks to point to the other articles in such cases? At present it reads more like a disambiguation page than an intro to flying boats. -- TraceyR ( talk) 21:27, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
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Am I alone in wondering how and/or why the Philately project assesses an article about flying boats? I could understand that the Aircraft project might be concerned about the ways in which flying boats are portrayed on stamps, but vice versa? -- TraceyR ( talk) 18:01, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Also include the Kenmore Beaver —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.245.163.207 ( talk) 08:51, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
This image in the LOC collection states it is a Curtiss Flying Boat sent to england and could be included in the article... it is in the Commons (no known restrictions on usage) [3] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.172.108.134 ( talk) 14:28, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
This article looks like it's been improved considerably since it was assessed as C-class. Would someone in the aviation project please take another look at it? Wi2g 17:14, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
WTF does this mean: "the rear section of the lower hull sharply recessed above the forward lower hull section" ?? Yes I know what a flying boat looks like (Short's, Consolidated's), but the semantics of this phrase are beyond me: rear of lower ABOVE the (forward) LOWER ? If you didn't know the context, could you sketch a diagram from this phrase? L0ngpar1sh ( talk) 12:25, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
I really don't know much about this topic, but when I was reading this article, I clicked on the Bavar 2 link, and the page for it says that the Bavar 2 is a ground vehicle, not a plane — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.44.137.195 ( talk) 14:14, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
This article and the article on Float Planes contradict each other. This article states that a flying boat "has no type of landing gear to allow operation on land". The article on float planes states "Either type of seaplane may also have landing gear suitable for land". I don't know anything about either, but the two statements can't both be true. I have included this comment here, as opposed to the float plane talk board as even in this article, there is a photograph featured of a flying boat with landing gear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.202.140.48 ( talk)
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in reading this page i cant believe the level of false and inaccurate content... quote In September 1919 British company Supermarine started operating the first flying boat service in the world, from Woolston to Le Havre in France, but it was short-lived. Everyone knows or should know!!! the first scheduled air service in the world was also the first scheduled flying boatservice in the worldd... Jan 1st 1914 to April 1914 St.Petersburg to Tampa, USA Jacob805 18:28, 24 May 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacob805 ( talk • contribs)
Hi ya bilcat... here is my source,( http://www.space.com/16657-worlds-first-commercial-airline-the-greatest-moments-in-flight.html) I can provide others if needed. I was an airline manager for 25 years, 7 of those in Tampa. There is a huge mural about the first air service and a historical display photos models ect... Sorry but I just assumed you knew this fact. Jacob805 19:09, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
I will draft an additional section on the first scheduled air service using a flying boat this weekJacob805 19:09, 4 June 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacob805 ( talk • contribs)
here is another good one with photos that I will use ( http://www.historynet.com/st-petersburgtampa-airboat-line-worlds-first-scheduled-airline-using-winged-aircraft.htm) BilCat ( talk) 14:29, 6 December 2017 (UTC)jacb805
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I know from books that mention it in passing, that there was a Clipper service (flying boat) between Lisbon, Portugal and the East coast of North America (USA or Canada), and that this service ran from sometime before the war and all through it. (The service also had a refueling arrangement at Shannon, Ireland.)
So my very simple question/request is: Could somebody with access to more direct sources please write something about this service ?
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A large portion of this article is essentially identical to a large portion of Seaplane. It has been this way for over a year based on comments on Talk:Seaplane. Should these articles be merged or made more distinctive? 107.5.24.101 ( talk) 00:56, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
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Are there any flying-boats with the wings mounted low on the fuselage? (and biplane-flying-boats don't count). 184.186.4.209 ( talk) 03:43, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
The Italian, Vittorio Centurione Scotto ( Genoa , 7 May 1900 - Lake Varese , 21 September 1926) was an aviator who was chosen to participate in the Schneider Cup for seaplane speed which was to be held in Norfolk in 1926. However, he died when his seaplane crashed during practice. At the time he was said to broken the world altitude record for seaplanes. Does anyone have further information? Shipsview ( talk) 19:34, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
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Hi all. The intro paragraph is a bit confusing and I wanted to suggest some edits to improve clarity. The intro's to seaplane and floatplane generally explain the classification structure of "seaplane (either floatplane or flying boat)" better and I wanted to reproduce that in this article.
What do y'all think of this?
A flying boat is a type of fixed-winged seaplane with a hull, allowing it to land on water. [1] It differs from a floatplane in that a flying boat's fuselage is purpose-designed for floatation and contains a hull, while floatplanes rely on fuselage-mounted floats for buoyancy. Though the fuselage provides buoyancy, flying boats may also utilize under-wing floats or wing-like projections (called sponsons) extending from the fuselage for additional stability. Flying boats often lack landing gear which would allow them to land on the ground, though many modern designs are convertible amphibious aircraft which may switch between landing gear and flotation mode for water or ground takeoff and landing.
Oh, and also remove the bit I copy pasted from the end of the intro about convertible aircraft and switching ("Many modern seaplane variants, whether float or flying boat....") Jasonkwe ( talk) ( contribs) 18:43, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
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I was quite surprised to see no reference to the Martin M-130 which constituted the first regular commercial trans-pacific airline flights as the China Clipper, about the most famous flying boats of the interwar period. My reference for this is Wikipedia’s own entry under “Trans-pacific Flight”. In addition, there is a reference to the use of sponsons in the Dornier flying bout that seem to suggest that these were unique to their Do X model while they were also notable on the M-130. 2601:989:4200:B0D0:3DC3:3F16:C2B5:2328 ( talk) 21:08, 5 October 2023 (UTC)