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No mention of Fluor's nuclear waste operation. This entry reads like a press release ~~ memetank
Additional facts of their operation citing the 5 major groups of the company. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thinkbeforeyoupost ( talk • contribs) 22:38, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Naomi Klein discusses Fluor extensively in her book
The Shock Doctrine, in relation to no-bid contracts and with reconstructive efforts, specifically with the war in Iraq and Hurricane Katrina. Klein's stance is critical but well-developed in one of her more popular works, and should be mentioned in the article.
It's pretty obvious that this article is being edited by someone who represents Fluor and is trying to promote the company. This has been reverted several times by various users but it invariably returns again and again. This is not the place for corporate marketing, so cut it out! SirLamer 22:11, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
This piece doesn't bother to mention there is no mention of the very large presence that Fluor has in Iraq. Is that not significant or are they trying to hid it?
23:53, 10 September 2007 (UTC)~
I am affiliated with Fluor Corp. and have offered a draft of a substantially improved version of the article at the Conflict of Interest Noticeboard here for consideration/review/feedback by impartial editors. I wanted to also post here on the Talk page in case there are editors with this page on their watchlist that want to discuss the new material. CorporateM ( Talk) 21:47, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
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Just a note that I am reading this over, and comparing it to what is now at Fluor Corporation. I'll give more detailed feedback soon(-ish). My first quick thought is that this looks much, much better than what is live. I'm afraid I won't be much help in determining whether or not it will be good enough for GA but I can at least lend my support as an unbiased editor without a COI. -- Atama 頭 22:00, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Below is the material that didn't make it into my draft, because it wasn't sourced well-enough. For the Notable projects section, I mostly looked for jobs included in profiles that summarize their most important jobs, with some exceptions where the item was covered in a lot of media. However it wasn't always clear which projects to include. I was really on the fence with the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge project for example.
CorporateM ( Talk) 23:10, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
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Suggest adding a "See also" section with a link to the Wikipedia page on NuScale Power. It is mentioned in this page that Fluor has a majority interest in it. CorporateM ( Talk) 17:03, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
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The current article states: "According to the company website, Fluor has four primary business groups....". The website has been updated to reflect that the company is now organized into six segments. That being said, I think breaking down all six segments in bullets as is done now for four segments is too much. As such, I suggest the following more concise replacement for that sentence and all four bullets.
I can update the annual report reference each year as a non-controversial edit with the latest numbers. CorporateM ( Talk) 21:29, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
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Suggest adding construction of the Tappan Zee Bridge over the Hudson river to the "Notable Projects" section.
The Notable Projects section is just a concise summary of the most significant works, but as a $3 billion project covered in national media like Bloomberg, this seemed like it was significant enough to mention.
Also, the current Lede says "in four areas: energy and chemicals, industrial and infrastructure, government and Fluor Global Services such as staffing and equipment rentals." I suggest we replace this with the industries mentioned in Fluor's annual report: oil & gas, industrial & infrastructure, government and power. David King, Ethical Wiki ( Talk) 14:22, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
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Requesting Fluor's recent acquisition be added. Some potential text is below, cited to Reuters:
"Fluor acquired an engineering and construction firm based in the Netherlands called Stork for $755 million in March 2016. Stork mostly modifies and maintains large power plants. [1] [2]"
David King, Ethical Wiki (CorporateM) ( Talk) 21:59, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
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Someone added the following text to the bottom of the article
Fluor recently took over as the primary contractor at Plant Vogtle (Bechtel took over vogtle in August 2017), Units 3 & 4, and V.C. Summer (v.c summer got shut down. all work stopped in August 2017), Units 2 & 3. CB&I previously had the contract.
The content is unsourced and sounds likely to be written from personal knowledge. There are some sources about Fluor's work with Vogtle, but none that indicate it was a major historical milestone that would amount to something more than listing every project Fluor works on. As I have a COI, I would like to request another editor trim the content.
Pinging @ TLSuda: who did the GA review back in 2014. CorporateM ( Talk) 14:33, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
The passage you mention as being problematic is actually 2 seperately added claim statements. The first, most recent part of the claim was added in August of last year. The second part predates August of 2017. My questions:
In light of these discrepancies it may be necessary to revoke the GA status and begin anew with a more lengthy, and thoroughly complete GA review. Please advise.
Regards,
Spintendo
19:24, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
The unsourced addition was made in October 2016, and updated later. I've removed it pending someone finding sourcing that indicates it merits inclusion. Yngvadottir ( talk) 04:48, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
The article barely mentions Daniel International and none of it's key people. This is the biggest weakness in the whole Wiki concept. History literally "disappears before our eyes"!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:A000:1300:602D:D07B:EA07:4790:9EBC ( talk) 18:11, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
The end of the "Recent history" section says:
On May 2, 2019, Fluor's stocks fell by more than 20 percent following both the abrupt departure of David Seaton as CEO and an unexpected first-quarter loss.The loss comes a month after the company was not chosen as a repeat contractor for a LOGCAP military construction and logistics support contract in Afghanistan. Followin Seaton's departure, Fluor's board named former CEO Alan Boeckmann as executive chairman.
Wikipedia doesn't normally include stock-value updates or use editorialized language like "abrupt departure" and "unexpected .... loss." The content cites this source regarding losing a major client, but the same citation also mentions a major client win that wasn't included. I wanted to suggest more neutral content as follows:
"In May 2019, David Seaton stepped down as CEO and was replaced by Carlos Hernandez."
Pinging @ Loopylu101: who made some of these edits recently, as well as @ North8000: and @ Guy Macon: who have worked on this page in the past given my disclosed conflict of interest. CorporateM ( Talk) 18:33, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
A couple accounts (@ Tevincoleman26: and @ Culturehound:) recently added some content that is cited exclusively to Fluor press releases. These two accounts made similar edits and edit-summaries within 10 minutes of each other. I want to request the edits be reverted on account of being cited to press releases (and want to clarify these are not Fluor edits). As previously disclosed, I work for Fluor as their Wikipedia point-person and have a disclosed conflict of interest. Pinging @ Guy Macon: and @ North8000:, who have previously participated here. CorporateM ( Talk) 15:02, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
Isn't this overly selective in what is highlighted? It goes from specific to vague.-- DonaldMSpencer ( talk) 19:03, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello, On the Fluor Corporation page info box on the right, the company headquarters location says "Grapevine" Texas. We are actually located in "Irving" Texas as stated in the first sentence of the article. Can this be corrected? Thank you
Hi, On line 2 of the first paragraph and in the summary box under Industry, it has been listed that Fluor is connected to the Fluoride industry. We actually have no connection to the Fluoride industry; Fluor is an Engineering, Procurement and Construction company. Can these changes be corrected? If you need more information, feel free to contact me. Thanks MrKevinGoddard ( talk) 18:23, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
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No mention of Fluor's nuclear waste operation. This entry reads like a press release ~~ memetank
Additional facts of their operation citing the 5 major groups of the company. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thinkbeforeyoupost ( talk • contribs) 22:38, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Naomi Klein discusses Fluor extensively in her book
The Shock Doctrine, in relation to no-bid contracts and with reconstructive efforts, specifically with the war in Iraq and Hurricane Katrina. Klein's stance is critical but well-developed in one of her more popular works, and should be mentioned in the article.
It's pretty obvious that this article is being edited by someone who represents Fluor and is trying to promote the company. This has been reverted several times by various users but it invariably returns again and again. This is not the place for corporate marketing, so cut it out! SirLamer 22:11, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
This piece doesn't bother to mention there is no mention of the very large presence that Fluor has in Iraq. Is that not significant or are they trying to hid it?
23:53, 10 September 2007 (UTC)~
I am affiliated with Fluor Corp. and have offered a draft of a substantially improved version of the article at the Conflict of Interest Noticeboard here for consideration/review/feedback by impartial editors. I wanted to also post here on the Talk page in case there are editors with this page on their watchlist that want to discuss the new material. CorporateM ( Talk) 21:47, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
Reviewing this article
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Just a note that I am reading this over, and comparing it to what is now at Fluor Corporation. I'll give more detailed feedback soon(-ish). My first quick thought is that this looks much, much better than what is live. I'm afraid I won't be much help in determining whether or not it will be good enough for GA but I can at least lend my support as an unbiased editor without a COI. -- Atama 頭 22:00, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Below is the material that didn't make it into my draft, because it wasn't sourced well-enough. For the Notable projects section, I mostly looked for jobs included in profiles that summarize their most important jobs, with some exceptions where the item was covered in a lot of media. However it wasn't always clear which projects to include. I was really on the fence with the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge project for example.
CorporateM ( Talk) 23:10, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
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Suggest adding a "See also" section with a link to the Wikipedia page on NuScale Power. It is mentioned in this page that Fluor has a majority interest in it. CorporateM ( Talk) 17:03, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
Article promoted - 13 July 2014.
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Reviewer: TLSuda ( talk · contribs) 19:02, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
Initial reviewGA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
Prose reviewLead
Early history
Diversification and restructuring
Recent history
Organization
Notable objects
Side question
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The current article states: "According to the company website, Fluor has four primary business groups....". The website has been updated to reflect that the company is now organized into six segments. That being said, I think breaking down all six segments in bullets as is done now for four segments is too much. As such, I suggest the following more concise replacement for that sentence and all four bullets.
I can update the annual report reference each year as a non-controversial edit with the latest numbers. CorporateM ( Talk) 21:29, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
![]() | This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
Suggest adding construction of the Tappan Zee Bridge over the Hudson river to the "Notable Projects" section.
The Notable Projects section is just a concise summary of the most significant works, but as a $3 billion project covered in national media like Bloomberg, this seemed like it was significant enough to mention.
Also, the current Lede says "in four areas: energy and chemicals, industrial and infrastructure, government and Fluor Global Services such as staffing and equipment rentals." I suggest we replace this with the industries mentioned in Fluor's annual report: oil & gas, industrial & infrastructure, government and power. David King, Ethical Wiki ( Talk) 14:22, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
References
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Requesting Fluor's recent acquisition be added. Some potential text is below, cited to Reuters:
"Fluor acquired an engineering and construction firm based in the Netherlands called Stork for $755 million in March 2016. Stork mostly modifies and maintains large power plants. [1] [2]"
David King, Ethical Wiki (CorporateM) ( Talk) 21:59, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
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Someone added the following text to the bottom of the article
Fluor recently took over as the primary contractor at Plant Vogtle (Bechtel took over vogtle in August 2017), Units 3 & 4, and V.C. Summer (v.c summer got shut down. all work stopped in August 2017), Units 2 & 3. CB&I previously had the contract.
The content is unsourced and sounds likely to be written from personal knowledge. There are some sources about Fluor's work with Vogtle, but none that indicate it was a major historical milestone that would amount to something more than listing every project Fluor works on. As I have a COI, I would like to request another editor trim the content.
Pinging @ TLSuda: who did the GA review back in 2014. CorporateM ( Talk) 14:33, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
The passage you mention as being problematic is actually 2 seperately added claim statements. The first, most recent part of the claim was added in August of last year. The second part predates August of 2017. My questions:
In light of these discrepancies it may be necessary to revoke the GA status and begin anew with a more lengthy, and thoroughly complete GA review. Please advise.
Regards,
Spintendo
19:24, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
The unsourced addition was made in October 2016, and updated later. I've removed it pending someone finding sourcing that indicates it merits inclusion. Yngvadottir ( talk) 04:48, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
The article barely mentions Daniel International and none of it's key people. This is the biggest weakness in the whole Wiki concept. History literally "disappears before our eyes"!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:A000:1300:602D:D07B:EA07:4790:9EBC ( talk) 18:11, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
The end of the "Recent history" section says:
On May 2, 2019, Fluor's stocks fell by more than 20 percent following both the abrupt departure of David Seaton as CEO and an unexpected first-quarter loss.The loss comes a month after the company was not chosen as a repeat contractor for a LOGCAP military construction and logistics support contract in Afghanistan. Followin Seaton's departure, Fluor's board named former CEO Alan Boeckmann as executive chairman.
Wikipedia doesn't normally include stock-value updates or use editorialized language like "abrupt departure" and "unexpected .... loss." The content cites this source regarding losing a major client, but the same citation also mentions a major client win that wasn't included. I wanted to suggest more neutral content as follows:
"In May 2019, David Seaton stepped down as CEO and was replaced by Carlos Hernandez."
Pinging @ Loopylu101: who made some of these edits recently, as well as @ North8000: and @ Guy Macon: who have worked on this page in the past given my disclosed conflict of interest. CorporateM ( Talk) 18:33, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
A couple accounts (@ Tevincoleman26: and @ Culturehound:) recently added some content that is cited exclusively to Fluor press releases. These two accounts made similar edits and edit-summaries within 10 minutes of each other. I want to request the edits be reverted on account of being cited to press releases (and want to clarify these are not Fluor edits). As previously disclosed, I work for Fluor as their Wikipedia point-person and have a disclosed conflict of interest. Pinging @ Guy Macon: and @ North8000:, who have previously participated here. CorporateM ( Talk) 15:02, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
Isn't this overly selective in what is highlighted? It goes from specific to vague.-- DonaldMSpencer ( talk) 19:03, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello, On the Fluor Corporation page info box on the right, the company headquarters location says "Grapevine" Texas. We are actually located in "Irving" Texas as stated in the first sentence of the article. Can this be corrected? Thank you
Hi, On line 2 of the first paragraph and in the summary box under Industry, it has been listed that Fluor is connected to the Fluoride industry. We actually have no connection to the Fluoride industry; Fluor is an Engineering, Procurement and Construction company. Can these changes be corrected? If you need more information, feel free to contact me. Thanks MrKevinGoddard ( talk) 18:23, 6 March 2024 (UTC)