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On 1 March 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Fixed point (mathematics) to Fixed point. The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
On 8 April 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to Fixed point of a function. The result of the discussion was not moved. |
On 4 October 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to Fixed point. The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
Davey/Priestley are simply wrong™ on this. The earlier, better reference is Cousot&Cousot, 1979, http://www.di.ens.fr/~cousot/COUSOTpapers/publications.www/CousotCousot-PacJMath-82-1-1979.pdf , where the the prefixed and postfixed points are defined correctly™. Changed.
The result of the move request was: not moved. Favonian ( talk) 07:55, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
Fixed point (mathematics) → Fixed point of a function – An RM discussion was just closed with no consensus for the suggested WP:PRIMARYTOPIC title of Fixed point for this article. However, the closer of that discussion also suggested further discussion of the article title, and I saw no expressions of support for the current article title in that discussion (e.g., due to ambiguity with Fixed-point arithmetic, an alternative to Floating point that is also a matter of mathematics). When the RM was closed, more than a month had passed by since I had suggested Fixed point of a function, and no one ever responded to that suggestion – even after I highlighted the suggestion in another comment directly about the lack of response after 12 days. The proposed title is more clear and also provides WP:NATURAL disambiguation. There was clear opposition to Invariant point as the title. — BarrelProof ( talk) 21:50, 8 April 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Heart (talk) 03:57, 16 April 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Favonian ( talk) 08:34, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
I think the Smyth-Plotkin 1982 usage is more common than the Cousot-Cousot 1979 usage. They seem equally natural to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.188.201.12 ( talk) 21:44, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus. ( closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 20:04, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
– After my edits this article is about the usage of fixed points in a range of areas, such as math, computer science, and logic, with a brief mention of the physics definition, so it is not just about mathematics anymore and is more suited to be at Fixed point. Looking at the dab stats it seems that it is 50-50 fixed point (mathematics) and fixed-point arithmetic, so no help there in determining a primary topic. As argued in the previous RM though, the primary topic of the term "fixed point" is the sense described on this page. "Fixed-point" uses a dash, for one thing - looking at a dictionary they are clearly separate. Also, in terms of long-term significance, the usage in computers is relatively recent and niche, and the usage as a point that is fixed has been around for centuries and is still going strong in every high school math classroom. Also the close last time as no consensus seems pretty suspicious by my count - the only actual oppositions were No such user and BarrelProof who preferred moving to invariant point, and they were rebutted by eviolite and also opposed by Felix QW. So if this page doesn't become the primary topic then Wikipedia's RM process is just broken. Mathnerd314159 ( talk) 04:09, 4 October 2022 (UTC) — Relisted. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'r there 10:32, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
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On 1 March 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Fixed point (mathematics) to Fixed point. The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
On 8 April 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to Fixed point of a function. The result of the discussion was not moved. |
On 4 October 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to Fixed point. The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
Davey/Priestley are simply wrong™ on this. The earlier, better reference is Cousot&Cousot, 1979, http://www.di.ens.fr/~cousot/COUSOTpapers/publications.www/CousotCousot-PacJMath-82-1-1979.pdf , where the the prefixed and postfixed points are defined correctly™. Changed.
The result of the move request was: not moved. Favonian ( talk) 07:55, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
Fixed point (mathematics) → Fixed point of a function – An RM discussion was just closed with no consensus for the suggested WP:PRIMARYTOPIC title of Fixed point for this article. However, the closer of that discussion also suggested further discussion of the article title, and I saw no expressions of support for the current article title in that discussion (e.g., due to ambiguity with Fixed-point arithmetic, an alternative to Floating point that is also a matter of mathematics). When the RM was closed, more than a month had passed by since I had suggested Fixed point of a function, and no one ever responded to that suggestion – even after I highlighted the suggestion in another comment directly about the lack of response after 12 days. The proposed title is more clear and also provides WP:NATURAL disambiguation. There was clear opposition to Invariant point as the title. — BarrelProof ( talk) 21:50, 8 April 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Heart (talk) 03:57, 16 April 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Favonian ( talk) 08:34, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
I think the Smyth-Plotkin 1982 usage is more common than the Cousot-Cousot 1979 usage. They seem equally natural to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.188.201.12 ( talk) 21:44, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus. ( closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 20:04, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
– After my edits this article is about the usage of fixed points in a range of areas, such as math, computer science, and logic, with a brief mention of the physics definition, so it is not just about mathematics anymore and is more suited to be at Fixed point. Looking at the dab stats it seems that it is 50-50 fixed point (mathematics) and fixed-point arithmetic, so no help there in determining a primary topic. As argued in the previous RM though, the primary topic of the term "fixed point" is the sense described on this page. "Fixed-point" uses a dash, for one thing - looking at a dictionary they are clearly separate. Also, in terms of long-term significance, the usage in computers is relatively recent and niche, and the usage as a point that is fixed has been around for centuries and is still going strong in every high school math classroom. Also the close last time as no consensus seems pretty suspicious by my count - the only actual oppositions were No such user and BarrelProof who preferred moving to invariant point, and they were rebutted by eviolite and also opposed by Felix QW. So if this page doesn't become the primary topic then Wikipedia's RM process is just broken. Mathnerd314159 ( talk) 04:09, 4 October 2022 (UTC) — Relisted. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'r there 10:32, 14 October 2022 (UTC)