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He incorrectly predicted the winner in 2016 which I see no mention of in this article and he was off in multiple states in 2020... That's just at the presidential level. He's missed many times on gubernatorials, senate elections, congressionals, etc. This wiki page is laughably biased in favor of 538 and Nate Silver. His model has incorrectly predicted virtually every major sporting champion for the past several years. 2600:6C5E:107F:701:F8D9:8BAE:7F6:18C ( talk) 17:53, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
This is all OR, and needs a source, but bears saying.
www.fivethirtyeight.com no longer exists. It is now an archived site, and soft-redirects users to https://abcnews.go.com/538. This implies to me that the company is no longer independent and is now more of an arms-length analysis body of ABC.
This change has also come with a new logo, with the numbers 538 stylised. If someone can find a source, that'd be brilliant. Couruu ( talk) 13:52, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
The current state of this article is deplorable. There is next to no coverage of Nate Silver's failures, only his successes. I'm not saying he's not successful or influential. I'm saying the lack of a downside makes our article *very* suspicious. The {{
primary}}
tag is a huge problem, since it basically turns the article into a spokesperson for 538's excellence. The emphasis on the 538 performance on past elections is very likely undue, exacerbated by the lack of 3rd party coverage. After a brief look over I rate this article "close to trainwreck" status.
It needs some serious attention, preferably by people that follow US polling, to introduce some semblance of neutral balanced reporting, and also WAY more reliable sources. Failing such attention, I propose we trim down the article to its bare bones, and then let people organically add things back again (this time using secondary sources).
CapnZapp ( talk) 21:27, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
the 538 podcast isn't mentioned. it was originally Jody Avirgan, Clare Malone, Harry Enten, and Nate Silver, and now it is Galen Druke, Leah Askarinam, Nathaniel Rakich, and Geoffrey Skelley.
would appreciate if someone would take the time to properly add it. cheers! -- Lommes ( talk) 06:04, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
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He incorrectly predicted the winner in 2016 which I see no mention of in this article and he was off in multiple states in 2020... That's just at the presidential level. He's missed many times on gubernatorials, senate elections, congressionals, etc. This wiki page is laughably biased in favor of 538 and Nate Silver. His model has incorrectly predicted virtually every major sporting champion for the past several years. 2600:6C5E:107F:701:F8D9:8BAE:7F6:18C ( talk) 17:53, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
This is all OR, and needs a source, but bears saying.
www.fivethirtyeight.com no longer exists. It is now an archived site, and soft-redirects users to https://abcnews.go.com/538. This implies to me that the company is no longer independent and is now more of an arms-length analysis body of ABC.
This change has also come with a new logo, with the numbers 538 stylised. If someone can find a source, that'd be brilliant. Couruu ( talk) 13:52, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
The current state of this article is deplorable. There is next to no coverage of Nate Silver's failures, only his successes. I'm not saying he's not successful or influential. I'm saying the lack of a downside makes our article *very* suspicious. The {{
primary}}
tag is a huge problem, since it basically turns the article into a spokesperson for 538's excellence. The emphasis on the 538 performance on past elections is very likely undue, exacerbated by the lack of 3rd party coverage. After a brief look over I rate this article "close to trainwreck" status.
It needs some serious attention, preferably by people that follow US polling, to introduce some semblance of neutral balanced reporting, and also WAY more reliable sources. Failing such attention, I propose we trim down the article to its bare bones, and then let people organically add things back again (this time using secondary sources).
CapnZapp ( talk) 21:27, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
the 538 podcast isn't mentioned. it was originally Jody Avirgan, Clare Malone, Harry Enten, and Nate Silver, and now it is Galen Druke, Leah Askarinam, Nathaniel Rakich, and Geoffrey Skelley.
would appreciate if someone would take the time to properly add it. cheers! -- Lommes ( talk) 06:04, 2 December 2023 (UTC)