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Melvin Little and Walt Brown are no longer members of the SPUSA (the two resigned), and thus cannot be members of FaRT. Michael Marino is currently suspended, and I think Gabe Ross also resigned, but I can't recall for sure. 65.173.199.254 19:02, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- This is a personal attack and slur against Comrades of good stand in modern social democracy's function of Socialists. It will be reported to Wikipedia. Comraderedoctober 10:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
- It's only a personal attack and slur if it is untrue. Walt Brown, however, continues to be a member of the party in good standing and is the SP-USA's legal counsel. Melvin Little resigned and Gabe Ross is no longer in good standing. They cannot, therefore, be members of an internal tendency of the SP-USA. Chegitz guevara ( talk) 12:10, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
So says Chegitz guevara if he can be considered any authority and there would be am absolute standard in those matters. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.68.111.159 ( talk) 22:47, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
The history section was rather misleading. Marino was suspended in June 2007, not in 2006. He was only suspended until the convention and was not reinstated by the convention. His membership wasn't dealt with at all at the convention. I also fixed some grammar and spelling errors. Finally, there are not hard feelings between all four of the tendencies, only between First and Rose and the other tendencies. The Direct Action Tendency is on life-support and takes no political stances on internal SP politics, while the Grass Roots Tendency and the Debs Tendency do not have hard feelings for each other and actually get along quite well. Chegitz guevara ( talk) 12:06, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
I removed the "press release" tag, but it still needs some external sources, because otherwise it fails Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). Some indication that it has a membership might help too. Otherwise I'm nominating for deletion next week. T L Miles ( talk) 21:30, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- Any and all groups have a legal Right to keep its membership from the public except where required by law. A prime example is Freemasonry. Comraderedoctober 14:23, 22 February 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.122.45.99 ( talk)
I would propose redirecting this page, as well as Grass Roots Tendency and Debs Tendency, to Socialist Party USA. I just don't think these groupings are notable by themselves. The Direct Action Tendency is already a redirect. In part that's because it disbanded a couple of years ago, but none of the others have been especially active that I can tell. - David Schaich Talk/ Cont 08:42, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
- Hearing no objections, it's done. - David Schaich Talk/ Cont 04:15, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
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Melvin Little and Walt Brown are no longer members of the SPUSA (the two resigned), and thus cannot be members of FaRT. Michael Marino is currently suspended, and I think Gabe Ross also resigned, but I can't recall for sure. 65.173.199.254 19:02, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- This is a personal attack and slur against Comrades of good stand in modern social democracy's function of Socialists. It will be reported to Wikipedia. Comraderedoctober 10:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
- It's only a personal attack and slur if it is untrue. Walt Brown, however, continues to be a member of the party in good standing and is the SP-USA's legal counsel. Melvin Little resigned and Gabe Ross is no longer in good standing. They cannot, therefore, be members of an internal tendency of the SP-USA. Chegitz guevara ( talk) 12:10, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
So says Chegitz guevara if he can be considered any authority and there would be am absolute standard in those matters. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.68.111.159 ( talk) 22:47, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
The history section was rather misleading. Marino was suspended in June 2007, not in 2006. He was only suspended until the convention and was not reinstated by the convention. His membership wasn't dealt with at all at the convention. I also fixed some grammar and spelling errors. Finally, there are not hard feelings between all four of the tendencies, only between First and Rose and the other tendencies. The Direct Action Tendency is on life-support and takes no political stances on internal SP politics, while the Grass Roots Tendency and the Debs Tendency do not have hard feelings for each other and actually get along quite well. Chegitz guevara ( talk) 12:06, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
I removed the "press release" tag, but it still needs some external sources, because otherwise it fails Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). Some indication that it has a membership might help too. Otherwise I'm nominating for deletion next week. T L Miles ( talk) 21:30, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- Any and all groups have a legal Right to keep its membership from the public except where required by law. A prime example is Freemasonry. Comraderedoctober 14:23, 22 February 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.122.45.99 ( talk)
I would propose redirecting this page, as well as Grass Roots Tendency and Debs Tendency, to Socialist Party USA. I just don't think these groupings are notable by themselves. The Direct Action Tendency is already a redirect. In part that's because it disbanded a couple of years ago, but none of the others have been especially active that I can tell. - David Schaich Talk/ Cont 08:42, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
- Hearing no objections, it's done. - David Schaich Talk/ Cont 04:15, 11 March 2008 (UTC)