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Image:False Creek boats.JPG shows F/V Krista Gail rigged to fish as a purse seiner, and is thus not appropriate for an entry on fishing trawlers. The area of False Creek where the photo was taken is home predominantly to seiners, trollers and gillnetters... 24.84.44.248 ( talk) 03:35, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
I used to play this game in grade school.
You control a trawler with various nets to catch fish and other seafood.
I don't know what the system name was. I think it was unix, but I'm not sure.
I really want this game.
please respond if you have any info on the game I'm talking about. 07:53, 31 May 2006 User:209.217.123.71
I have added a page Trawler (boat). Maybe a disambiguation page is needed. 00:48, 29 July 2006 User:Skapur
Seems that "Cruising Trawler" should be changed to "Recreational Trawler." It is a better description. Not all trawler owners "cruise," which has a long-term connotation (several weeks or more). Many -- probably most -- owners just make day trips or weekend trips.
There are a few changes I would suggest on the Cruising Trawler page, but I will list them there.
If anyone has any thoughts, please speak up.
TheMadMariner 23:57, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
I strongly agree that a trawler yacht, like fishing trawlers, must be a displacement hull. A Grand Banks 42 is a beautiful yacht but due to its semi-displacement hull does not qualify as a trawler yacht. Trawleryacht ( talk) 21:45, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
There is a proposal to merge Recreational trawler with Commercial trawler. I oppose this merge on the grounds that they are chalk and cheese. A commercial trawler is an industrial boat falling under categories such as the fishing industry and fishing vessels. A recreational trawler is a recreational boat falling under categories such as recreation and boats. The two articles fall into entirely different interest areas. -- Geronimo20 ( talk) 06:24, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
I have a problem with your deletions and additions to commercial trawler. You have removed two core summary sections about the naval and recreational use of trawlers, stating, as though it were sufficient reason, that the material can be found elsewhere.
You have replaced these sections with a section of your own an an image gallery. The section you added by yourself is titled "Design features", and contains one sentence, which says: "The crew's beds are bunks, with cot sides to stop the occupant from rolling out when the boat rolls in heavy weather." Well Anthony, this applies to pretty much any boat that has beds in it. It has nothing specifically to do with trawlers.
Your image gallery contains a picture of a bed with cot sides (sigh), two unclear picture of the aft deck, one of which might be useful if you could actually see how the gear was laid out, and a picture of the bridge, which mainly shows just the normal navigation aids you would find on any boat of this size. The picture of the bridge might have been useful if it focused on the extensive electronic equipment which modern trawlers carry specifically to aid the trawling, but your picture doesn't do that.
I appreciate that you are enthusiastic. Your approach might seem a nice approach to a reader who knows nothing about boats, and is reading the article on commercial trawlers in order to find out what a boat is. But readers who come to the article to find out what a commercial trawler is will find that you have removed specific information about trawlers and replaced it with information that applies to pretty much any larger boat.
I have restored the sections on naval and recreational uses and removed your offering on "Design features". Perhaps you could add this section and your cot picture to the articles on boats. Anyway, I have left your image gallery for now, but I really don't think it illustrates anything much that specifically distinguishes commercial trawlers.-- Geronimo20 ( talk) 22:01, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
For what it's worth:
in summary - I'd support leaving the recreational and naval subsections out except the single sentence referred to above. Naval and recreational trawlers should be linked in "See Also", and a hunt commenced for better images. Euryalus ( talk) 04:17, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Having had a chance to read the article in more detail I have copyedited the "Design features" section to:
As always, any disagreements or opposing views are welcome - am happy to discuss here at length and see if a consensus can be reached on the way the section (ro article) should appear. Euryalus ( talk) 23:58, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was PAGE MOVED per discussion below. - GTBacchus( talk) 01:44, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
This article do probably need a section addressing the major environmental damage that trawler fishing causes —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.89.255.216 ( talk) 21:18, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
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Image:False Creek boats.JPG shows F/V Krista Gail rigged to fish as a purse seiner, and is thus not appropriate for an entry on fishing trawlers. The area of False Creek where the photo was taken is home predominantly to seiners, trollers and gillnetters... 24.84.44.248 ( talk) 03:35, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
I used to play this game in grade school.
You control a trawler with various nets to catch fish and other seafood.
I don't know what the system name was. I think it was unix, but I'm not sure.
I really want this game.
please respond if you have any info on the game I'm talking about. 07:53, 31 May 2006 User:209.217.123.71
I have added a page Trawler (boat). Maybe a disambiguation page is needed. 00:48, 29 July 2006 User:Skapur
Seems that "Cruising Trawler" should be changed to "Recreational Trawler." It is a better description. Not all trawler owners "cruise," which has a long-term connotation (several weeks or more). Many -- probably most -- owners just make day trips or weekend trips.
There are a few changes I would suggest on the Cruising Trawler page, but I will list them there.
If anyone has any thoughts, please speak up.
TheMadMariner 23:57, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
I strongly agree that a trawler yacht, like fishing trawlers, must be a displacement hull. A Grand Banks 42 is a beautiful yacht but due to its semi-displacement hull does not qualify as a trawler yacht. Trawleryacht ( talk) 21:45, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
There is a proposal to merge Recreational trawler with Commercial trawler. I oppose this merge on the grounds that they are chalk and cheese. A commercial trawler is an industrial boat falling under categories such as the fishing industry and fishing vessels. A recreational trawler is a recreational boat falling under categories such as recreation and boats. The two articles fall into entirely different interest areas. -- Geronimo20 ( talk) 06:24, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
I have a problem with your deletions and additions to commercial trawler. You have removed two core summary sections about the naval and recreational use of trawlers, stating, as though it were sufficient reason, that the material can be found elsewhere.
You have replaced these sections with a section of your own an an image gallery. The section you added by yourself is titled "Design features", and contains one sentence, which says: "The crew's beds are bunks, with cot sides to stop the occupant from rolling out when the boat rolls in heavy weather." Well Anthony, this applies to pretty much any boat that has beds in it. It has nothing specifically to do with trawlers.
Your image gallery contains a picture of a bed with cot sides (sigh), two unclear picture of the aft deck, one of which might be useful if you could actually see how the gear was laid out, and a picture of the bridge, which mainly shows just the normal navigation aids you would find on any boat of this size. The picture of the bridge might have been useful if it focused on the extensive electronic equipment which modern trawlers carry specifically to aid the trawling, but your picture doesn't do that.
I appreciate that you are enthusiastic. Your approach might seem a nice approach to a reader who knows nothing about boats, and is reading the article on commercial trawlers in order to find out what a boat is. But readers who come to the article to find out what a commercial trawler is will find that you have removed specific information about trawlers and replaced it with information that applies to pretty much any larger boat.
I have restored the sections on naval and recreational uses and removed your offering on "Design features". Perhaps you could add this section and your cot picture to the articles on boats. Anyway, I have left your image gallery for now, but I really don't think it illustrates anything much that specifically distinguishes commercial trawlers.-- Geronimo20 ( talk) 22:01, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
For what it's worth:
in summary - I'd support leaving the recreational and naval subsections out except the single sentence referred to above. Naval and recreational trawlers should be linked in "See Also", and a hunt commenced for better images. Euryalus ( talk) 04:17, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Having had a chance to read the article in more detail I have copyedited the "Design features" section to:
As always, any disagreements or opposing views are welcome - am happy to discuss here at length and see if a consensus can be reached on the way the section (ro article) should appear. Euryalus ( talk) 23:58, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was PAGE MOVED per discussion below. - GTBacchus( talk) 01:44, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
This article do probably need a section addressing the major environmental damage that trawler fishing causes —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.89.255.216 ( talk) 21:18, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
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