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There are specific recommendations for catalysts on the main article page. Why wouldn't other acids work? âPreceding unsigned comment added by 128.220.155.13 ( talk) 05:13, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
The following was posted in the article page itself...moving it to talk...
I have no idea why this article was ever renamed. The reaction is called the "Fischer esterification" far, far more than it is called the "Fischer-Speier esterification". I have never owned a textbook or attended a lecture in which the latter name was used. A simple google search confirms this: 189,000 hits for Fischer esterification, but only 3060 for Fischer-Speier esterification. It's one thing to include a list of alternate names at the beginning of the article, but to claim that a minor variant is the "more accepted name" when it is in fact less common by a factor of 60 is really disingenuous. Does your last name happen to be Speier, by any chance?
In all seriousness, Mr. Physchim62, the perpetrator, seems to have a penchant for moving and merging articles, an exercise that is frequently pointless (cf. Talk:Association_football). This article should never have been renamed. - 71.195.18.33 ( talk) 09:45, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
I think it is useful to specify which step in the Fischer esterification mechanism is the slow or rate-limiting step. Pikalax 17:16, 22 October 2012 (UTC) â Preceding unsigned comment added by Pikalax ( talk ⢠contribs)
The picture on top has absolutely no content of information, it should be removed. -- Supermole1 ( talk) 16:55, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
Two sources are cited supporting the statement that Fischer esterification of phenols does proceed w/ near quantitative yields. However, a large number of quality sources (not only textbooks) would show otherwise (low equilibrium constant, low rate of rxn etc.).
Do said textbooks actually mention low yields (I havenât noticed it in any one textbook Iâve used) or low K and rxn rates? After all, even a slow, low-K process can be performed w/ reasonable yields (thatâs the point of reflux after all), it might just be that it isnât practical.
Iâd say it might need a slight rephrasing, something among the lines of âdespite low rates of reaction and low equilibrium constants, the esterification of phenols can be performed w/ good to quantitative yieldsâ Vladbadu ( talk) 12:33, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
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There are specific recommendations for catalysts on the main article page. Why wouldn't other acids work? âPreceding unsigned comment added by 128.220.155.13 ( talk) 05:13, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
The following was posted in the article page itself...moving it to talk...
I have no idea why this article was ever renamed. The reaction is called the "Fischer esterification" far, far more than it is called the "Fischer-Speier esterification". I have never owned a textbook or attended a lecture in which the latter name was used. A simple google search confirms this: 189,000 hits for Fischer esterification, but only 3060 for Fischer-Speier esterification. It's one thing to include a list of alternate names at the beginning of the article, but to claim that a minor variant is the "more accepted name" when it is in fact less common by a factor of 60 is really disingenuous. Does your last name happen to be Speier, by any chance?
In all seriousness, Mr. Physchim62, the perpetrator, seems to have a penchant for moving and merging articles, an exercise that is frequently pointless (cf. Talk:Association_football). This article should never have been renamed. - 71.195.18.33 ( talk) 09:45, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
I think it is useful to specify which step in the Fischer esterification mechanism is the slow or rate-limiting step. Pikalax 17:16, 22 October 2012 (UTC) â Preceding unsigned comment added by Pikalax ( talk ⢠contribs)
The picture on top has absolutely no content of information, it should be removed. -- Supermole1 ( talk) 16:55, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
Two sources are cited supporting the statement that Fischer esterification of phenols does proceed w/ near quantitative yields. However, a large number of quality sources (not only textbooks) would show otherwise (low equilibrium constant, low rate of rxn etc.).
Do said textbooks actually mention low yields (I havenât noticed it in any one textbook Iâve used) or low K and rxn rates? After all, even a slow, low-K process can be performed w/ reasonable yields (thatâs the point of reflux after all), it might just be that it isnât practical.
Iâd say it might need a slight rephrasing, something among the lines of âdespite low rates of reaction and low equilibrium constants, the esterification of phenols can be performed w/ good to quantitative yieldsâ Vladbadu ( talk) 12:33, 6 April 2019 (UTC)