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Links needs a major overhaul - several seem completely unrelated to the issues allegedly discussed. 99.240.131.60 ( talk) 06:14, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Wouldn't this be decribed as a siege? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.73.141.184 ( talk) 12:35, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Are we sure? I haven't seen that confirmed yet, and the report speaks only of "a witness" claiming that; AFAIK, the battle is still going on. — Nightstallion 18:47, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Just for reference: This source from just an hour ago states Zawiyah is still being fought over, and not yet in Qaddafi's hands. — Nightstallion 22:23, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
It looks like the situation is just like in Fallujah or Vukovar where most of the fighting will be over, but sporadic pockets of resistance will still put up a fight for another few weeks before they are all cleared. EkoGraf ( talk) 23:29, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
How many times has a Gaddafi victory be proclaimed? Just because the government can get 100 people into a square doesn't mean the fighting has ended conclusively. No media sources say the battle is over; they only say that the government has a tenuous hold on the city center. The battle won't be over until skirmishing is finished. So, due to the lack of evidence for a conclusive (ie "it's over") end, this battle is ongoing.-- Henohenomoheji ( talk) 22:05, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
As an asset, it never participed in this battle. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.1.141.55 ( talk • contribs)
Do we actually have sources stating that Gen. Anaqrat and Col. Gaith were killed in action? ~~ Lothar von Richthofen ( talk) 09:06, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Major news organizations have only began reporting the Az Zawiyah uprising today, but rebel sources had been reporting it by 6 June (ex: [1]). I'm inclined to believe the latter, because reports of the uprising indicated that it had already been going on for at least a few days (Gaddafi forces reacting by sending reinforcements/closing off roads, rebels securing a large portion of the city), and there is no obvious propaganda benefit regarding the date of an uprising (as opposed to, say, claiming the capture of a town or inflicting heavy casualties.) Since no exact dates have been quoted in the article thus far, I'm going to leave the dates vague for now ('early June'), unless others have suggestions. Seleucus ( talk) 20:15, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
The renewed uprising that started on June 11 should receive its own page as the "Second Battle of Az Zawiyah" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heresbubba53190 ( talk • contribs) 21:25, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Phase 2 (June 10 – ongoing) should be treated as an separate battle. -- 93.139.183.26 ( talk) 09:02, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
At what point do you think we should start another page for Az Zawiya? Seleucus ( talk) 20:14, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
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Links needs a major overhaul - several seem completely unrelated to the issues allegedly discussed. 99.240.131.60 ( talk) 06:14, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Wouldn't this be decribed as a siege? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.73.141.184 ( talk) 12:35, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Are we sure? I haven't seen that confirmed yet, and the report speaks only of "a witness" claiming that; AFAIK, the battle is still going on. — Nightstallion 18:47, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Just for reference: This source from just an hour ago states Zawiyah is still being fought over, and not yet in Qaddafi's hands. — Nightstallion 22:23, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
It looks like the situation is just like in Fallujah or Vukovar where most of the fighting will be over, but sporadic pockets of resistance will still put up a fight for another few weeks before they are all cleared. EkoGraf ( talk) 23:29, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
How many times has a Gaddafi victory be proclaimed? Just because the government can get 100 people into a square doesn't mean the fighting has ended conclusively. No media sources say the battle is over; they only say that the government has a tenuous hold on the city center. The battle won't be over until skirmishing is finished. So, due to the lack of evidence for a conclusive (ie "it's over") end, this battle is ongoing.-- Henohenomoheji ( talk) 22:05, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
As an asset, it never participed in this battle. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.1.141.55 ( talk • contribs)
Do we actually have sources stating that Gen. Anaqrat and Col. Gaith were killed in action? ~~ Lothar von Richthofen ( talk) 09:06, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Major news organizations have only began reporting the Az Zawiyah uprising today, but rebel sources had been reporting it by 6 June (ex: [1]). I'm inclined to believe the latter, because reports of the uprising indicated that it had already been going on for at least a few days (Gaddafi forces reacting by sending reinforcements/closing off roads, rebels securing a large portion of the city), and there is no obvious propaganda benefit regarding the date of an uprising (as opposed to, say, claiming the capture of a town or inflicting heavy casualties.) Since no exact dates have been quoted in the article thus far, I'm going to leave the dates vague for now ('early June'), unless others have suggestions. Seleucus ( talk) 20:15, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
The renewed uprising that started on June 11 should receive its own page as the "Second Battle of Az Zawiyah" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heresbubba53190 ( talk • contribs) 21:25, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Phase 2 (June 10 – ongoing) should be treated as an separate battle. -- 93.139.183.26 ( talk) 09:02, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
At what point do you think we should start another page for Az Zawiya? Seleucus ( talk) 20:14, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
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