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Why shouldn't this page be merged with Firestorm (comics)? -- Rocketgoat 01:57, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
Because it was separated from the Firestorm (comics) page before. Is like the Flash (comics) page, who in fact has becomed a big disambiguation for Jay Garrick, Barry Allen and Wally West. Firestorm III has become a definitely separated character from Firestorm I, who currently shares with the former Firestorm only the mantle. I'm surprised from the lack of a Martin Stein (comics) page, but I fully agree with the Jason Rusch (comics) page. DrTofu83 19:16, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
The merge seems a good Idea, but be careful from my perspective the atom page sucks. Maybe it be a good ideato make individual hero cards for Firestorm I and II.-- T-man... ""worst vandal ever"" 01:25, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Um actually the Pages were merged together in the beginning but I thought Jason was such a different character that he deserved his own page and made it. --
User:RyuKlinge 19:54, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
- It seems to me that a lot of the information in the Firestorm III section on the Firestorm (comics) page and in this page is redundant, though. He's certainly a different character, but I don't see why that prohibits him from sharing the page with the other Firestorm variations. That page is just "Firestorm", not "Ronnie Raymond" or "Ronnie Raymond and Martin Stein". As it is, these two pages are repeated in several of their categories. -- Rocketgoat 05:33, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure how much does DC cares about confusing people with different versions. The Bat-Embargo situation seems to be more consern about confusing tv viewers with diferent versions of the batvillains on The Batman series. And the idiotic Aquaman thing is kind of the same case. Then again, Speedy from Teen Titans, where Robin seems to be Dick, appeared on Justice League, where Dick is already Nightwing. And this happened just a week or so.
Not so important to the issue I'm addresing, but related observations: From my opinion, neither Timm neither Didio seem to care, if JLU characters match DC. On the first 2 seasons, Timm picked Steward to be Green Landtern, din't care about Aquaman and put Hawgirl instead... with the identity of Shayera, who in the comics is Hawkwoman. The injustice gangs kind of matched, but for the fifth season, they started a group of villains that looks just like current DC secret society line up but is called the Legion of Doom. Even more contradictory, on season 2, Grodd, the Leader of this Legion of Doom had a small group called the Secret Society... which worst, it didn't act as secret as the LoD and the SS current comic version act. It didn't acted in a seacret way at all. Nevermind it has most of the superfriend's original 13 (missing scarecrow ans riddler because of the batembargo and captain cold) a look alike base, the legion is tecnically a secret society and vice versa!
Timm's choices seem to be about two criterias: Rights availability and his own Impredictability: his first idea of the justice league lineup seemed the JLA: detroit line-up!, then Aquaman as a villain, Hades instead of Ares, no Hal Jordan good explanation, etc. But thats a point of view only.-- T-man... ""worst vandal ever"" 01:25, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Jason Rusch (comics) → Jason Rusch – {There is no other Jason Rusch, so Wikipedia Comics Naming Conventions dictate that it should drop the "comics" part} -- Rocketgoat 06:12, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
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- Of course. Done. — Nightst a llion (?) Seen this already? 20:00, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
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Just a quick note on the comic book series published by DC that have used "Firestorm" as either the whole title or part of the title:
- Firestorm vol. 1 - 5 issues starting in 1978. An ongoing that was cancelled.
- The Fury of Firestorm - 64 issues starting in 1982. An ongoing that had it's name changed with issue 65.
- Firestorm, the Nuclear Man vol. 1 - 36 issues starting with the name change in 1987 and was eventually cancelled in 1990.
- Firestorm vol. 2 - 22 issues starting in 2004. An ongoing that had it's name changed with issue 22.
- Firestorm: The Nuclear Man vol. 2 - 13 issues starting with the name change in 2006 and was eventually cancelled in 2007.
There has yet to be a Firestorm vol. 3.
References:
| This article was nominated for merging with Firestorm (comics) on 7 October 2011. The result of the discussion was merge. |
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| Text and/or other creative content from this version of Firestorm (Jason Rusch) was copied or moved into Firestorm (comics) with this edit. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists. |
Why shouldn't this page be merged with Firestorm (comics)? -- Rocketgoat 01:57, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
Because it was separated from the Firestorm (comics) page before. Is like the Flash (comics) page, who in fact has becomed a big disambiguation for Jay Garrick, Barry Allen and Wally West. Firestorm III has become a definitely separated character from Firestorm I, who currently shares with the former Firestorm only the mantle. I'm surprised from the lack of a Martin Stein (comics) page, but I fully agree with the Jason Rusch (comics) page. DrTofu83 19:16, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
The merge seems a good Idea, but be careful from my perspective the atom page sucks. Maybe it be a good ideato make individual hero cards for Firestorm I and II.-- T-man... ""worst vandal ever"" 01:25, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Um actually the Pages were merged together in the beginning but I thought Jason was such a different character that he deserved his own page and made it. --
User:RyuKlinge 19:54, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
- It seems to me that a lot of the information in the Firestorm III section on the Firestorm (comics) page and in this page is redundant, though. He's certainly a different character, but I don't see why that prohibits him from sharing the page with the other Firestorm variations. That page is just "Firestorm", not "Ronnie Raymond" or "Ronnie Raymond and Martin Stein". As it is, these two pages are repeated in several of their categories. -- Rocketgoat 05:33, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure how much does DC cares about confusing people with different versions. The Bat-Embargo situation seems to be more consern about confusing tv viewers with diferent versions of the batvillains on The Batman series. And the idiotic Aquaman thing is kind of the same case. Then again, Speedy from Teen Titans, where Robin seems to be Dick, appeared on Justice League, where Dick is already Nightwing. And this happened just a week or so.
Not so important to the issue I'm addresing, but related observations: From my opinion, neither Timm neither Didio seem to care, if JLU characters match DC. On the first 2 seasons, Timm picked Steward to be Green Landtern, din't care about Aquaman and put Hawgirl instead... with the identity of Shayera, who in the comics is Hawkwoman. The injustice gangs kind of matched, but for the fifth season, they started a group of villains that looks just like current DC secret society line up but is called the Legion of Doom. Even more contradictory, on season 2, Grodd, the Leader of this Legion of Doom had a small group called the Secret Society... which worst, it didn't act as secret as the LoD and the SS current comic version act. It didn't acted in a seacret way at all. Nevermind it has most of the superfriend's original 13 (missing scarecrow ans riddler because of the batembargo and captain cold) a look alike base, the legion is tecnically a secret society and vice versa!
Timm's choices seem to be about two criterias: Rights availability and his own Impredictability: his first idea of the justice league lineup seemed the JLA: detroit line-up!, then Aquaman as a villain, Hades instead of Ares, no Hal Jordan good explanation, etc. But thats a point of view only.-- T-man... ""worst vandal ever"" 01:25, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Jason Rusch (comics) → Jason Rusch – {There is no other Jason Rusch, so Wikipedia Comics Naming Conventions dictate that it should drop the "comics" part} -- Rocketgoat 06:12, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
Survey
- Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~
- Support. Olessi 00:31, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
- Of course. Done. — Nightst a llion (?) Seen this already? 20:00, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
Image:Firestorm two.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. BetacommandBot 07:08, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Just a quick note on the comic book series published by DC that have used "Firestorm" as either the whole title or part of the title:
- Firestorm vol. 1 - 5 issues starting in 1978. An ongoing that was cancelled.
- The Fury of Firestorm - 64 issues starting in 1982. An ongoing that had it's name changed with issue 65.
- Firestorm, the Nuclear Man vol. 1 - 36 issues starting with the name change in 1987 and was eventually cancelled in 1990.
- Firestorm vol. 2 - 22 issues starting in 2004. An ongoing that had it's name changed with issue 22.
- Firestorm: The Nuclear Man vol. 2 - 13 issues starting with the name change in 2006 and was eventually cancelled in 2007.
There has yet to be a Firestorm vol. 3.
References: