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The distinction between original research and inherent fact is sometimes very slight, but in the Gameplay section of this article, two consecutive sentences describing the most basic principles of the game's mechanics were slapped with a "fact" tag. Why? The sentences in question contain information so basic that one probably would never be able to find any other written text to cite. That doesn't make it wrong. It just means that it is obvious, and that anyone who has ever played the game would be in complete agreement. I understand the crusade to keep Wikipedia plagiarism- and error-free, but this is an instance of bringing the book down a little too hard on a section whose contents are inherently true because of the nature of the game. (For that matter, I think that the experience points and saving stuff would probably be better-suited in a general RPG article and not here, but if it's going to be here, I think it best to leave well enough alone.) 67.246.112.242 ( talk) 01:42, 18 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.246.112.242 ( talk) 01:36, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
There appears to be no outside universe information, reaction, design information, or anything like that. Since it appears that none is available, and exactly this sort of information is available on the Final Fantasy Wikia, I propose the Characters of Final Fantasy V be merged into this article to bolster it for Featured Article status. Judgesurreal777 20:45, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
I removed a quip about Reina being a mistranslation of Lenna, and X-Death of Exdeath. Despite the fact that later rereleases changed to the latter spelling, neither are wrong on their face. Reina and Lenna would be pronounced near identically in Japanese, Exdeath is a simple spelling choice. Exdeath is appearently supposed to be Exodus anyway (according to Tactics Advance and XII, anyway). So they're not mistranslations, they're just different. Xenon Zaleo 08:06, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
I was thinking of helping to get this article to featured status by doing some of the things on the to-do list, but I'm pretty new to all this and not sure what some of them mean (I know the "Attain FA Status"). So if someone could tell me what they mean, hopefully I'll be able to help. Thanks. Arrowny 22:56, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
Judgesurreal777 02:14, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
the people who first translated final fantasy v are being nominated for deletion. this is insane. voice your opinion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/RPGe 209.209.214.5 05:54, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
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Think we can do that as well as the todo list for FA status? Thanks. Greg Jones II 15:44, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
It just needs some touching up; it'll probably be ready for FAC by the end of the week. Hibana should have the honors of nominating the article for FAC. — Deckill er 12:41, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
The only major things I see are:
It's getting close, but am I talking to a wall? — Deckill er 16:23, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
The chart looks nice. Perhaps we can segregate the section into the original/PSX versions and the GBA version? — Deckill er 20:06, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Is this a reliable source? Kariteh 20:42, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
looking for the last final fantasy for computer that does not require on-line play —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.49.190.64 ( talk) 22:39, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Are there plans for one? FFIV DS was released one month ago in Japan. Hellcat fighter ( talk) 09:14, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
There is a way to finish the game in extremely low level (specifically lv 2, 2, 2, 3 or 2, 1, 1, 4) by a special combination of abilities and items, since boss characters grant no EXP and only a few enemies must be fought. While this could be sourced from 2 Chinese sites,( Fantastical Finality and [www.ffsky.com FFsky]) and is totally verifiable(anyone can try it for themselves by following the procedures). Should this be added into the article? Similar Game play could be played in FF VI, FF VIII and FF X-2 also. (In which the Ultimania guide of VIII and X-2 included the procedures of doing so) FF X Japanese version could be finished without using the sphere grid. But I guess I limit my question on FF V for now since it is the first game that could do so due to the job system. MythSearcher talk 17:46, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Noticed my (somewhat minor) corrections to the Story section have been reverted. Why? The information was innacurate; I know this game quite literally like the back of my hand. Played it through dozens of times. Check your facts.
This because I used a College IP?
Using my actual login this time, sorry for being lazy about that before.
Okay, I understand what you're saying about keeping things concise. Here though, it is at the expense of the accuracy of the information. Boko does NOT force Bartz to return for Lenna and Galuf; they continue in the direction they were originally going through an earthquake. Lenna and Galuf just happened to be there. They do NOT escape from Guido's Island before Exdeath sinks it; they are lifted out of the water by the Wind Drake. And they are dispatched to protect, not dispel the seals on the Crystals in the Master Tree; sadly they were attacked by the seals and forced to defend themselves, after which Exdeath turned up and took control of the Crystals. These facts are not reflected; indeed contrary impressions are given. This should be rectified, which is what I was about. I'm not going to do this again at risk of starting an edit war; we should try for consensus on this - I was under the impression Wikipedia was supposed to be accurate as a cornerstone policy? EDIT: Had another look, it seems I broke the page by mistake. I'll have a look at the situation. -- Targ Collective ( talk) 14:15, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
Kind of. I noticed a citation needed tag, and after searching the article, I found 17 citation needed tags. That's way too many for a GA, and it should've been picked up immediately. - A Link to the Past (talk) 03:50, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Result: delisted MuZemike 16:18, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
The article has large portions of content which is unsourced or poorly sourced (note: I have added additional {{ fact}}, {{ or}}, and {{ rs}} tags before this review to indicate content not backed by the next cited reliable source, original research, or user-generated unreliable sources.) It would not pass GA criterion #2. Also there seems to be undue weight on the Story section, which is too long and detailed compared to the rest of the content (goes against the MoS, failing criterion #1b). MuZemike 23:26, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
After a week and no substantial improvements to the article, I am delisting the article from GA status and reassessing as B-Class. Article can be renominated for GA after said improvements have been made. MuZemike 16:18, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm up to the Plot section right now in my comb-through of the article. My notebook is starting to run out of juice, so I'll have to pick this review up a little later. MuZemike 17:56, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
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It strikes me as odd that the article uses our translation for an article describing the original game. Shouldn't those screenshots show the Japanese version, since our version isn't official? Note that the one screenshot that has a caption mentioning that FF5 was one of the earliest fan translations is fine to leave as our version, since that's describing the fan translation. ("Our" because I was the reverse engineer on the RPGe team that did the FF5 fan translation.) -- Myria ( talk) 05:01, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
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the vulwe' 43.251.92.217 ( talk) 12:06, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
I only ask this as the image is at a pretty low resolution compared to the other SNES Final Fantasy games images for their articles like Final Fantasy IV and VI. File:Final Fantasy V Active Time Battle screenshot.png AerospaceCoot35 ( talk) 01:40, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
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The distinction between original research and inherent fact is sometimes very slight, but in the Gameplay section of this article, two consecutive sentences describing the most basic principles of the game's mechanics were slapped with a "fact" tag. Why? The sentences in question contain information so basic that one probably would never be able to find any other written text to cite. That doesn't make it wrong. It just means that it is obvious, and that anyone who has ever played the game would be in complete agreement. I understand the crusade to keep Wikipedia plagiarism- and error-free, but this is an instance of bringing the book down a little too hard on a section whose contents are inherently true because of the nature of the game. (For that matter, I think that the experience points and saving stuff would probably be better-suited in a general RPG article and not here, but if it's going to be here, I think it best to leave well enough alone.) 67.246.112.242 ( talk) 01:42, 18 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.246.112.242 ( talk) 01:36, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
There appears to be no outside universe information, reaction, design information, or anything like that. Since it appears that none is available, and exactly this sort of information is available on the Final Fantasy Wikia, I propose the Characters of Final Fantasy V be merged into this article to bolster it for Featured Article status. Judgesurreal777 20:45, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
I removed a quip about Reina being a mistranslation of Lenna, and X-Death of Exdeath. Despite the fact that later rereleases changed to the latter spelling, neither are wrong on their face. Reina and Lenna would be pronounced near identically in Japanese, Exdeath is a simple spelling choice. Exdeath is appearently supposed to be Exodus anyway (according to Tactics Advance and XII, anyway). So they're not mistranslations, they're just different. Xenon Zaleo 08:06, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
I was thinking of helping to get this article to featured status by doing some of the things on the to-do list, but I'm pretty new to all this and not sure what some of them mean (I know the "Attain FA Status"). So if someone could tell me what they mean, hopefully I'll be able to help. Thanks. Arrowny 22:56, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
Judgesurreal777 02:14, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
the people who first translated final fantasy v are being nominated for deletion. this is insane. voice your opinion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/RPGe 209.209.214.5 05:54, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
The following is a suggestions from a peer review:
The following suggestions were generated by a semi-automatic javascript program, and might not be applicable for the article in question.
- Again, shouldn't there be links in the plot story section?
- Per Wikipedia:Context and Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates), months and days of the week generally should not be linked. Years, decades, and centuries can be linked if they provide context for the article. [?]
- Per Wikipedia:Context and Wikipedia:Build the web, years with full dates should be linked; for example, link January 15, 2006. [?]
- As per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates), dates shouldn't use th; for example, instead of using January 30th was a great day, use January 30 was a great day. [?]
You may wish to browse through User:AndyZ/Suggestions for further ideas. Thanks, DrKiernan 14:52, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
Think we can do that as well as the todo list for FA status? Thanks. Greg Jones II 15:44, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
It just needs some touching up; it'll probably be ready for FAC by the end of the week. Hibana should have the honors of nominating the article for FAC. — Deckill er 12:41, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
The only major things I see are:
It's getting close, but am I talking to a wall? — Deckill er 16:23, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
The chart looks nice. Perhaps we can segregate the section into the original/PSX versions and the GBA version? — Deckill er 20:06, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Is this a reliable source? Kariteh 20:42, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
looking for the last final fantasy for computer that does not require on-line play —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.49.190.64 ( talk) 22:39, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Are there plans for one? FFIV DS was released one month ago in Japan. Hellcat fighter ( talk) 09:14, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
There is a way to finish the game in extremely low level (specifically lv 2, 2, 2, 3 or 2, 1, 1, 4) by a special combination of abilities and items, since boss characters grant no EXP and only a few enemies must be fought. While this could be sourced from 2 Chinese sites,( Fantastical Finality and [www.ffsky.com FFsky]) and is totally verifiable(anyone can try it for themselves by following the procedures). Should this be added into the article? Similar Game play could be played in FF VI, FF VIII and FF X-2 also. (In which the Ultimania guide of VIII and X-2 included the procedures of doing so) FF X Japanese version could be finished without using the sphere grid. But I guess I limit my question on FF V for now since it is the first game that could do so due to the job system. MythSearcher talk 17:46, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Noticed my (somewhat minor) corrections to the Story section have been reverted. Why? The information was innacurate; I know this game quite literally like the back of my hand. Played it through dozens of times. Check your facts.
This because I used a College IP?
Using my actual login this time, sorry for being lazy about that before.
Okay, I understand what you're saying about keeping things concise. Here though, it is at the expense of the accuracy of the information. Boko does NOT force Bartz to return for Lenna and Galuf; they continue in the direction they were originally going through an earthquake. Lenna and Galuf just happened to be there. They do NOT escape from Guido's Island before Exdeath sinks it; they are lifted out of the water by the Wind Drake. And they are dispatched to protect, not dispel the seals on the Crystals in the Master Tree; sadly they were attacked by the seals and forced to defend themselves, after which Exdeath turned up and took control of the Crystals. These facts are not reflected; indeed contrary impressions are given. This should be rectified, which is what I was about. I'm not going to do this again at risk of starting an edit war; we should try for consensus on this - I was under the impression Wikipedia was supposed to be accurate as a cornerstone policy? EDIT: Had another look, it seems I broke the page by mistake. I'll have a look at the situation. -- Targ Collective ( talk) 14:15, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
Kind of. I noticed a citation needed tag, and after searching the article, I found 17 citation needed tags. That's way too many for a GA, and it should've been picked up immediately. - A Link to the Past (talk) 03:50, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Result: delisted MuZemike 16:18, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
The article has large portions of content which is unsourced or poorly sourced (note: I have added additional {{ fact}}, {{ or}}, and {{ rs}} tags before this review to indicate content not backed by the next cited reliable source, original research, or user-generated unreliable sources.) It would not pass GA criterion #2. Also there seems to be undue weight on the Story section, which is too long and detailed compared to the rest of the content (goes against the MoS, failing criterion #1b). MuZemike 23:26, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
After a week and no substantial improvements to the article, I am delisting the article from GA status and reassessing as B-Class. Article can be renominated for GA after said improvements have been made. MuZemike 16:18, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm up to the Plot section right now in my comb-through of the article. My notebook is starting to run out of juice, so I'll have to pick this review up a little later. MuZemike 17:56, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
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It strikes me as odd that the article uses our translation for an article describing the original game. Shouldn't those screenshots show the Japanese version, since our version isn't official? Note that the one screenshot that has a caption mentioning that FF5 was one of the earliest fan translations is fine to leave as our version, since that's describing the fan translation. ("Our" because I was the reverse engineer on the RPGe team that did the FF5 fan translation.) -- Myria ( talk) 05:01, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
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the vulwe' 43.251.92.217 ( talk) 12:06, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
I only ask this as the image is at a pretty low resolution compared to the other SNES Final Fantasy games images for their articles like Final Fantasy IV and VI. File:Final Fantasy V Active Time Battle screenshot.png AerospaceCoot35 ( talk) 01:40, 22 August 2023 (UTC)