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Source here: http://www.games4all.it/articolo/final-fantasy-agito-xiii-su-iphone/8179/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.6.122.189 ( talk) 00:46, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
There are listed up twelve weapons (with fists and magical items) And its 12 people, but its listed up with longsword And katana, while guns are missing. (Do'h whats the guy at the top holding?). I'm not changing it since I cant say if its a longsword or katana from only the handle. I think its a longsword, but can someone agree with me that it is? -- 83.109.102.106 01:28, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Are you sure that picture belongs to FF13 Agito? I have never seen it and although it looks like square's art, I wanna see some links and verfication.
Since Latin is a 'dead' language, and much of english comes from latin roots, shouldn't it be "The english word agitate derives from agito"? 130.95.106.154 01:43, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
No, the name "agito" will stay in all releases, they will not change the name just because theres an english word that derives from the original. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.249.176.77 ( talk) 15:35, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
I changed the translation of the Latin "agito" given here. "To engage in motion" is right in its essentials, but its the wrong part of speech---"agito" is the present first-person singular, the "I" form, not the infinitive, which would be "agitare". -- Corbmobile 22:46, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Doesnt agito mean darkness aswell in japanese?
Is there any info on WHICH mobile phone platform will this game support? Is it the Japan's MOAP(S) or MOAP(L) or J2ME or something? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.217.205.206 ( talk) 08:31, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Alright, someone changed the picture's caption so it says the charcter wiht the tarot cards is female. If you had a reason change it, fel free to change it back, but explain why. It's an academy, it has a dress code. It's a guy.-- Onion Cloth ( talk) 22:07, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
It's been canceled, but there was still some info on the phone version. Now there isn't. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.150.48.182 ( talk) 18:58, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
Here's a link to some info about Agito. I don't know if it's in the article or not, and to tell the truth don't really have the time to check so have fun. :] [2]-- Adunian Prophet ( talk) 22:55, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
i don't know how to say it, but whenever i go to this article, its always hassle using roman numerals.
i find it much easier typing in final fantasy agito "13" than final fantasy agito "XIII"
can someone make it so that when u type in final fantasy agito 13 it would redirect to this page? they did it for final fantasy 13 and final fantasy versus 13, so why not this article? Haseo445 ( talk) 16:53, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
the plot says that a women wielding a whip sword puts a flag on the ground and her allies come in,
what i found strange about this is that you separated the hooded allies and her with the actual students.
the trailer continues on and shows the weapons of the hooded characters and they all have the same weapons the students had.
so really shouldn't you guys say that the hooded figures are the 12 students themselves?
You also say, one of them wields a whip sword but the description of the 12 students doesn't say that one of them actually wields a whip sword even though the one at the bottom right clearly shows wielding a whip sword. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.249.176.77 ( talk) 19:08, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Found this interesting, I'm not sure how reliable but if it is the last paragraph of this acticle could be interesting. This would also apply to any other game in Fabula Nova Crystalis then?
http://www.pushsquare.com/12157/final-fantasy-versus-xiii-to-focus-on-story-driven-gameplay/
203.164.130.154 ( talk) 07:38, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Surely this statement is incorrect. I know for a fact the PSP version of Clannad is on 2 UMDs, so it would at least be the third. 157.203.43.103 ( talk) 08:21, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Regarding this revert, I quote directly from the 1UP.com article:
And given that 1UP.com is fairly reliable, I don't understand the level of vitriol behind the latest reverts. -- MuZemike 23:18, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
That IP is back to removing the information repeatedly again, with no further explanation other than he doesn't think it's happening. I've asked him to discuss here again, but he seems to have yet again ignore that request so far.
I've attempted a new approach, making a "Localization" subsection in development and rewording some parts. Input/corrections are welcome. I think it's better this way actually, as before an awful lot of new information was being mentioned in the lead/intro paragraph without being discussed anywhere else in the article. Sergecross73 msg me 16:09, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
I've found some more sources supporting what 1UP.com was saying. Feel free to discuss or reword if you feel I haven't portrayed it accurately, but I still feel that the information that these sources have are necessary to have in the article. Any thoughts? Sergecross73 msg me 18:35, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
As far as I know, the IP in this right that "English" is capitalized. I fail to understand this silly and pointless edit war over this. -- MuZemike 21:56, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
In recent light of the Versus XIII cancellation rumors, I've decided to elimate all sections regarding the Vita rumor on the Type-0 page. Why, you ask? Because you all are eliminating anything the Versus XIII cancellation story. It's plain and fucking obvious you all are only keeping and editing what you PERSONALLY want, and not what is factual. It's been practically SIX MONTHS since the 1Up story - which, by the way, has not been elaborated on even remotely outside a single paragraph on that single article. Compared to the Kotaku article, which went into massive detail, and is even somewhat backed up by related matters reported by Andriasang, has CONSIDERABLY more merit than 1Up's hatchet-job. But, wait, no. There's no room for speculation, amirite? In fact, let's go through some of the quotes found on this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Final_Fantasy_Versus_XIII&action=history
"The cancellation issue has not been confirmed by Square Enix, and is only a rumor." "For the moment, it's rumour and speculation." "Wikipedia is not a rumor site."
Do I even have to point out how utterly hypocritical you all are being on here - how blatantly, brazenly selective you all are being? It's fucking disgraceful, is what it is. And people are starting to get wind of it. In case you've forgotten the wee bit of history, let me jog your memory: Type-0 on Vita is a rumor, but it's perfectly fine because (1Up) is a verifiable source, even though the article itself went through absolutely ZERO detail. However, Versus XIII's cancellation is unacceptable, because it's a rumor....ALSO posted by a verifiable source that went into great detail, both from development-side and business-side: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VG/S
You people are so full of shit, that I can only hope you've realized that just now. Longer short of it...you really have an ultimatum: Remove both on accounts of rumor and speculation, or ADD both on accounts of verifiable sources. There won't be any bullshit where you keep one and not the other over blatant fanboyism. This isn't a forum or fansite, it's an encyclopedia. -- 68.230.252.5 ( talk) 06:41, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
Does Reishiki mean Type 0? If not, please add the translation. Thanks. -- MK ( talk) 04:30, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
It means "Zero Type", literally. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.2.68.31 ( talk) 15:53, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
IP's keep on adding commentary about this fansite that is pushing for its localization. As much as I'd love an English version of the game, the typical approach to this sort of thing is to only mention such a fansite if its getting coverage in reliable, third party sources. I could be wrong, but I don't think this one is. Until its getting lots of coverage, like something like Operation Rainfall, I don't think it belongs in the article. Without it, it comes off as promotional, which is not acceptable. Thoughts? Sergecross73 msg me 14:59, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
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Change the release date of the PAL release (March 20, 2014) of it too March 20, 2015 Greatersphere ( talk) 17:02, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
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17:40, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
The 'Reception' portion is totally biased. All the great reviews are from biased websites. This game was not received well in america by users or critics. This is total product advertisement. And this also is basically an exhibit of good cover-art, while everyone pretends the actual gameplay was not lacking. Good job advertising this game, Wikipedia. I really hope moments like this are not someday used to define any possible commercial interest the Wikimedia Foundation could possibly have. Andiar.rohnds ( talk) 02:51, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
But the real honest truth about these video games can actually be found in user reviews. They are actually a credible source. Wikipedia obviously needs to review some of its policy on source material. Andiar.rohnds ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 03:09, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Japan is really pretentious and has lost its touch with video games. Japan hasn't produced a solid video game in 10 years. Some people pretend games like Dark Souls and Bloodborne are not mediocre and uninteresting garbage. But these games are actually perfect examples of the pretentious nature of biased video game critics. Of course, this may be considered opinion, but I honestly don't care anymore. Because this article is totally biased and not remaining factual. What are you going to do about it? Andiar.rohnds ( talk) 03:07, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
FYi - in case anyone is interested, there actually was a huge video game journalism scandal recently, which does actually discredit many so called "legitimate" sources and generally prove how biased the journalism field for video games can be. This all goes to show why wikipedia needs to update its policy on some creditable sources such as Steam. Andiar.rohnds ( talk) 03:25, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Andiar, while you make some good points about the status of the video game industry, the video game review press system and their intermingling, it has, as things stand, nothing to do whatsoever with this Wikipedia page.
As Wikipedia policy stands, this page is fine : it collates, and edits together reliable, published information on its subject. What makes something reliable is a point where, it seems for now, we'll have to agree to disagree. Valmoer ( talk) 12:25, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Yup, this actually is a pathetic technicality. This game really does suck ass, and the entire workings of this article, including the effort made to make it featured article, actually does have commercial interests and self promotion in mind. And this biased self promotion is succeeding, especially when being included on the front page of Wikipedia. Andiar.rohnds ( talk) 21:13, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Are you aware that typing "final fantasy type 0" in google brings up this page, as if it's the definite source for this game, and mentions nothing of other versions, right? There is a lot wrong with the workings behind this article and its FA status. I am positive these are made from commercial interest. Andiar.rohnds ( talk) 21:32, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
I'm sorry, is this EN wiki or JP wiki? More sales of the HD version on PC have been sold in America and europe than anywhere else, even more than japan PSP version (which i can prove). Now tell me why the hell english american google is bringing up the japan-only version of this game as the definitive source? Andiar.rohnds ( talk) 21:40, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Rat
Remember, it's the search engine result is what these failing pathetic japanese companies are looking for. They cant make good games anymore so they will literally just shit all over wikipedia instead :^) Andiar.rohnds ( talk) 21:47, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Gosh, I really hope this is all just coincidence and has nothing to do with the upcoming final fantasy game for Playstation 4 A lot of money is put into this, and Sony and square enix have really been doing poorly. This is why Wikipedia should really not be used here. Because you really can begin to question the Wikimedia Foundation and speculate if they have any real connection with this, weather if someone is 'donating' to them or if things are generally being overlooked in favor of these so called editors to have their article included as FA and on the front page at this convenient timing, and which have also manipulated google search results in favor of an irrelevant product. One of the people within this topic is also a wiki admin, and his biased intentions are obvious. Some people may think technicalities and policy-shopping can allow them to do whatever they wish, but I assure you there are real consequences for this. Andiar.rohnds ( talk) 22:20, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Let me also reiterate that the personal motivation I have behind this is how Japan as an entire nation has really been failing at video game design for the past 10 years. And it's literally the biased journalism which keeps them alive at this point. It's quite annoying because their bad games have been just poring in and they are always trying to influence gaming market, more so than anyone else. And more so than in any other point in history. This is not typical for market shenanigans. The balance is quite off, it's really just a pot hole of shitty games and corporate lies now. And you still have these annoying people who are trying to convince users that Japan is special mystical pretentious Asians, and their games are super deep. It's really nice to see this on the front page of Wikipedia, it really is. Andiar.rohnds ( talk) 22:54, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
OK Andiar, as you, very vocally, made your distate for generic answers and policy drama, so I'll aim to be as factual, specific, and blunt - yet civil - as I can, and try to answer your concerns.
I can see you're passionate about this subject, and, as I said earlier, you're maybe even right! There might be something deeply problematic with videogaming reviewing, SquarEnix might be the corporate vanguard of the Antechrist, and Type-0 might be the largest videoludic turd we've ever seen this past decade. Yet, the point still stands that Wikipedia, in the end, isn't (directly) about truth, it's about due process (Of course, it's our fondest wish and our daily labor that said process leads back to truthful statements) : your (potentially right) assertion isn't worth a damn if you can't back it up by reliable publications. And, as to what is or isn't a reliable publication... it has been discussed at length. If you think you can prove a source we've used isn't reliable and/or trustworthy, go to the noticeboards we linked, and make your case. Valmoer ( talk) 00:39, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 |
Source here: http://www.games4all.it/articolo/final-fantasy-agito-xiii-su-iphone/8179/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.6.122.189 ( talk) 00:46, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
There are listed up twelve weapons (with fists and magical items) And its 12 people, but its listed up with longsword And katana, while guns are missing. (Do'h whats the guy at the top holding?). I'm not changing it since I cant say if its a longsword or katana from only the handle. I think its a longsword, but can someone agree with me that it is? -- 83.109.102.106 01:28, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Are you sure that picture belongs to FF13 Agito? I have never seen it and although it looks like square's art, I wanna see some links and verfication.
Since Latin is a 'dead' language, and much of english comes from latin roots, shouldn't it be "The english word agitate derives from agito"? 130.95.106.154 01:43, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
No, the name "agito" will stay in all releases, they will not change the name just because theres an english word that derives from the original. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.249.176.77 ( talk) 15:35, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
I changed the translation of the Latin "agito" given here. "To engage in motion" is right in its essentials, but its the wrong part of speech---"agito" is the present first-person singular, the "I" form, not the infinitive, which would be "agitare". -- Corbmobile 22:46, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Doesnt agito mean darkness aswell in japanese?
Is there any info on WHICH mobile phone platform will this game support? Is it the Japan's MOAP(S) or MOAP(L) or J2ME or something? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.217.205.206 ( talk) 08:31, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Alright, someone changed the picture's caption so it says the charcter wiht the tarot cards is female. If you had a reason change it, fel free to change it back, but explain why. It's an academy, it has a dress code. It's a guy.-- Onion Cloth ( talk) 22:07, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
It's been canceled, but there was still some info on the phone version. Now there isn't. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.150.48.182 ( talk) 18:58, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
Here's a link to some info about Agito. I don't know if it's in the article or not, and to tell the truth don't really have the time to check so have fun. :] [2]-- Adunian Prophet ( talk) 22:55, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
i don't know how to say it, but whenever i go to this article, its always hassle using roman numerals.
i find it much easier typing in final fantasy agito "13" than final fantasy agito "XIII"
can someone make it so that when u type in final fantasy agito 13 it would redirect to this page? they did it for final fantasy 13 and final fantasy versus 13, so why not this article? Haseo445 ( talk) 16:53, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
the plot says that a women wielding a whip sword puts a flag on the ground and her allies come in,
what i found strange about this is that you separated the hooded allies and her with the actual students.
the trailer continues on and shows the weapons of the hooded characters and they all have the same weapons the students had.
so really shouldn't you guys say that the hooded figures are the 12 students themselves?
You also say, one of them wields a whip sword but the description of the 12 students doesn't say that one of them actually wields a whip sword even though the one at the bottom right clearly shows wielding a whip sword. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.249.176.77 ( talk) 19:08, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Found this interesting, I'm not sure how reliable but if it is the last paragraph of this acticle could be interesting. This would also apply to any other game in Fabula Nova Crystalis then?
http://www.pushsquare.com/12157/final-fantasy-versus-xiii-to-focus-on-story-driven-gameplay/
203.164.130.154 ( talk) 07:38, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Surely this statement is incorrect. I know for a fact the PSP version of Clannad is on 2 UMDs, so it would at least be the third. 157.203.43.103 ( talk) 08:21, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Regarding this revert, I quote directly from the 1UP.com article:
And given that 1UP.com is fairly reliable, I don't understand the level of vitriol behind the latest reverts. -- MuZemike 23:18, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
That IP is back to removing the information repeatedly again, with no further explanation other than he doesn't think it's happening. I've asked him to discuss here again, but he seems to have yet again ignore that request so far.
I've attempted a new approach, making a "Localization" subsection in development and rewording some parts. Input/corrections are welcome. I think it's better this way actually, as before an awful lot of new information was being mentioned in the lead/intro paragraph without being discussed anywhere else in the article. Sergecross73 msg me 16:09, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
I've found some more sources supporting what 1UP.com was saying. Feel free to discuss or reword if you feel I haven't portrayed it accurately, but I still feel that the information that these sources have are necessary to have in the article. Any thoughts? Sergecross73 msg me 18:35, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
As far as I know, the IP in this right that "English" is capitalized. I fail to understand this silly and pointless edit war over this. -- MuZemike 21:56, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
In recent light of the Versus XIII cancellation rumors, I've decided to elimate all sections regarding the Vita rumor on the Type-0 page. Why, you ask? Because you all are eliminating anything the Versus XIII cancellation story. It's plain and fucking obvious you all are only keeping and editing what you PERSONALLY want, and not what is factual. It's been practically SIX MONTHS since the 1Up story - which, by the way, has not been elaborated on even remotely outside a single paragraph on that single article. Compared to the Kotaku article, which went into massive detail, and is even somewhat backed up by related matters reported by Andriasang, has CONSIDERABLY more merit than 1Up's hatchet-job. But, wait, no. There's no room for speculation, amirite? In fact, let's go through some of the quotes found on this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Final_Fantasy_Versus_XIII&action=history
"The cancellation issue has not been confirmed by Square Enix, and is only a rumor." "For the moment, it's rumour and speculation." "Wikipedia is not a rumor site."
Do I even have to point out how utterly hypocritical you all are being on here - how blatantly, brazenly selective you all are being? It's fucking disgraceful, is what it is. And people are starting to get wind of it. In case you've forgotten the wee bit of history, let me jog your memory: Type-0 on Vita is a rumor, but it's perfectly fine because (1Up) is a verifiable source, even though the article itself went through absolutely ZERO detail. However, Versus XIII's cancellation is unacceptable, because it's a rumor....ALSO posted by a verifiable source that went into great detail, both from development-side and business-side: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VG/S
You people are so full of shit, that I can only hope you've realized that just now. Longer short of it...you really have an ultimatum: Remove both on accounts of rumor and speculation, or ADD both on accounts of verifiable sources. There won't be any bullshit where you keep one and not the other over blatant fanboyism. This isn't a forum or fansite, it's an encyclopedia. -- 68.230.252.5 ( talk) 06:41, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
Does Reishiki mean Type 0? If not, please add the translation. Thanks. -- MK ( talk) 04:30, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
It means "Zero Type", literally. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.2.68.31 ( talk) 15:53, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
IP's keep on adding commentary about this fansite that is pushing for its localization. As much as I'd love an English version of the game, the typical approach to this sort of thing is to only mention such a fansite if its getting coverage in reliable, third party sources. I could be wrong, but I don't think this one is. Until its getting lots of coverage, like something like Operation Rainfall, I don't think it belongs in the article. Without it, it comes off as promotional, which is not acceptable. Thoughts? Sergecross73 msg me 14:59, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
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Change the release date of the PAL release (March 20, 2014) of it too March 20, 2015 Greatersphere ( talk) 17:02, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
Done - by another -
Arjayay (
talk)
17:40, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
The 'Reception' portion is totally biased. All the great reviews are from biased websites. This game was not received well in america by users or critics. This is total product advertisement. And this also is basically an exhibit of good cover-art, while everyone pretends the actual gameplay was not lacking. Good job advertising this game, Wikipedia. I really hope moments like this are not someday used to define any possible commercial interest the Wikimedia Foundation could possibly have. Andiar.rohnds ( talk) 02:51, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
But the real honest truth about these video games can actually be found in user reviews. They are actually a credible source. Wikipedia obviously needs to review some of its policy on source material. Andiar.rohnds ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 03:09, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Japan is really pretentious and has lost its touch with video games. Japan hasn't produced a solid video game in 10 years. Some people pretend games like Dark Souls and Bloodborne are not mediocre and uninteresting garbage. But these games are actually perfect examples of the pretentious nature of biased video game critics. Of course, this may be considered opinion, but I honestly don't care anymore. Because this article is totally biased and not remaining factual. What are you going to do about it? Andiar.rohnds ( talk) 03:07, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
FYi - in case anyone is interested, there actually was a huge video game journalism scandal recently, which does actually discredit many so called "legitimate" sources and generally prove how biased the journalism field for video games can be. This all goes to show why wikipedia needs to update its policy on some creditable sources such as Steam. Andiar.rohnds ( talk) 03:25, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Andiar, while you make some good points about the status of the video game industry, the video game review press system and their intermingling, it has, as things stand, nothing to do whatsoever with this Wikipedia page.
As Wikipedia policy stands, this page is fine : it collates, and edits together reliable, published information on its subject. What makes something reliable is a point where, it seems for now, we'll have to agree to disagree. Valmoer ( talk) 12:25, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Yup, this actually is a pathetic technicality. This game really does suck ass, and the entire workings of this article, including the effort made to make it featured article, actually does have commercial interests and self promotion in mind. And this biased self promotion is succeeding, especially when being included on the front page of Wikipedia. Andiar.rohnds ( talk) 21:13, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Are you aware that typing "final fantasy type 0" in google brings up this page, as if it's the definite source for this game, and mentions nothing of other versions, right? There is a lot wrong with the workings behind this article and its FA status. I am positive these are made from commercial interest. Andiar.rohnds ( talk) 21:32, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
I'm sorry, is this EN wiki or JP wiki? More sales of the HD version on PC have been sold in America and europe than anywhere else, even more than japan PSP version (which i can prove). Now tell me why the hell english american google is bringing up the japan-only version of this game as the definitive source? Andiar.rohnds ( talk) 21:40, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Rat
Remember, it's the search engine result is what these failing pathetic japanese companies are looking for. They cant make good games anymore so they will literally just shit all over wikipedia instead :^) Andiar.rohnds ( talk) 21:47, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Gosh, I really hope this is all just coincidence and has nothing to do with the upcoming final fantasy game for Playstation 4 A lot of money is put into this, and Sony and square enix have really been doing poorly. This is why Wikipedia should really not be used here. Because you really can begin to question the Wikimedia Foundation and speculate if they have any real connection with this, weather if someone is 'donating' to them or if things are generally being overlooked in favor of these so called editors to have their article included as FA and on the front page at this convenient timing, and which have also manipulated google search results in favor of an irrelevant product. One of the people within this topic is also a wiki admin, and his biased intentions are obvious. Some people may think technicalities and policy-shopping can allow them to do whatever they wish, but I assure you there are real consequences for this. Andiar.rohnds ( talk) 22:20, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Let me also reiterate that the personal motivation I have behind this is how Japan as an entire nation has really been failing at video game design for the past 10 years. And it's literally the biased journalism which keeps them alive at this point. It's quite annoying because their bad games have been just poring in and they are always trying to influence gaming market, more so than anyone else. And more so than in any other point in history. This is not typical for market shenanigans. The balance is quite off, it's really just a pot hole of shitty games and corporate lies now. And you still have these annoying people who are trying to convince users that Japan is special mystical pretentious Asians, and their games are super deep. It's really nice to see this on the front page of Wikipedia, it really is. Andiar.rohnds ( talk) 22:54, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
OK Andiar, as you, very vocally, made your distate for generic answers and policy drama, so I'll aim to be as factual, specific, and blunt - yet civil - as I can, and try to answer your concerns.
I can see you're passionate about this subject, and, as I said earlier, you're maybe even right! There might be something deeply problematic with videogaming reviewing, SquarEnix might be the corporate vanguard of the Antechrist, and Type-0 might be the largest videoludic turd we've ever seen this past decade. Yet, the point still stands that Wikipedia, in the end, isn't (directly) about truth, it's about due process (Of course, it's our fondest wish and our daily labor that said process leads back to truthful statements) : your (potentially right) assertion isn't worth a damn if you can't back it up by reliable publications. And, as to what is or isn't a reliable publication... it has been discussed at length. If you think you can prove a source we've used isn't reliable and/or trustworthy, go to the noticeboards we linked, and make your case. Valmoer ( talk) 00:39, 18 March 2016 (UTC)