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Can the image of the "three overworld sprites" of Culex be taken out? Perhaps if it were just one image of the sprite, that'd be fine, but to have three sprites that look exactly the same... it seems odd. Also, the placement of the image is a bit distracting in contrast to the text. Quietchild 05:09, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
There is currently only one cultural refrence, to Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars, and the section needs to be expanded. Taric25 23:09, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
For some reason, when Final Fantasy is typed in on Search, it redirects you to a page linking to "Insert Key," or at least on my computer. I managed to change this (I think, anyway) but I was wondering how it happened. 80.229.151.116 16:31, 7 February 2007 (UTC)(Chocobo Knight)
I did a major cleanup of this section. I didn't delete much, but I did move a lot of stuff into footnotes. I would have no problem if somebody else went through and deleted a lot of the notes, but as I have said in the past, the details will just creep back in over time. Comments? wrp103 (Bill Pringle) 03:03, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
I moved most of the footnotes into the detailed articles. I also deleted the wings item. If somebody feels strongly that it should be included, I suggest you create an article and then link to it from the list. Personally, I think the common theme is more feathers than wings, but I haven't thought about it that much.
I would like to see many of the other details in this article moved to more detailed articles. IMHO, this article should provide a broad overview to acquaint the reader with the series, with links to articles where they can read about the details. wrp103 (Bill Pringle) 05:03, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
"More feathers than wings"? I would like an example of a game where the symbology is feathers and not wings. Every instance I can think of has displayed full sets of wings. I do feel strongly that wings should be mentioned alongside the other Themes and Motifs. Wings have appeared as a symbol in FF VI thru X (that I know of off the top of my head at least). -- Daedalus 04:18, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Is anyone aware of this page's creation? To my understanding this page should not exist, and I haven't seen any discussion for it's creation. It was also inserted into the FF Navbox without discussion. -- Daedalus 20:57, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
In the article it states that there are no random monster encounters while flying. However, in the re-released version of Final Fantasy III, it is possible to have encounters while flying, they are just very rare. And, also, I am fairly ceertian that in Final Fantasy VI, there may be encounters while flying (or perhaps that was just a boss?). Please confirm this. RHSB Scipio 20:34, 19 February 2007 (UTC)RHSB Scipio
How about this sentence: As of Winter 2006, twelve games have been released as part of the main (numbered) series. - Has the person who wrote this actually taken Final Fantasy X-2 into account ? Kwyxz 17:35, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Help me out here, because I'm confused about every point you have made:
-- Daedalus 21:43, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Not many places where a debate like this would actually be relevant. :-) But, I have to agree with both authors here. There is clearly a distinction between the games that Nicholas refers to as the "main numbered games" and spin-offs and true sequels of those games. Square Soft clearly meant to make such a distinction when they named FFX-2 the way they did. On the other hand, the wording being debated here is questionable, as it is not necessarily clear what is meant by "main numbered series" and it isn't a term you generally see from any primary or secondary sources. I'm not sure what a good wording would be, though. Maybe something like, "Currently the series includes twelve games titled Final Fantasy I through Final Fantasy XII. The series also includes a number of sequels and spin-offs of those twelve games, such as Final Fantasy X-2, Final Fantasy : RW." Nimrand 06:56, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
I took a stab at this. As always, tweaks are expected. ;^) wrp103 (Bill Pringle) 18:29, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I'm thinking about copyediting this article as I know about the series, so please help me out here if I'm doing anything seriously objectionable. Stuff I intend to work on:
Does anyone have any other suggestions? If not, I'll get to it tomorrow or the day after. (by the way, apart from the stuff I've mentioned, it's a really good article! Well done the people who wrote it!)- Froglet42 13:03, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Actually, per WP:LEAD and experience, the intro is perfect for an article this size, and a LOT shorter than others covering this range of topics. A Gameplay of Final Fantasy subarticle is in the works. — Deckill er 16:12, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
This seems to request that it would be possible in 1997 to produce a catridge that could hold 1.8gb or whatever the size of the FF7 was. I'm somewhat doubtful and the Nintendo 64 article appears to suggest so as well. At the very least, multiple catridges would probably have been necessary (if this was possible) Nil Einne 13:33, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
It was definitely possible to make something that would have plugged into a cartridge port and held 1+ GB of data, see the Jaz drive of the era for one thing, it held as much as 2 gigabytes on a cartridge-sized medium. But this would have made for a more expensive console and a much more expensive cartridge. I doubt such a thing would have worked with the N64 as shipped though, it would have needed extra capabilities on the console. This wouldn't really have been prohibitively expensive, it would have just been more expensive (and needed more careful handling, had slower read times, etc.) and Nintendo didn't pursue it. Nintendo gambled that people didn't want video that much, basically. -- W.marsh 01:24, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
This needs to be nipped in the bud before it turns into a huge cruft list. One sentence is fine, stating "The series has been featured in popular culture and other games", and maybe a mention of kingdom hearts. A link to a site listing all instances of the series in popular culture is also good here. But nip it in the bud, please. — Deckill er 15:55, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Someone removed the citations template several days ago, claiming that the information in the article is "common knowledge" and didn't need citations. Clearly, however, the aricle needs more citations for many reasons. Here are just a few:
Also, as I've said many times before, a Footnote is not necessarily a citation. So, please don't just count the number of footnotes at the bottom of the article and say that we have plenty of citations. As far as I could tell, we only have five citations.
The article is better now than it was a few months ago, but it still needs work in this area. We will most likely need to address this issue before this article could attain A or GA status.
Also, if you would like the template to be less obtrusive, we may want to move it to the bottom of the article. Nimrand 21:08, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
The main theme is not Prelude, as it is not in every Final Fantasy, do some research. The main theme is actually called FINAL FANTASY(yes all capitals), and DOES appear in every game including spin offs, whether it is the intro, during the game, or in the credits it is the only song to appear in every final fantasy game and movie. Signed, Annonymous. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.110.31.215 ( talk • contribs) 04:15, 2 April 2007.
I noticed that you have an external link to the Open Directory project's Final Fantasy category.
The category at BOTW is as comprehensive - http://botw.org/top/Games/Video_Games/Roleplaying/Final_Fantasy_Series/
I was going to place the following in the external links section, but saw the discussion message:
Thanks for the consideration.
MisterCharlie 21:04, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Result was withdrawn, no consensus to move <result>
Final Fantasy (series) → Final Fantasy — Final Fantasy redirects here. Common usage with anything else already disambig. Simply south 10:57, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Should it be added that recently Square stated that they are planning on re-releasing remakes of old games and creating sequels to them?-- 67.174.128.249 16:57, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
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Can the image of the "three overworld sprites" of Culex be taken out? Perhaps if it were just one image of the sprite, that'd be fine, but to have three sprites that look exactly the same... it seems odd. Also, the placement of the image is a bit distracting in contrast to the text. Quietchild 05:09, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
There is currently only one cultural refrence, to Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars, and the section needs to be expanded. Taric25 23:09, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
For some reason, when Final Fantasy is typed in on Search, it redirects you to a page linking to "Insert Key," or at least on my computer. I managed to change this (I think, anyway) but I was wondering how it happened. 80.229.151.116 16:31, 7 February 2007 (UTC)(Chocobo Knight)
I did a major cleanup of this section. I didn't delete much, but I did move a lot of stuff into footnotes. I would have no problem if somebody else went through and deleted a lot of the notes, but as I have said in the past, the details will just creep back in over time. Comments? wrp103 (Bill Pringle) 03:03, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
I moved most of the footnotes into the detailed articles. I also deleted the wings item. If somebody feels strongly that it should be included, I suggest you create an article and then link to it from the list. Personally, I think the common theme is more feathers than wings, but I haven't thought about it that much.
I would like to see many of the other details in this article moved to more detailed articles. IMHO, this article should provide a broad overview to acquaint the reader with the series, with links to articles where they can read about the details. wrp103 (Bill Pringle) 05:03, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
"More feathers than wings"? I would like an example of a game where the symbology is feathers and not wings. Every instance I can think of has displayed full sets of wings. I do feel strongly that wings should be mentioned alongside the other Themes and Motifs. Wings have appeared as a symbol in FF VI thru X (that I know of off the top of my head at least). -- Daedalus 04:18, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Is anyone aware of this page's creation? To my understanding this page should not exist, and I haven't seen any discussion for it's creation. It was also inserted into the FF Navbox without discussion. -- Daedalus 20:57, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
In the article it states that there are no random monster encounters while flying. However, in the re-released version of Final Fantasy III, it is possible to have encounters while flying, they are just very rare. And, also, I am fairly ceertian that in Final Fantasy VI, there may be encounters while flying (or perhaps that was just a boss?). Please confirm this. RHSB Scipio 20:34, 19 February 2007 (UTC)RHSB Scipio
How about this sentence: As of Winter 2006, twelve games have been released as part of the main (numbered) series. - Has the person who wrote this actually taken Final Fantasy X-2 into account ? Kwyxz 17:35, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Help me out here, because I'm confused about every point you have made:
-- Daedalus 21:43, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Not many places where a debate like this would actually be relevant. :-) But, I have to agree with both authors here. There is clearly a distinction between the games that Nicholas refers to as the "main numbered games" and spin-offs and true sequels of those games. Square Soft clearly meant to make such a distinction when they named FFX-2 the way they did. On the other hand, the wording being debated here is questionable, as it is not necessarily clear what is meant by "main numbered series" and it isn't a term you generally see from any primary or secondary sources. I'm not sure what a good wording would be, though. Maybe something like, "Currently the series includes twelve games titled Final Fantasy I through Final Fantasy XII. The series also includes a number of sequels and spin-offs of those twelve games, such as Final Fantasy X-2, Final Fantasy : RW." Nimrand 06:56, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
I took a stab at this. As always, tweaks are expected. ;^) wrp103 (Bill Pringle) 18:29, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I'm thinking about copyediting this article as I know about the series, so please help me out here if I'm doing anything seriously objectionable. Stuff I intend to work on:
Does anyone have any other suggestions? If not, I'll get to it tomorrow or the day after. (by the way, apart from the stuff I've mentioned, it's a really good article! Well done the people who wrote it!)- Froglet42 13:03, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Actually, per WP:LEAD and experience, the intro is perfect for an article this size, and a LOT shorter than others covering this range of topics. A Gameplay of Final Fantasy subarticle is in the works. — Deckill er 16:12, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
This seems to request that it would be possible in 1997 to produce a catridge that could hold 1.8gb or whatever the size of the FF7 was. I'm somewhat doubtful and the Nintendo 64 article appears to suggest so as well. At the very least, multiple catridges would probably have been necessary (if this was possible) Nil Einne 13:33, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
It was definitely possible to make something that would have plugged into a cartridge port and held 1+ GB of data, see the Jaz drive of the era for one thing, it held as much as 2 gigabytes on a cartridge-sized medium. But this would have made for a more expensive console and a much more expensive cartridge. I doubt such a thing would have worked with the N64 as shipped though, it would have needed extra capabilities on the console. This wouldn't really have been prohibitively expensive, it would have just been more expensive (and needed more careful handling, had slower read times, etc.) and Nintendo didn't pursue it. Nintendo gambled that people didn't want video that much, basically. -- W.marsh 01:24, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
This needs to be nipped in the bud before it turns into a huge cruft list. One sentence is fine, stating "The series has been featured in popular culture and other games", and maybe a mention of kingdom hearts. A link to a site listing all instances of the series in popular culture is also good here. But nip it in the bud, please. — Deckill er 15:55, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Someone removed the citations template several days ago, claiming that the information in the article is "common knowledge" and didn't need citations. Clearly, however, the aricle needs more citations for many reasons. Here are just a few:
Also, as I've said many times before, a Footnote is not necessarily a citation. So, please don't just count the number of footnotes at the bottom of the article and say that we have plenty of citations. As far as I could tell, we only have five citations.
The article is better now than it was a few months ago, but it still needs work in this area. We will most likely need to address this issue before this article could attain A or GA status.
Also, if you would like the template to be less obtrusive, we may want to move it to the bottom of the article. Nimrand 21:08, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
The main theme is not Prelude, as it is not in every Final Fantasy, do some research. The main theme is actually called FINAL FANTASY(yes all capitals), and DOES appear in every game including spin offs, whether it is the intro, during the game, or in the credits it is the only song to appear in every final fantasy game and movie. Signed, Annonymous. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.110.31.215 ( talk • contribs) 04:15, 2 April 2007.
I noticed that you have an external link to the Open Directory project's Final Fantasy category.
The category at BOTW is as comprehensive - http://botw.org/top/Games/Video_Games/Roleplaying/Final_Fantasy_Series/
I was going to place the following in the external links section, but saw the discussion message:
Thanks for the consideration.
MisterCharlie 21:04, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Result was withdrawn, no consensus to move <result>
Final Fantasy (series) → Final Fantasy — Final Fantasy redirects here. Common usage with anything else already disambig. Simply south 10:57, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Should it be added that recently Square stated that they are planning on re-releasing remakes of old games and creating sequels to them?-- 67.174.128.249 16:57, 21 April 2007 (UTC)