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If Filimer chased the witches that became the mothers of the Huns, how can he fit in in the late 2nd century AD? Jordanes places this guy in the very distant past, way before Pythagoras. / Pieter Kuiper 21:25, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
I wonder why Pieter Kuiper removed the interesting diachronic map on this page. His argument that it is "anachronistic" does not sound very convincing since it is diachronic.-- Berig 18:36, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
On August 8, 2007, User:Pieter Kuiper wrote the following version:
I am afraid that I can find no support in the reference for any of this information.-- Berig ( talk) 14:42, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Was Berig struck with blindness? Or is this nitpicking about a few years between the defeat of Witiges and Jordanes writing the Getica? The reference to the phrase that Berig removed should be clear enough: And thus a famous kingdom and most valiant race, which had long held sway, was at last overcome in almost its two thousand and thirtieth year by that conquerer of many nations, the Emperor Justinian, through his most faithful consul Belisarius. / Pieter Kuiper ( talk) 15:09, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
The article asserts that 'Filimer' means "very famous" with a reference to a website by some "Þeedrich Yeat". Immediate question: what language might that be? / Pieter Kuiper ( talk) 17:09, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Berig, I noticed the tag. But when you place a POV tag you should also give an explanation on the talk page giving a definition of the problem. You mention cherry-picked quotes, but it is not immediately obvious who you would be referring to. The Christensen source is one of the main Jordanes commentaries of our time, and widely cited, and the other two are very well-known historians for this period. Possibly, you feel the short style does not do justice to the topic. But if expansion is what's needed, then you've used the wrong tag? Biggest problem I see does not seem to be based on any source, which is the mention of archaeological cultures. Fillimer would have been centuries before those if Jordanes was correct, so I can now see how we can connect him to such a culture, and I don't know of any source which does that. In any case, can you please define the POV problem a bit?-- Andrew Lancaster ( talk) 16:31, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
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If Filimer chased the witches that became the mothers of the Huns, how can he fit in in the late 2nd century AD? Jordanes places this guy in the very distant past, way before Pythagoras. / Pieter Kuiper 21:25, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
I wonder why Pieter Kuiper removed the interesting diachronic map on this page. His argument that it is "anachronistic" does not sound very convincing since it is diachronic.-- Berig 18:36, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
On August 8, 2007, User:Pieter Kuiper wrote the following version:
I am afraid that I can find no support in the reference for any of this information.-- Berig ( talk) 14:42, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Was Berig struck with blindness? Or is this nitpicking about a few years between the defeat of Witiges and Jordanes writing the Getica? The reference to the phrase that Berig removed should be clear enough: And thus a famous kingdom and most valiant race, which had long held sway, was at last overcome in almost its two thousand and thirtieth year by that conquerer of many nations, the Emperor Justinian, through his most faithful consul Belisarius. / Pieter Kuiper ( talk) 15:09, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
The article asserts that 'Filimer' means "very famous" with a reference to a website by some "Þeedrich Yeat". Immediate question: what language might that be? / Pieter Kuiper ( talk) 17:09, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Berig, I noticed the tag. But when you place a POV tag you should also give an explanation on the talk page giving a definition of the problem. You mention cherry-picked quotes, but it is not immediately obvious who you would be referring to. The Christensen source is one of the main Jordanes commentaries of our time, and widely cited, and the other two are very well-known historians for this period. Possibly, you feel the short style does not do justice to the topic. But if expansion is what's needed, then you've used the wrong tag? Biggest problem I see does not seem to be based on any source, which is the mention of archaeological cultures. Fillimer would have been centuries before those if Jordanes was correct, so I can now see how we can connect him to such a culture, and I don't know of any source which does that. In any case, can you please define the POV problem a bit?-- Andrew Lancaster ( talk) 16:31, 27 March 2021 (UTC)