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The introduction of the article should be
Fightstar is a British alternative rock band from London, formed in 2003.
as 'Fightstar' refers to the band as a unit. Treating 'Fightstar' as a plural noun is only grammatically acceptable when referring to the members of the band. ~Peter Dzubay ( talk) 04:46, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
I've tried to add Busted as an associated act for years, but it keeps being removed. 2A02:C7D:5BA8:1800:742B:CCA4:6AF7:BFE7 ( talk) 14:26, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
The Busted page needs Fightstar removed then 2A02:C7D:5BF3:8500:CDC7:8618:91C6:325F ( talk) 02:24, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
I thought I'd open this up to the editors. There's been some debate on the inclusion of teamrock.com's opinion piece on why Busted reformed. Personally, I don't think it belongs in a Wikipedia article as it appears to lean in bias toward this idea Simpson rejoined the pop band for financial gain which he has denied in the past. I'm not too knowledgeable on the source either, but is teamrock.com acceptable according to Wikipedia standards? I thought it would be something of a minority source, and I can't seem to find anything online to back up the author's claim.
Also, I'm happy to include it if majority decides but could we also get something similar to the Busted page with direct quotes from Simpson in regards to his decision? Something similar to this line?
Regarding his decision to rejoin the band, Simpson told Newsbeat: "I reckon I said it [so many times], privately and publicly, and I meant it every single time. But as I say I have changed my mind and that has been down to the circumstances changing. I never thought we would get to a point where we were in a studio writing music we all got behind creatively and that was a huge shock to me". [1]
Thanks guys!
Bottomlivefan95 ( talk) 13:58, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Hi Danny, happy to meet in the middle there using that source you provided. Are you okay to write it up and I'll check on it later? Thanks for providing info on teamrock.com. Once again, discussion still open for any other contributors out there!
Bottomlivefan95 (
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15:34, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Agreed with Sergecross. If this can be edited in such a way that we include both reasons, I'm happy. Although, I am wary of including speculation on a Wikipedia article rather than official statements. I concede that it is something debated amongst the band's community but until a member of Fightstar or Busted outright state something contrary to what Simpson has said in interviews, I don't really think it is needed. The section ending on:
On 10 November 2015 Simpson reunited with Busted to record new music and tour,[78] saying that Fightstar would continue to tour and release music as a "passion project" for its members.[79]
is actually a good stopping point until Fightstar's next project.
But again, as a compromise has been made I am more than happy to see it included. Thanks for your input.
Bottomlivefan95 ( talk) 17:05, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
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@ DannyMusicEditor: What is needed for alternative metal to be included in the infobox? More sources? If so, I can find more sources. Bowling is life ( talk) 03:36, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
How is Fightstar an "associated act" on Busted's page, but not the other way round? Either have both bands as associated bands or neither. 2A02:C7D:5BF3:8500:CDC5:DD29:7029:97A0 ( talk) 17:13, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
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The introduction of the article should be
Fightstar is a British alternative rock band from London, formed in 2003.
as 'Fightstar' refers to the band as a unit. Treating 'Fightstar' as a plural noun is only grammatically acceptable when referring to the members of the band. ~Peter Dzubay ( talk) 04:46, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
I've tried to add Busted as an associated act for years, but it keeps being removed. 2A02:C7D:5BA8:1800:742B:CCA4:6AF7:BFE7 ( talk) 14:26, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
The Busted page needs Fightstar removed then 2A02:C7D:5BF3:8500:CDC7:8618:91C6:325F ( talk) 02:24, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
I thought I'd open this up to the editors. There's been some debate on the inclusion of teamrock.com's opinion piece on why Busted reformed. Personally, I don't think it belongs in a Wikipedia article as it appears to lean in bias toward this idea Simpson rejoined the pop band for financial gain which he has denied in the past. I'm not too knowledgeable on the source either, but is teamrock.com acceptable according to Wikipedia standards? I thought it would be something of a minority source, and I can't seem to find anything online to back up the author's claim.
Also, I'm happy to include it if majority decides but could we also get something similar to the Busted page with direct quotes from Simpson in regards to his decision? Something similar to this line?
Regarding his decision to rejoin the band, Simpson told Newsbeat: "I reckon I said it [so many times], privately and publicly, and I meant it every single time. But as I say I have changed my mind and that has been down to the circumstances changing. I never thought we would get to a point where we were in a studio writing music we all got behind creatively and that was a huge shock to me". [1]
Thanks guys!
Bottomlivefan95 ( talk) 13:58, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Hi Danny, happy to meet in the middle there using that source you provided. Are you okay to write it up and I'll check on it later? Thanks for providing info on teamrock.com. Once again, discussion still open for any other contributors out there!
Bottomlivefan95 (
talk)
15:34, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Agreed with Sergecross. If this can be edited in such a way that we include both reasons, I'm happy. Although, I am wary of including speculation on a Wikipedia article rather than official statements. I concede that it is something debated amongst the band's community but until a member of Fightstar or Busted outright state something contrary to what Simpson has said in interviews, I don't really think it is needed. The section ending on:
On 10 November 2015 Simpson reunited with Busted to record new music and tour,[78] saying that Fightstar would continue to tour and release music as a "passion project" for its members.[79]
is actually a good stopping point until Fightstar's next project.
But again, as a compromise has been made I am more than happy to see it included. Thanks for your input.
Bottomlivefan95 ( talk) 17:05, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
References
@ DannyMusicEditor: What is needed for alternative metal to be included in the infobox? More sources? If so, I can find more sources. Bowling is life ( talk) 03:36, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
How is Fightstar an "associated act" on Busted's page, but not the other way round? Either have both bands as associated bands or neither. 2A02:C7D:5BF3:8500:CDC5:DD29:7029:97A0 ( talk) 17:13, 29 June 2018 (UTC)