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Someone keeps reverting the terminology in the lead paragraph to read "In most countries, it is known simply as hockey'". This is incorrect; field hockey is generally known as "hockey" only in the UK and a few of its former colonies. Elsewhere, it needs to be described as "field hockey" (or a local language equivalent) in order to be disambiguated from other forms of hockey, particularly ice hockey, which is significantly more popular in many parts of the world (North America, Continental Europe, Russia, etc.). If someone wants to make the claim that field hockey is is known as simply hockey "in most countries," some evidence needs to be provided. For now, I'm changing "most countries" back to "some countries". -- WorldWide Update ( talk) 09:55, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
It is not incorrect to say 'In most countries [field hockey],...is known simply as hockey'. As I write, I am watching the Hockey World Cup. It is field hockey. The the International Hockey Federation (FIH) has 126 members compared with the 77-member International Ice Hockey Federation (IIHF) as stated in the Wikipedia article about hockey. Both governing bodies therefore, agree on the terminology. I know North Americans are passionate about the fine sport of ice hockey and think it is a more manly game (though this would be an extremely dubious assertion to anyone who has played top level field hockey), but it is a variant. Calling ice hockey 'hockey' is the equivalent of calling water polo 'polo' or beach volleyball 'volleyball'. Iggyc61 ( talk) 00:54, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
It makes me smile to read these constant demands that North American usage should prevail whatever the circumstances on Wikipedia. Often this is accompanied by assertions that their usage is the majority so should be used. Even if this assertion were true (normally dubious), then if we are to follow majority usage North Americans should follow majority world usage and stop calling the ground floor the first floor, stop calling football soccer, and use dates in the common format DYM (63%) or even YMD (32%) rather than MDY (3%)! DickyP ( talk) 09:49, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Sorry guys, Canada owns hockey and their way goes. Hockey == ice hockey. That's just how it is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:449:C200:CDBF:4498:B56A:62BE:2130 ( talk) 20:59, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
This sentence is just left hanging, without context or explanation.
I suggest we work the following into the text: "Field hockey, a mostly male-dominated game in Europe, is almost exclusively played by girls in the US due to the passing of Title IX in 1972, which prohibits sex-based discrimination in public schools and made field hockey a counterweight to boys’ football." [1] CapnZapp ( talk) 14:51, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
In third paragraph: "the term "field hockey" (and sometimes "grass hockey" informally) is used primarily in Canada and the United States where ice hockey is more popular.
I don't think adding the words (and sometimes "grass hockey" informally) is too disruptive to the field hockey world outside Canada and the United States. Thoughts? Google "grass hockey" -> About 50,200 results (0.56 seconds) Facts707 ( talk) 20:12, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
Most hockey is played on artificial surface like 2G astroturf so grass not really appropriate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.99.178.220 ( talk) 12:11, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
There is Wikipedia:WikiProject Ice Hockey, as I suppose I would expect, but field hockey doesn't have a WikiProject. Would anyone be interested in forming it?
Sistorian ( talk) 04:46, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
I have been doing what I can to try and resolve some of the issues which mostly concern both lack and reliability of sources. I am going to be away for a lengthy period after today but, if anyone can help with the problems here, that will be appreciated. Good luck.
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Someone keeps reverting the terminology in the lead paragraph to read "In most countries, it is known simply as hockey'". This is incorrect; field hockey is generally known as "hockey" only in the UK and a few of its former colonies. Elsewhere, it needs to be described as "field hockey" (or a local language equivalent) in order to be disambiguated from other forms of hockey, particularly ice hockey, which is significantly more popular in many parts of the world (North America, Continental Europe, Russia, etc.). If someone wants to make the claim that field hockey is is known as simply hockey "in most countries," some evidence needs to be provided. For now, I'm changing "most countries" back to "some countries". -- WorldWide Update ( talk) 09:55, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
It is not incorrect to say 'In most countries [field hockey],...is known simply as hockey'. As I write, I am watching the Hockey World Cup. It is field hockey. The the International Hockey Federation (FIH) has 126 members compared with the 77-member International Ice Hockey Federation (IIHF) as stated in the Wikipedia article about hockey. Both governing bodies therefore, agree on the terminology. I know North Americans are passionate about the fine sport of ice hockey and think it is a more manly game (though this would be an extremely dubious assertion to anyone who has played top level field hockey), but it is a variant. Calling ice hockey 'hockey' is the equivalent of calling water polo 'polo' or beach volleyball 'volleyball'. Iggyc61 ( talk) 00:54, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
It makes me smile to read these constant demands that North American usage should prevail whatever the circumstances on Wikipedia. Often this is accompanied by assertions that their usage is the majority so should be used. Even if this assertion were true (normally dubious), then if we are to follow majority usage North Americans should follow majority world usage and stop calling the ground floor the first floor, stop calling football soccer, and use dates in the common format DYM (63%) or even YMD (32%) rather than MDY (3%)! DickyP ( talk) 09:49, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Sorry guys, Canada owns hockey and their way goes. Hockey == ice hockey. That's just how it is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:449:C200:CDBF:4498:B56A:62BE:2130 ( talk) 20:59, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
This sentence is just left hanging, without context or explanation.
I suggest we work the following into the text: "Field hockey, a mostly male-dominated game in Europe, is almost exclusively played by girls in the US due to the passing of Title IX in 1972, which prohibits sex-based discrimination in public schools and made field hockey a counterweight to boys’ football." [1] CapnZapp ( talk) 14:51, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
In third paragraph: "the term "field hockey" (and sometimes "grass hockey" informally) is used primarily in Canada and the United States where ice hockey is more popular.
I don't think adding the words (and sometimes "grass hockey" informally) is too disruptive to the field hockey world outside Canada and the United States. Thoughts? Google "grass hockey" -> About 50,200 results (0.56 seconds) Facts707 ( talk) 20:12, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
Most hockey is played on artificial surface like 2G astroturf so grass not really appropriate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.99.178.220 ( talk) 12:11, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
There is Wikipedia:WikiProject Ice Hockey, as I suppose I would expect, but field hockey doesn't have a WikiProject. Would anyone be interested in forming it?
Sistorian ( talk) 04:46, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
I have been doing what I can to try and resolve some of the issues which mostly concern both lack and reliability of sources. I am going to be away for a lengthy period after today but, if anyone can help with the problems here, that will be appreciated. Good luck.