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I admit to being a bit of a sci-fi geek now and again, but the following statement is quite tenuous and fairly unencyclopedic: "The main character from Stargate Atlantis, John Sheppard, likes Ferris wheels." I snorted with a shocked sort of humour when I read it, it doesn't seem very appropriate.
I have removed it and bumped up the line about ferris wheels in films (I'd argue it's the most relevant) but am happy for someone to revert if there needs to be consensus on this potentially massive change to the article...! - Bigger digger ( talk) 00:29, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Would the fact that many people refer to Ferris Wheels as Fairy('s) Wheels be enough to justify a redirect from the latter? The initial statement can easily be backed up by doing a search through any search engine you like. The question would be if an encyclopaedia should refer to - though common - incorrect spellings. -- Schattenspieler ( talk) 01:24, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
The 700 ton weight ascribed to the axle does not agree with the description of its dimensions as being 45 feet long by 32 inches in diameter. With a density around .283 pounds/cubic inch, the axle should weigh around 61.5 tons. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
76.167.40.129 (
talk)
18:58, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Nitpick - "a single 700.000-ton" means seven hundred thousand tons in a lot of countries
Different sources give significantly different weights - I've found one stating 42 tons, another 74 tons, and dozens inbetween, with 70 tons probably the most commonly quoted figure.
http://columbus.iit.edu/dreamcity/00024025.html says: The shaft was solid, and forty-five feet long; it was thirty-two inches in diameter, and weighed as much as a heavy locomotive - that is seventy tons. It was and is the heaviest piece of steel ever forged - certainly outside of Krupp's works at Essen.
http://www.hydeparkhistory.org/newsletter.html says: ... the 89,320 pound axle, forged in Pittsburgh by the Bethlehem Iron Company ... the largest hollow forging in the world at the time, it was 45 1/2 feet long, 33 inches in diameter... Four and one-half feet from each end it carried two 16 foot diameter cast-iron spiders weighing 53,031 pounds.
The bold emphasis is mine. This image of the complete axle provides a good view of one end, which is clearly hollow.
89,320 lb = 44.66 short tons
53,031 lb = 26.5155 short tons
Total: 142,351 lb = 71.1755 short tons = 63.5495536 long tons = 64.5693275 tonnes (about the same as a fully loaded
Boeing 737-600)
I've reviewed a good number of resources and haven't found anything to cast credible doubt on 71 "US" tons being correct for the complete axle, or the fact that it comprised three parts - a 44.66 ton hollow forging, with two cast-iron "spiders" accounting for the remainder - per the image linked to above. I'm going to remove The axle, a single 70-ton solid hammered steel forging... from the article and add the information from the hydeparkhistory.org / Patrick Meehan synopsis instead. While that source is at odds with others on some other matters, in respect of the axle it provides the most comprehensive details and explanation and I've found nothing more credible or any proof that it's not accurate, plus there's no consensus amongst the other sources (which simply quote a single weight) other than the general "70 tons" approximation. I don't think it's worth mentioning the discrepancies in the article itself, as the differences appear to be misinterpretations and inaccuracies, as opposed to the weight being disputed. 92.3.44.211 ( talk) 22:25, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
{{ Infobox Ferris wheel}} is now available for use on your favourite Ferris wheel articles. It is newly cloned from {{ Infobox roller coaster}} so may need some debugging. Please report any errors or oddities at Template talk:Infobox Ferris wheel. -Arb. ( talk) 04:46, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Missing coordinates should be added! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.46.242.126 ( talk) 23:36, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
This ferris wheel is NOT the talles transportable ferris wheel in the world. Bussink never built a 66-metres high wheel (check the official website). The article (deaths shot the eye) is completely wrong! The wheel itself is not higher then 60 metres!!! The Steiger-60-metres ferris wheel is still the tallest transportable ferris wheel in the world (for example check the newest Guinnes world records). It is interesting, no one cares about the official information, like the Bussink website, the Guinnes world records, etc, BUT everyone believes in an article, which is completely wrong. Rest in peace Wikipedia :-( —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.201.184.161 ( talk) 10:47, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
I removed this recently added section as this is not a notable type of Ferris wheel. It appears to describe the sole example of a minor variation, a picture of which can be found here. 86.173.125.104 ( talk) 23:46, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
![]() | This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
I admit to being a bit of a sci-fi geek now and again, but the following statement is quite tenuous and fairly unencyclopedic: "The main character from Stargate Atlantis, John Sheppard, likes Ferris wheels." I snorted with a shocked sort of humour when I read it, it doesn't seem very appropriate.
I have removed it and bumped up the line about ferris wheels in films (I'd argue it's the most relevant) but am happy for someone to revert if there needs to be consensus on this potentially massive change to the article...! - Bigger digger ( talk) 00:29, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Would the fact that many people refer to Ferris Wheels as Fairy('s) Wheels be enough to justify a redirect from the latter? The initial statement can easily be backed up by doing a search through any search engine you like. The question would be if an encyclopaedia should refer to - though common - incorrect spellings. -- Schattenspieler ( talk) 01:24, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
The 700 ton weight ascribed to the axle does not agree with the description of its dimensions as being 45 feet long by 32 inches in diameter. With a density around .283 pounds/cubic inch, the axle should weigh around 61.5 tons. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
76.167.40.129 (
talk)
18:58, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Nitpick - "a single 700.000-ton" means seven hundred thousand tons in a lot of countries
Different sources give significantly different weights - I've found one stating 42 tons, another 74 tons, and dozens inbetween, with 70 tons probably the most commonly quoted figure.
http://columbus.iit.edu/dreamcity/00024025.html says: The shaft was solid, and forty-five feet long; it was thirty-two inches in diameter, and weighed as much as a heavy locomotive - that is seventy tons. It was and is the heaviest piece of steel ever forged - certainly outside of Krupp's works at Essen.
http://www.hydeparkhistory.org/newsletter.html says: ... the 89,320 pound axle, forged in Pittsburgh by the Bethlehem Iron Company ... the largest hollow forging in the world at the time, it was 45 1/2 feet long, 33 inches in diameter... Four and one-half feet from each end it carried two 16 foot diameter cast-iron spiders weighing 53,031 pounds.
The bold emphasis is mine. This image of the complete axle provides a good view of one end, which is clearly hollow.
89,320 lb = 44.66 short tons
53,031 lb = 26.5155 short tons
Total: 142,351 lb = 71.1755 short tons = 63.5495536 long tons = 64.5693275 tonnes (about the same as a fully loaded
Boeing 737-600)
I've reviewed a good number of resources and haven't found anything to cast credible doubt on 71 "US" tons being correct for the complete axle, or the fact that it comprised three parts - a 44.66 ton hollow forging, with two cast-iron "spiders" accounting for the remainder - per the image linked to above. I'm going to remove The axle, a single 70-ton solid hammered steel forging... from the article and add the information from the hydeparkhistory.org / Patrick Meehan synopsis instead. While that source is at odds with others on some other matters, in respect of the axle it provides the most comprehensive details and explanation and I've found nothing more credible or any proof that it's not accurate, plus there's no consensus amongst the other sources (which simply quote a single weight) other than the general "70 tons" approximation. I don't think it's worth mentioning the discrepancies in the article itself, as the differences appear to be misinterpretations and inaccuracies, as opposed to the weight being disputed. 92.3.44.211 ( talk) 22:25, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
{{ Infobox Ferris wheel}} is now available for use on your favourite Ferris wheel articles. It is newly cloned from {{ Infobox roller coaster}} so may need some debugging. Please report any errors or oddities at Template talk:Infobox Ferris wheel. -Arb. ( talk) 04:46, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Missing coordinates should be added! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.46.242.126 ( talk) 23:36, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
This ferris wheel is NOT the talles transportable ferris wheel in the world. Bussink never built a 66-metres high wheel (check the official website). The article (deaths shot the eye) is completely wrong! The wheel itself is not higher then 60 metres!!! The Steiger-60-metres ferris wheel is still the tallest transportable ferris wheel in the world (for example check the newest Guinnes world records). It is interesting, no one cares about the official information, like the Bussink website, the Guinnes world records, etc, BUT everyone believes in an article, which is completely wrong. Rest in peace Wikipedia :-( —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.201.184.161 ( talk) 10:47, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
I removed this recently added section as this is not a notable type of Ferris wheel. It appears to describe the sole example of a minor variation, a picture of which can be found here. 86.173.125.104 ( talk) 23:46, 13 April 2011 (UTC)