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the "stinger" car in both "vice city" and "vice city stories" is very similar and is an apparent homage to the one used in the show "miami vice". i think it is worth mentioning.
The Crockett's Daytona was a polemic theme of discussions, about hi-fi from original! The truth is, that was two Ferrari at same time. The first Ferrari is an original unit of black 365 Daytona Spider, with everything rights! The second Ferrari was builded to make stunts scenes and "blows over". An replicant's daytona was builded under a exemplary of Corvett, were they takes the body, remove and put over the replicants body of Daytona. Of corse, the interior was doned whit no much details, but the fiberglass body is praticly identical. Was during the episody of Miami vice it's cleary to listening the diferent engine songs of that "two versions" of Daytona. The original's song is same a motorcycle, very agude! So, the Corvett song is very "heavy", when it's bacame to up! Bytheway, this planjement shows what they producers of Miami Vice have to worried: preserv the incredible and expensive car!
Gabriel V. Reis
I doubt that theory. I have never seen the Miami Vice "Daytona" except as the replica; it always had the obvious Corvette bucket seats sticking up, a dead giveaway. Engine sounds? That's all done in the studio. Seth1066 22:15, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
About Crockett's Testarossa:
I'm sure no one changed the Ferrari flat-12 to Chrysler V8. I remember an article in Popular Mechanics: it said that there was a stunt-replica built from DeTomaso Panthera (you know, it has a V8).
Regards, Rico
I have removed the reference to Chevy replacement engines for the show's Testarossa as well the reference to the error filled UK website where this information was sourced from. And the above contributor is exactly right, a V-8 installation would be a nightmare and doubtful it would fit where the low profile flat 12 sat. The premise of a detective driving a Testarossa full time, including parking at his police station, is ridiculous enough. I also put the 165 spider production back to 125, which I believe is the right number or at the very least, closer than 165. Seth1066 22:09, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Per the Ferrari factory, none of the Daytonas on the "Miami Vice" program were real Ferraris. One of the 2 Testerosas was real, while the other was a DeTomaso Pantera with a body kit. Both of the Daytonas were Chevrolet Corvettes with fiberglass body kits. Which is why Ferrari was so upset.
A few notes on the article:
I do not believe that any Ferrari 365GTB/4 or GTS/4 models were ever delivered with Solex carbs. The two choices were Weber 40DCN20 or 40DCN21 which differ only by jetting and float level adjustment specs. What is the source for Daytonas with Solex carbs ?
The tipo 251 engine is derived from the Colombo line of engines. Not the Lampredi
line. The 275GTB/4 3.3L engine was also a Colombo motor. Not a Lampredi, as stated in
the article. Lampredi engines were used in the large displacement Super America and
Superfast models, as well as the 250 Europa 340 America racers, among others.
The 365GTC/4 and 365GT4 2+2 are not properly "Model Variations" of the Daytona,
even though the GTC/4 shares the same wheelbase. Other than that, they only share
the same engine displacement. There really isn't a "model group" that covers:
365GTB/4
365GTS/4
365GTC/4
365GT4 2+2
365GT 2+2
365GTC
365GTS
365GT4/BB and
365 California Spyder
The article mentions 165 original 365GTS/4 convertibles. I believe the correct number is closer to 127.
The windshield rake angle on 365GTB/4 and 365GTS/4 models is the same on all examples I have measured, including my own. The difference in the rake between the models idea seems to be an urban legend. Possible due to someone comparing a real Ferrari with a Corvette based replica.
The part numbers for both the windshield glass and the triangular "wind wing" windows are the same for the Coupe and the Convertible models ( per Ferrari parts books )
The original GTS/4 convertibles can usually be identified by such items as factory welded frame supports, ventilation controls, and a different sun visor arrangement. Some of the converted GTB/4s ( called "cut spyders" ) are detailed to such a degree that they can only be distinguished from original GTS/4s by referring to their serial number.
Most fake "Daytonas" ( usually based on Chevrolet Corvette or Jaguar frames ) can easily be distinguished by their lack of the triangular "wind wing" windows on the driver's and passenger's side doors. There are some differences in the lines of the replica cars dictated by points on the Corvette frame and doors.
Dr.mike
06:50, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Surely this article should be named using the actual model designation (365 GTB4) rather than an unofficial nickname? Jellyfish dave ( talk) 20:29, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Now, should we keep this article name as Ferrari Daytona, or change to the official names of "365 GTB/4 and 365 GTS/4". Spute ( talk) 12:58, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
The racing version is probably worth a mention - they took the first five places in the GT class at Le Mans in 1972. Mr Larrington ( talk) 15:47, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
I've removed a lot of detail from this part, there was just too much for an encyclopedia entry covering the Daytona 365 GTB/4 in general. Here's what I took out:
It's maybe worth preserving on this talk page, in case anyone wants to use it elsewhere, e.g on a page about Ferrari 365 GTB/4, serial number 14271? Tubefurnace ( talk) 21:33, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Deleted irrelevant section regarding supposed similarity between Ferrari Daytona and 2014 Corvette
i suppose since you have a legacy section the 71 in the gumball rally deserves a mention. I don't personally know enough about it to go adding the text though. Gjxj ( talk) 02:43, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
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the "stinger" car in both "vice city" and "vice city stories" is very similar and is an apparent homage to the one used in the show "miami vice". i think it is worth mentioning.
The Crockett's Daytona was a polemic theme of discussions, about hi-fi from original! The truth is, that was two Ferrari at same time. The first Ferrari is an original unit of black 365 Daytona Spider, with everything rights! The second Ferrari was builded to make stunts scenes and "blows over". An replicant's daytona was builded under a exemplary of Corvett, were they takes the body, remove and put over the replicants body of Daytona. Of corse, the interior was doned whit no much details, but the fiberglass body is praticly identical. Was during the episody of Miami vice it's cleary to listening the diferent engine songs of that "two versions" of Daytona. The original's song is same a motorcycle, very agude! So, the Corvett song is very "heavy", when it's bacame to up! Bytheway, this planjement shows what they producers of Miami Vice have to worried: preserv the incredible and expensive car!
Gabriel V. Reis
I doubt that theory. I have never seen the Miami Vice "Daytona" except as the replica; it always had the obvious Corvette bucket seats sticking up, a dead giveaway. Engine sounds? That's all done in the studio. Seth1066 22:15, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
About Crockett's Testarossa:
I'm sure no one changed the Ferrari flat-12 to Chrysler V8. I remember an article in Popular Mechanics: it said that there was a stunt-replica built from DeTomaso Panthera (you know, it has a V8).
Regards, Rico
I have removed the reference to Chevy replacement engines for the show's Testarossa as well the reference to the error filled UK website where this information was sourced from. And the above contributor is exactly right, a V-8 installation would be a nightmare and doubtful it would fit where the low profile flat 12 sat. The premise of a detective driving a Testarossa full time, including parking at his police station, is ridiculous enough. I also put the 165 spider production back to 125, which I believe is the right number or at the very least, closer than 165. Seth1066 22:09, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Per the Ferrari factory, none of the Daytonas on the "Miami Vice" program were real Ferraris. One of the 2 Testerosas was real, while the other was a DeTomaso Pantera with a body kit. Both of the Daytonas were Chevrolet Corvettes with fiberglass body kits. Which is why Ferrari was so upset.
A few notes on the article:
I do not believe that any Ferrari 365GTB/4 or GTS/4 models were ever delivered with Solex carbs. The two choices were Weber 40DCN20 or 40DCN21 which differ only by jetting and float level adjustment specs. What is the source for Daytonas with Solex carbs ?
The tipo 251 engine is derived from the Colombo line of engines. Not the Lampredi
line. The 275GTB/4 3.3L engine was also a Colombo motor. Not a Lampredi, as stated in
the article. Lampredi engines were used in the large displacement Super America and
Superfast models, as well as the 250 Europa 340 America racers, among others.
The 365GTC/4 and 365GT4 2+2 are not properly "Model Variations" of the Daytona,
even though the GTC/4 shares the same wheelbase. Other than that, they only share
the same engine displacement. There really isn't a "model group" that covers:
365GTB/4
365GTS/4
365GTC/4
365GT4 2+2
365GT 2+2
365GTC
365GTS
365GT4/BB and
365 California Spyder
The article mentions 165 original 365GTS/4 convertibles. I believe the correct number is closer to 127.
The windshield rake angle on 365GTB/4 and 365GTS/4 models is the same on all examples I have measured, including my own. The difference in the rake between the models idea seems to be an urban legend. Possible due to someone comparing a real Ferrari with a Corvette based replica.
The part numbers for both the windshield glass and the triangular "wind wing" windows are the same for the Coupe and the Convertible models ( per Ferrari parts books )
The original GTS/4 convertibles can usually be identified by such items as factory welded frame supports, ventilation controls, and a different sun visor arrangement. Some of the converted GTB/4s ( called "cut spyders" ) are detailed to such a degree that they can only be distinguished from original GTS/4s by referring to their serial number.
Most fake "Daytonas" ( usually based on Chevrolet Corvette or Jaguar frames ) can easily be distinguished by their lack of the triangular "wind wing" windows on the driver's and passenger's side doors. There are some differences in the lines of the replica cars dictated by points on the Corvette frame and doors.
Dr.mike
06:50, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Surely this article should be named using the actual model designation (365 GTB4) rather than an unofficial nickname? Jellyfish dave ( talk) 20:29, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Now, should we keep this article name as Ferrari Daytona, or change to the official names of "365 GTB/4 and 365 GTS/4". Spute ( talk) 12:58, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
The racing version is probably worth a mention - they took the first five places in the GT class at Le Mans in 1972. Mr Larrington ( talk) 15:47, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
I've removed a lot of detail from this part, there was just too much for an encyclopedia entry covering the Daytona 365 GTB/4 in general. Here's what I took out:
It's maybe worth preserving on this talk page, in case anyone wants to use it elsewhere, e.g on a page about Ferrari 365 GTB/4, serial number 14271? Tubefurnace ( talk) 21:33, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Deleted irrelevant section regarding supposed similarity between Ferrari Daytona and 2014 Corvette
i suppose since you have a legacy section the 71 in the gumball rally deserves a mention. I don't personally know enough about it to go adding the text though. Gjxj ( talk) 02:43, 17 July 2021 (UTC)