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Surely it would be helpfull if the article said where in france the palais was somewhere in the text? Abigsmurf 13:09, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
palace would be the more obvious translation for palais; a castle implies fortification. — Tamfang 18:54, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
As many people have said below, this literally means "It is forbidden to touch nothing". "Do not touch nothing" is an incorrect translation - it gives the wrong connotation that it was meant to be written as "do not touch anything" but the person was weak in grammar in the same way that English speakers can be. This doesnt hold for french. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chengiz ( talk • contribs) 01:49, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
I changed the translation of Défense de rien toucher. I think that mine is correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.228.205.235 ( talk) 22:51, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Being a French grammarian (from France), I may offer some input. The guy was uneducated scholarly speaking, and he committed a common grammar error in French by forgetting half of the negative construction. He clearly meant Défense de NE rien toucher which translates into Forbidden not to touch anything, i.e. "Obligation to touch something. But he wrote Défense de rien toucher". A simple grammar omission, which is orally acceptable and very very common (e.g. je (ne) veux pas). Surely, he could not have meant anything else. No other grammatical correction of his warning sign yields any logical and sensible meaning.
Défense de ne rien toucher = "Forbidden not to touch anything = Obligation of touching things —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.216.5 ( talk) 08:59, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
It's not clear from the article whether this is a structure that you can enter, and there is no indication as to how many rooms there might be and of what type. Does anyone here know?
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Almost all or all the external links are dead. Here's a possible replacement for anyone to add who has mastered the new system for adding links:
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Robert Hughes in his book The Shock of the New (1980), discusses Cheval at length under the heading Surrealism; but throughout identifies Cheval in English as le facteur Cheval, much as the painter Rousseau is identified as le douanier. Nuttyskin ( talk) 01:38, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
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I'm hoping someone will stumble upon this section that can answer the following questions.
1. Where did this "peasant" get so much mortar (lime and cement, from what I understand)?
2. There are "thick sandstone columns" in the Temple of Nature (originally the name for the entire structure, reportedly) according to the article. Are they also composite / mortared stones/pebbles?
3. Did this "palace" include any quarrying or raising of large stones, or was all the building material small and manageable and a fantastic amount of mortar was used instead?
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Surely it would be helpfull if the article said where in france the palais was somewhere in the text? Abigsmurf 13:09, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
palace would be the more obvious translation for palais; a castle implies fortification. — Tamfang 18:54, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
As many people have said below, this literally means "It is forbidden to touch nothing". "Do not touch nothing" is an incorrect translation - it gives the wrong connotation that it was meant to be written as "do not touch anything" but the person was weak in grammar in the same way that English speakers can be. This doesnt hold for french. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chengiz ( talk • contribs) 01:49, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
I changed the translation of Défense de rien toucher. I think that mine is correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.228.205.235 ( talk) 22:51, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Being a French grammarian (from France), I may offer some input. The guy was uneducated scholarly speaking, and he committed a common grammar error in French by forgetting half of the negative construction. He clearly meant Défense de NE rien toucher which translates into Forbidden not to touch anything, i.e. "Obligation to touch something. But he wrote Défense de rien toucher". A simple grammar omission, which is orally acceptable and very very common (e.g. je (ne) veux pas). Surely, he could not have meant anything else. No other grammatical correction of his warning sign yields any logical and sensible meaning.
Défense de ne rien toucher = "Forbidden not to touch anything = Obligation of touching things —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.216.5 ( talk) 08:59, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
It's not clear from the article whether this is a structure that you can enter, and there is no indication as to how many rooms there might be and of what type. Does anyone here know?
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Almost all or all the external links are dead. Here's a possible replacement for anyone to add who has mastered the new system for adding links:
http://www.facteurcheval.com/histoire/palais-ideal-facteur-cheval.html
Awien ( talk) 17:02, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
Robert Hughes in his book The Shock of the New (1980), discusses Cheval at length under the heading Surrealism; but throughout identifies Cheval in English as le facteur Cheval, much as the painter Rousseau is identified as le douanier. Nuttyskin ( talk) 01:38, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
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I'm hoping someone will stumble upon this section that can answer the following questions.
1. Where did this "peasant" get so much mortar (lime and cement, from what I understand)?
2. There are "thick sandstone columns" in the Temple of Nature (originally the name for the entire structure, reportedly) according to the article. Are they also composite / mortared stones/pebbles?
3. Did this "palace" include any quarrying or raising of large stones, or was all the building material small and manageable and a fantastic amount of mortar was used instead?