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I created this page on July 18, 2005 in memory of Woody, a family friend who died from this awful disease. puskarm July 18, 2005 22:48 (UTC)
"Quarantine is not necessary as FIP is not truly an infectious disease. Feline Enteric Coronavirus is shed in the feces and can be passed on to other cats, however, it is the mutated form of the virus that leads to FIP. This form is only found in macrophages and is therefore not shed and not contagious." --Potentially misleading with deadly consequences, directly contradicts the majority of sources online. Citation urgently required to offset adverse impact on accuracy and impartiality of article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.34.128.141 ( talk) 06:34, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
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"Feline Interferon Omega has shown great promise of putting F.I.P. into remission and can possibly increase the life span for a few more years. Feline Interferon Omega or Virbagen Omega is a product that is made by the company called Virbac. The company that is producing the drug is currently working on it is in Europe and the drug is not for use in North America yet unless. The only way right now that you can do to get the drug is you have to contact the company in Europe and ask for it. The only problem with this drug is unless you have it at your veterinary clinic right when the symptoms show the the drug will not do any good because it can take up to 10 days for it to arrive from Europe and by that time if death has not yet occured it is to late to do the cat any good." [added to the article by anon]
Interferon treatment in cats is already well established for other chronic viral diseases (eg, FIV) however I've never heard or seen it proposed for use in FIP. Since the immune reaction is actually what causes fluid accumulation and ultimately death, immunostimulatatory drugs would probably be counterproductive. Typically human interferon is used (interferon alpha-2a, Roferon) while the product above sounds like recombinant feline interferon which may or may not make any difference. -- Bk0 ( Talk) 18:55, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
I have a very young cat who has been exhibiting many of the FIP symptoms for 2-3 weeks now, but we are not sure this is what it is. He has jaundice, weight-loss, a really high white-cell count, lethargy, but he does not have any fluid collection or neurological indications whatsoever. Maybe it's too early? I don't know... He is 8 months old, and at this point, we can only hope that it's not this awful disease. So far, it's a mystery.
We have an 11 year-old cat who has been a carrier of FIP all of her life, and is just now succumbing to it. We used to live in Italy where the disease is prevalent among stray cats, which are everywhere. When we rescued this abandoned kitten we had her checked out at an American veterinary clinic, but unfortunately she was not tested for FIP, and we had no knowledge of the disease or its prevalence in Europe. Other than a slight dry cough, she had no symptoms. After bringing her into our home in Italy, the cat we already had became gravely ill after about three months and was diagnosed and died of FIP. The kitten was tested and determined to be the carrier (both were indoor cats). The excellent Italian vet who had a great deal of experience with the disease, told us that she would always be infectious, that she would eventually succumb to it, and that the vaccine in existence (1998) was ineffective. After moving back to the States, my daughter worked for a vet who claimed utter confidence that the vaccine did work. I should have believed the more experienced vet in Italy. I'm sorry to say that we had a kitten vaccinated, waited the recommended time and brought her into our home. She was dead in three months. So I was shocked to read in the Wikipedia page on FIP that it is not contagious! I read that passage over several times, and perhaps I misunderstood the intent of the author, but that should be clarified. FIP is highly contagious. User:Kypittore.i sympathize with you.my 17 year old tuxedo cat is dying of effusive FIP.she was diagnosed 1 year ago,and she has already lived much longer than most other cats with effusive FIP,because we treated her with cyclophosphamide and p dexamethasone,which has been shown to prlong the lives of FIP patients.the vet thinks she will have 1-2 more weeks left.i will miss my poor kitty immensely. 169.244.148.235 ( talk) 15:04, 28 December 2009 (UTC) You take a long time to come to your point, but I agree completely: There's insufficient citation in this article in the paragraph which says "Quarantine is not necessary as FIP is not truly an infectious disease. Feline Enteric Coronavirus is shed in the feces and can be passed on to other cats, however, it is the mutated form of the virus that leads to FIP. This form is only found in macrophages and is therefore not shed and not contagious." I ahve consulted two vets (in Thailand) and three veterinary websites, and have found nobody who agrees with Wikipedia that "Quarantine is not necessary". Let's remove that paragraph, or show some VERY convincing evidence that it's true. My vet says that FIP can be transmitted in body fluids. Since unseparated cats will share food and water bowls, and cats clean themselves by LICKING their fur (and sometimes by licking one another's fur), plenty of fluids can be exchanged. We should therefore assume that Feline ***Infectious*** Peritonitis is of course contagious. Sethnessatwikipedia ( talk) 10:40, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
I also question the prevailing wisdom that FIP is not contagious. From a logical perspective, the experiments that were done to test the efficacy of the FIP vaccine "challenged" the cats by giving them an oral or nasal dose of the FIP virus, and the cats became infected. So it is clearly possible for FIP itself to be transmitted. See the writeup of the studies done to evaluate the Primucell vaccine for more information. A good starting point is this: http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A&A=234&S=1&SourceID=19. Empirically, we had a cat diagnosed with FIP 40 years ago, and our vet also said that it was not contagious. Within a couple of months, however, all 5 of our other cats were showing symptoms, and we lost every one of them. Three were genetically related, the others were not. Without a really strong citation, the "Quarantine is not necessary ... not truly infectious" line should be removed. Quarantine after symptoms may be too late, but if you have other cats, it is still the best choice. Moxbox ( talk) 18:15, 16 January 2011 (UTC) [1]
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Marty the cat died due to this. :( If this has a cure, he wouldn't die! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.68.45.217 ( talk) 09:06, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
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Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 19:53, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
I have been volunteering/working for a vet for years and FIP is one of the most highly contagious diseases we see. It can be spread through all bodily fluids, including saliva, meaning that sharing food and water or grooming each other can be deadly for cats without the disease. It is extremely important that infected cats be quarantined. This is the only way to ensure that no healthy cats will come into contact with this disease. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faulhnhm ( talk • contribs) 13:53, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
My cat James died of FIP 😭😭😭😭😭 RIP you were an amazing little kitten Chicken chicken nugget ( talk) 17:45, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
How should the summary inset be modified to account for GS-441524? It is known to be effective, so stating FIP is untreatable and always fatal is simply false. It would also be disingenuous to imply it has an approved treatment that is generally available, though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:191:8580:57E0:71AA:DCF0:2F53:E674 ( talk) 17:16, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
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I created this page on July 18, 2005 in memory of Woody, a family friend who died from this awful disease. puskarm July 18, 2005 22:48 (UTC)
"Quarantine is not necessary as FIP is not truly an infectious disease. Feline Enteric Coronavirus is shed in the feces and can be passed on to other cats, however, it is the mutated form of the virus that leads to FIP. This form is only found in macrophages and is therefore not shed and not contagious." --Potentially misleading with deadly consequences, directly contradicts the majority of sources online. Citation urgently required to offset adverse impact on accuracy and impartiality of article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.34.128.141 ( talk) 06:34, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Quote:
"Feline Interferon Omega has shown great promise of putting F.I.P. into remission and can possibly increase the life span for a few more years. Feline Interferon Omega or Virbagen Omega is a product that is made by the company called Virbac. The company that is producing the drug is currently working on it is in Europe and the drug is not for use in North America yet unless. The only way right now that you can do to get the drug is you have to contact the company in Europe and ask for it. The only problem with this drug is unless you have it at your veterinary clinic right when the symptoms show the the drug will not do any good because it can take up to 10 days for it to arrive from Europe and by that time if death has not yet occured it is to late to do the cat any good." [added to the article by anon]
Interferon treatment in cats is already well established for other chronic viral diseases (eg, FIV) however I've never heard or seen it proposed for use in FIP. Since the immune reaction is actually what causes fluid accumulation and ultimately death, immunostimulatatory drugs would probably be counterproductive. Typically human interferon is used (interferon alpha-2a, Roferon) while the product above sounds like recombinant feline interferon which may or may not make any difference. -- Bk0 ( Talk) 18:55, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
I have a very young cat who has been exhibiting many of the FIP symptoms for 2-3 weeks now, but we are not sure this is what it is. He has jaundice, weight-loss, a really high white-cell count, lethargy, but he does not have any fluid collection or neurological indications whatsoever. Maybe it's too early? I don't know... He is 8 months old, and at this point, we can only hope that it's not this awful disease. So far, it's a mystery.
We have an 11 year-old cat who has been a carrier of FIP all of her life, and is just now succumbing to it. We used to live in Italy where the disease is prevalent among stray cats, which are everywhere. When we rescued this abandoned kitten we had her checked out at an American veterinary clinic, but unfortunately she was not tested for FIP, and we had no knowledge of the disease or its prevalence in Europe. Other than a slight dry cough, she had no symptoms. After bringing her into our home in Italy, the cat we already had became gravely ill after about three months and was diagnosed and died of FIP. The kitten was tested and determined to be the carrier (both were indoor cats). The excellent Italian vet who had a great deal of experience with the disease, told us that she would always be infectious, that she would eventually succumb to it, and that the vaccine in existence (1998) was ineffective. After moving back to the States, my daughter worked for a vet who claimed utter confidence that the vaccine did work. I should have believed the more experienced vet in Italy. I'm sorry to say that we had a kitten vaccinated, waited the recommended time and brought her into our home. She was dead in three months. So I was shocked to read in the Wikipedia page on FIP that it is not contagious! I read that passage over several times, and perhaps I misunderstood the intent of the author, but that should be clarified. FIP is highly contagious. User:Kypittore.i sympathize with you.my 17 year old tuxedo cat is dying of effusive FIP.she was diagnosed 1 year ago,and she has already lived much longer than most other cats with effusive FIP,because we treated her with cyclophosphamide and p dexamethasone,which has been shown to prlong the lives of FIP patients.the vet thinks she will have 1-2 more weeks left.i will miss my poor kitty immensely. 169.244.148.235 ( talk) 15:04, 28 December 2009 (UTC) You take a long time to come to your point, but I agree completely: There's insufficient citation in this article in the paragraph which says "Quarantine is not necessary as FIP is not truly an infectious disease. Feline Enteric Coronavirus is shed in the feces and can be passed on to other cats, however, it is the mutated form of the virus that leads to FIP. This form is only found in macrophages and is therefore not shed and not contagious." I ahve consulted two vets (in Thailand) and three veterinary websites, and have found nobody who agrees with Wikipedia that "Quarantine is not necessary". Let's remove that paragraph, or show some VERY convincing evidence that it's true. My vet says that FIP can be transmitted in body fluids. Since unseparated cats will share food and water bowls, and cats clean themselves by LICKING their fur (and sometimes by licking one another's fur), plenty of fluids can be exchanged. We should therefore assume that Feline ***Infectious*** Peritonitis is of course contagious. Sethnessatwikipedia ( talk) 10:40, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
I also question the prevailing wisdom that FIP is not contagious. From a logical perspective, the experiments that were done to test the efficacy of the FIP vaccine "challenged" the cats by giving them an oral or nasal dose of the FIP virus, and the cats became infected. So it is clearly possible for FIP itself to be transmitted. See the writeup of the studies done to evaluate the Primucell vaccine for more information. A good starting point is this: http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A&A=234&S=1&SourceID=19. Empirically, we had a cat diagnosed with FIP 40 years ago, and our vet also said that it was not contagious. Within a couple of months, however, all 5 of our other cats were showing symptoms, and we lost every one of them. Three were genetically related, the others were not. Without a really strong citation, the "Quarantine is not necessary ... not truly infectious" line should be removed. Quarantine after symptoms may be too late, but if you have other cats, it is still the best choice. Moxbox ( talk) 18:15, 16 January 2011 (UTC) [1]
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Marty the cat died due to this. :( If this has a cure, he wouldn't die! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.68.45.217 ( talk) 09:06, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
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Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 19:53, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
I have been volunteering/working for a vet for years and FIP is one of the most highly contagious diseases we see. It can be spread through all bodily fluids, including saliva, meaning that sharing food and water or grooming each other can be deadly for cats without the disease. It is extremely important that infected cats be quarantined. This is the only way to ensure that no healthy cats will come into contact with this disease. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faulhnhm ( talk • contribs) 13:53, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
My cat James died of FIP 😭😭😭😭😭 RIP you were an amazing little kitten Chicken chicken nugget ( talk) 17:45, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
How should the summary inset be modified to account for GS-441524? It is known to be effective, so stating FIP is untreatable and always fatal is simply false. It would also be disingenuous to imply it has an approved treatment that is generally available, though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:191:8580:57E0:71AA:DCF0:2F53:E674 ( talk) 17:16, 13 September 2020 (UTC)