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Should we put any distinction on this list between currently living and extinct species? I understand the desire to list all species by genera, but strictly alphabetical organization seems arbitrary for the average user.-- 209.6.138.103 ( talk) 17:13, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
Shouldn't Panthers be on this list?-- 67.66.69.165 ( talk) 00:08, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
OK?--- Bliizard ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:30, 15 February 2012 (UTC).
Felis catus is a subspecies of Felis silvestris, its full name that reflects its place in classification is Felis silvestris catus. There are new genetic research based classifications. Why don't you want to check it?-- Zara-arush ( talk) 19:55, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
i removed the two genra Dinofelis and Metailurus because they do not belong in Felinae, but Machairodontinae. -- Coluberssymbol ( talk) 21:04, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
The genus Acinonyx is listed both here and in pantherinae. Which is it? Sophie means wisdom ( talk) 07:08, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
There is an inconsistency in the tribe names used in various articles. The taxobox in this article lists Acinonychini and Felini as tribes, but the taxobox in the felini article has a subtribe Pumina (essentially the same as Acinonychini). Both include lynxes. Given the currently accepted relationship between felid lineages, the tribe Felini should only include the felis and leaopard cat lineages or include all four (with lynxes and pumas) as in the Felini article taxobox. The current taxobox for this article with lynxes and not pumas/cheetahs is not a natural taxon. As a more general point, what is the source for these tribe names? Jts1882 ( talk) 10:08, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
@ The Explaner: The above comments explain the reason for my revert of your recent change. To my knowledge, Acinonychini has never been descibed as inclusive of pumas. @ BhagyaMani and PresN: In general I've notes a number of unsourced tribes have been inserted into the Felidae articles from time to time. I know there was a proposal to assign tribes to the lineages (~2009?) but as this hasn't be published a decade later it can't be used as a source on Wikipedia. If there is a new taxonomic review with tribes asssigned, I am not aware of it. Any comments? Jts1882 | talk 07:05, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
This is regarding the opening summary: "… small cats having a bony hyoid, because of which they are able to purr but not roar.[2]":
A rewrite of this area seems to be in order. Please (re-)read the first paragraph on page 7 of the noted reference '2' in its entirety. It states that using elastic- versus bony-hyoid, for differentiation, was used through most of the 20th century; but that that is no longer considered valid. After a diversion about cheetahs, the source text goes on to state "recent studies of hyoid structure and vocal abilities of cats have found that this simple correlation does not hold", and "the fundamental difference between the mostly roaring non-purring cats and the rest [is now attributed to] the structure of the larynx".
Therefore, I suggest a fix to the opening summary, such as one of the following:
1) Perhaps the opening summary should simply be truncated, after "hyoid"?
2) Perhaps the opening summary should become more lengthy: "… small cats having a bony hyoid, and lacking the elasticated vocal folds within the larynx, typical of big cats, and so are able to purr but not roar.[2]"?
174.118.33.82 ( talk) 17:15, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Regarding its sorting order, the previous cladogram seems very inconsistent across its lineage groups. If there was a system to the previous sorting order, please point it out. WP:SYNTH doesn't preclude sorting order changes, as long as the the quoted information isn't altered.
To improve the tree's readability I boldly changed the sorting order in a uniform manner by applying the following principles:
I also added the relevant sources and threatened status icons to the cladogram. Please discuss. 89.206.112.15 ( talk) 15:59, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 19 January 2023 and 19 May 2023. Further details are available
on the course page. Student editor(s):
Adrianarias44802 (
article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by Adrianarias44802 ( talk) 16:31, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
Certainly the illustrated table should contain all genera in this family. 2600:1700:A644:6000:E422:3DBA:C3F4:283 ( talk) 08:53, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
Why are these not considered tribes? 67.231.67.253 ( talk) 21:30, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
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Should we put any distinction on this list between currently living and extinct species? I understand the desire to list all species by genera, but strictly alphabetical organization seems arbitrary for the average user.-- 209.6.138.103 ( talk) 17:13, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
Shouldn't Panthers be on this list?-- 67.66.69.165 ( talk) 00:08, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
OK?--- Bliizard ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:30, 15 February 2012 (UTC).
Felis catus is a subspecies of Felis silvestris, its full name that reflects its place in classification is Felis silvestris catus. There are new genetic research based classifications. Why don't you want to check it?-- Zara-arush ( talk) 19:55, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
i removed the two genra Dinofelis and Metailurus because they do not belong in Felinae, but Machairodontinae. -- Coluberssymbol ( talk) 21:04, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
The genus Acinonyx is listed both here and in pantherinae. Which is it? Sophie means wisdom ( talk) 07:08, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
There is an inconsistency in the tribe names used in various articles. The taxobox in this article lists Acinonychini and Felini as tribes, but the taxobox in the felini article has a subtribe Pumina (essentially the same as Acinonychini). Both include lynxes. Given the currently accepted relationship between felid lineages, the tribe Felini should only include the felis and leaopard cat lineages or include all four (with lynxes and pumas) as in the Felini article taxobox. The current taxobox for this article with lynxes and not pumas/cheetahs is not a natural taxon. As a more general point, what is the source for these tribe names? Jts1882 ( talk) 10:08, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
@ The Explaner: The above comments explain the reason for my revert of your recent change. To my knowledge, Acinonychini has never been descibed as inclusive of pumas. @ BhagyaMani and PresN: In general I've notes a number of unsourced tribes have been inserted into the Felidae articles from time to time. I know there was a proposal to assign tribes to the lineages (~2009?) but as this hasn't be published a decade later it can't be used as a source on Wikipedia. If there is a new taxonomic review with tribes asssigned, I am not aware of it. Any comments? Jts1882 | talk 07:05, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
This is regarding the opening summary: "… small cats having a bony hyoid, because of which they are able to purr but not roar.[2]":
A rewrite of this area seems to be in order. Please (re-)read the first paragraph on page 7 of the noted reference '2' in its entirety. It states that using elastic- versus bony-hyoid, for differentiation, was used through most of the 20th century; but that that is no longer considered valid. After a diversion about cheetahs, the source text goes on to state "recent studies of hyoid structure and vocal abilities of cats have found that this simple correlation does not hold", and "the fundamental difference between the mostly roaring non-purring cats and the rest [is now attributed to] the structure of the larynx".
Therefore, I suggest a fix to the opening summary, such as one of the following:
1) Perhaps the opening summary should simply be truncated, after "hyoid"?
2) Perhaps the opening summary should become more lengthy: "… small cats having a bony hyoid, and lacking the elasticated vocal folds within the larynx, typical of big cats, and so are able to purr but not roar.[2]"?
174.118.33.82 ( talk) 17:15, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Regarding its sorting order, the previous cladogram seems very inconsistent across its lineage groups. If there was a system to the previous sorting order, please point it out. WP:SYNTH doesn't preclude sorting order changes, as long as the the quoted information isn't altered.
To improve the tree's readability I boldly changed the sorting order in a uniform manner by applying the following principles:
I also added the relevant sources and threatened status icons to the cladogram. Please discuss. 89.206.112.15 ( talk) 15:59, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 19 January 2023 and 19 May 2023. Further details are available
on the course page. Student editor(s):
Adrianarias44802 (
article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by Adrianarias44802 ( talk) 16:31, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
Certainly the illustrated table should contain all genera in this family. 2600:1700:A644:6000:E422:3DBA:C3F4:283 ( talk) 08:53, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
Why are these not considered tribes? 67.231.67.253 ( talk) 21:30, 21 June 2024 (UTC)