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I have cited numerous sources that conflict with sherdogs tko. MEanwhile you are content to merely cite sherdog. Who is a more legitimate news source, sherdog or ESPN saying it was a KO?. The referee for that fight Herb Dean is on record saying Fedor was unconscious, and that is was subsequent strikes from Hendo that woke fedor up. But at that point the fight was over Herb Dean says. You can cite the controversy all you want but these sources are calling it a knockout, and all I have seen to the contrary is a statement saying sherdog essentially has the final say on all matters fight related. PortlandOregon97217 ( talk) 20:14, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
How is an interview of Fedor on Fedor's own official site not a reliable source? You'd rather have a media outlet like MMAJunkie as a source instead of the DIRECT source itself? Delinquent1904 ( talk) 17:04, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
PS:MMAjunkie is a part of USAtoday, and shoudl be presumed notable. I left a question in the reliable sources noticeboard about this and (except for a lone dissdenter) it was deemed generally reliable. I also hear that Bleacherreport is going to be handling sports for CNN now so keep a lookout for good articles from them in the future. PortlandOregon97217 ( talk) 21:21, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
93.72.158.176 continues to post that Fedor is Ukrainian, despite this issue having already been addressed once and twice. I don't want to get into an edit war but this is ridiculous. Someone should either tell Comrade Putin that Fedor is Ukrainian or block this IP. Chris Troutman ( talk) 13:15, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
There's been ongoing editing back and forth about Fedor being the "greatest of all time", which got started with this edit by Dkspartan1. I recommend the IPs that think this is an issue come up with text based on some reliable sources. I think it's more reasonable to assert that prior to Anderson Silva, Fedor was considered by some to be the greatest. Ultimately it doesn't matter because it's a matter of opinion. Chris Troutman ( talk) 18:52, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
List of Accolades and Citations:
An overview:
Fedor Status as the GOAT was somewhat challanged after his three loses, this was happening while Anderson Silva's winning streak remained unbroken. http://www.mmaweekly.com/greatest-of-all-time-anderson-silva-or-fedor-emelianenko
But later Silva lost his last two fights in a row, in brutal fashion (KO and Compound fracture to the leg) - so it negates the above. http://www.bjpenn.com/anderson-silva-fights-for-his-legacy/
There is a difference between Pound-for-pound ranking (P4P) and the accolade; Greatest fighter in MMA history (GOAT). A fighter can be number 1 P4P for a while (while active) but still not considered GOAT. it's usually the fighters that Reigned long as top P4P, that are considered in the GOAT discussion. (Fedor and Silva)
When Fedor had his first loss he dropped immediately in the P4P rankings. "Fedor Emelianenko dropped like a rock in various pound-for-pound polls after losing to Fabricio Werdum, and his win streak as twice as long as Silva's." http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/7/12/4511984/sb-nation-pound-for-pound-mma-rankings-where-do-silva-and-weidman-rate
The same thing happened to Anderson Silva after his first and second losses. He used to be number 1 P4P, he is currently number 7. http://www.ufc.com/rankings
So the playing field is leveled in that sense. And those two are the ones that are brought up in the GOAT discussions.
Used accolades in mma and their differences:
Fedor currently has Six known accolades:
1) The Greatest Master Of Ground-and-Pound in MMA History
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/6/3/3059390/analyzing-fedor-revolutionizing-ground-and-pound
2) The Greatest Heavyweight Of All Time:
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/MMAs-AllTime-Heavyweights-35201
http://www.espn.co.uk/ufc/sport/story/248959.html
3) The Longest reigning Top Pound-For-Pound fighter (P4P) in MMA History
http://www.mmamania.com/2011/7/28/2247829/ungodly-numbers-a-look-at-fedor-emelianenko
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/692384-5-reasons-fedor-emelianenko-vs-dan-henderson-is-fight-of-the-year — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigbaby23 ( talk • contribs) 20:07, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
4) The Greatest MMA Fighter Of All Time. GOAT
4.1) Most fans overwhelmingly consider Fedor as the GOAT. Fedor wins Fans polls by a huge margin over Anderson Silva
http://www.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/toughest-professional-fighters-in-history
http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f40/who-g-o-t-w-poll-2503923/
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/9/4/3291524/fedor-emelianenko--greatest-fighter-brazilian-mma-news
4.2) Many Fighting champions consider Fedor to be the GOAT:
http://www.mmabay.co.uk/2010/12/15/cain-velasquez-names-fedor-emelianenko-as-the-best-of-all-time-would-love-to-fight-him-down-the-line/ Bigbaby23 ( talk) 21:07, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
https://www.facebook.com/BasRutten/posts/442653112471726 Bigbaby23 ( talk) 20:51, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6V5Pf1sR5M
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1355001-junior-dos-santos-fedor-is-the-greatest-of-all-time
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/54789-the-top-10-myths-about-fedor-emelianenko — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigbaby23 ( talk • contribs) 08:23, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/54789-the-top-10-myths-about-fedor-emelianenko — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigbaby23 ( talk • contribs) 08:17, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/jeff_wagenheim/02/15/strikeforce/
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/3/23/2897477/mike-tyson-mma-rosie-odonnell-fedor-faber
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/54789-the-top-10-myths-about-fedor-emelianenko
4.3) Among analysts it's a close call between Fedor and Anderson:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/tim_marchman/02/10/silva.fedor/
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1909904-fedor-emelianenko-vs-anderson-silva-who-is-the-goat Bigbaby23 ( talk) 21:21, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
5) MMA Legend
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jun/22/sports/la-sp-sn-mma-fedor-emelianenko-20120622
http://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/fedor-emelianenko-the-last-emperor Bigbaby23 ( talk) 16:17, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
6) Humble
http://www.mmasportsmag.com/interview_fedor_emelianenko.htm
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/286837-fedor-fights-in-chicago
http://www.mmasportsmag.com/interview_fedor_emelianenko3.htm
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/jeff_wagenheim/02/15/strikeforce/
http://www.mmaweekly.com/fedor-emelianenko-talks-retirement-his-legacy-and-possible-drop-to-light-heavyweight Bigbaby23 ( talk) 14:57, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
"Emelianenko is Widely considered the greatest MMA heavyweight of all time, and the greatest master of the Ground-and-Pound fighting strategy in MMA History. MMA fans, overwhelmingly, also consider him to be the greatest MMA fighter of all time (GOAT), and so do many mma champions. Experts and analysts find it difficult to choose between him and Anderson Silva, for the accolade of GOAT. Though all consider him an MMA legend."
Suggested tweaks and ideas are welcome. Bigbaby23 ( talk) 16:57, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
My goodness. i specifically made subsections, in order to make everything clear. Go to 2) The Greatest Heavyweight Of All Time : Fedor is unquestionably #1 Heavyweight of all time. Now go to 4) The Greatest MMA Fighter Of All Time. GOAT subsection (which means considering all weight classes, Silva is a middleweight), you'll see it is divided into three parts 4.1, 4.2, 4.3 . I specifically do not make a POV. 4.1 = Fan Views (totally in favor Fedor), 4.2 = Fighting champions views (most on record cite fedor) 4.3 = Analysts (they are divided on the matter / cannot chose between the two). Hope things are getting clearer Bigbaby23 ( talk) 21:46, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
Emelianenko status in the world of mma is that of a legend. From December 22, 2000 until June 26, 2010, he was unbeaten in his 28 appearances, including wins over five former UFC champions and five former K-1 champions, In the rare moments where an opponent seemed to be getting the better of him, his resilience became legendary. The first time he truly tasted defeat was in 2010. Major mma publications consider him to be the greatest mma heavyweight of all time. He is quoted as the longest reigning top pound for pound ranked fighter in mma history, with experts, analyzing his fighting style, depicting him as a complete fighter who was also the greatest master of the ground-and-pound fighting technique. Seven-time world karate champion and judo and brazilian jiu-jitsu Black Belt, Chuck Norris, asserted in December 2007: "Fedor is the best and greatest fighter and Martial Artist of all time". In March 2012, Boxing Hall of Fame inductee, Mike Tyson, also stated that Emelianenko is the greatest fighter in the history of the sport. According to multiple opinion polls; by a large margin, mma fans, vote Emelianenko to be the greatest mma fighter of all time (G.O.A.T). Many current and former mma champions hold this view as well. Among mma analysts there is no consensus on the subject, and many of them note it is difficult to choose between Emelianenko and middleweight mma fighter Anderson Silva for the title of G.O.A.T.
Emelianenko is also notable for being a very humble fighter. "“I am human like everyone else. I don’t consider my achievements as a ‘legacy.’ I’ve never considered myself as a ‘legend’ – just a simple man with heart,”". When asked if he agrees or disagrees with all the positive accolades bestowed upon him, He answered: "I try not to give these characterizations any thought and try not to attach importance to them. A man becomes complacent if he considers himself great. I try to live a normal human life. But I also appreciate the fact that martial arts fans get very excited about fighters and enjoy talking about them. And I do not want to offend my fans. I very much appreciate all of the kind words people say about me." Bigbaby23 ( talk) 14:55, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
If the above two paragraphs are accepted, in order to avoid WP:CITEKILL, i will conduct citation merging, and place them in their appropriate place within the paragraph. Bigbaby23 ( talk) 05:46, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
Emelianenko's impact on the combat sport of mixed martial arts has been compared to the likes of Michael jordan impact on basketball, Muhammad Ali impact on professional boxing, Wayne Gretzky impact on Professional ice hockey, Pele impact on soccer and Babe Ruth impact on professional baseball. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]
From December 22, 2000 until June 26, 2010, he was unbeaten in his 28 appearances, including wins over five former UFC champions, five former K-1 champions and a former Olympic medalist. Sports Illustrated named him the top mma fighter of the decade. [6] Sports and mma publications; Espn [7] Bleacher report, [8] Sherdog.com [9] , mmafighting.com [10] FightMatrix.com [11] list him as the greatest mma heavyweight fighter of all time. Emelianenko is also the longest reigning top Pound for Pound ranked fighter (7 years) in mma history. [12] [13] When looking at his fighting accomplishments statistically - Emelianenko clearly comes out the greatest mma fighter in the history of the sport. [14]
Fighters in other combat sports, such as Chuck Norris and Mike Tyson have stated they believed he is the greatest MMA fighter of all time. Nine current and former mma champions share this view as well. Opinion polls show that the majority of mma fans, share this opinion. Views of mma pundits vary between him and middleweight mma fighter Anderson Silva for the title "Greatest of all time". Bigbaby23 ( talk) 19:33, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
I will simply make that final line exactly of Anderson Silva text and caliber of references (i have checked all of them):
From December 22, 2000 until June 26, 2010, he was unbeaten in his 28 appearances, including wins over five former UFC champions, five former K-1 champions and two former Olympic medalists. Sports Illustrated named him the top mma fighter of the decade. [15] Sports and mma media; Espn, [16] Bleacher report, [17] Sherdog.com, [18] , mmafighting.com [19] and FightMatrix.com [20] list him as the greatest mma heavyweight fighter of all time. Emelianenko is also the longest reigning top Pound for Pound ranked fighter (7 years) in mma history. [21] [22] Martial artist Chuck Norris and boxing hall of fame inductee Mike Tyson and other publications have called Emelianenko the greatest mixed martial artist of all time. [23] [24] [25] [26] [27] [28] [29] Emelianenko retired from fighting on June 2012, [30] and is now president of the Russian mma union. [31] Bigbaby23 ( talk) 22:43, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Should the suggested paragraphs in the GOAT (greatest of all time) section in talk page, be in the lead of the article ? Bigbaby23 ( talk) 15:44, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
It seems, our differences have come to an end with version #4, and the RfC i started is not needed. As advised in Ending RfCs. i'm simply removing the RfC template Bigbaby23 ( talk) 22:57, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
From December 22, 2000 until June 26, 2010, Emelianenko was unbeaten in his 28 mma fights, including wins over five former UFC champions, five former K-1 champions and two former Olympic medalists. Sports Illustrated named him the top mma fighter of the decade.[1] He is considered the best ground-and-pound artist in the history of sport.[2] Sports and mma media; Espn,[3] Bleacher report,[4] Sherdog.com,[5] mmafighting.com[6] and FightMatrix.com[7] list him as the greatest mma heavyweight fighter of all time. Emelianenko is also the longest reigning top Pound for Pound ranked fighter (7 years) in mma history.[8][9] Former combat sports fighters Chuck Norris and Mike Tyson and other publications have called Emelianenko the greatest mixed martial artist of all time.[10][11] Emelianenko retired from fighting on June 2012,[12] and is now president of the Russian mma union.[13] Emelianenko's impact and legacy in mixed martial arts has been compared to the likes of Michael Jordan, Muhammad Ali, Wayne Gretzky, Pele and Babe Ruth, and their status in their respective sports.[14]
The raw format with the listed cited references, in available in my sandbox, or the article History page (my 3 request together there, make up the above paragraph). Bigbaby23 ( talk) 12:18, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
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That section seems a bit whitewashed and biased, it clearly needs further elaborations, as the details of Fedor avoiding to fight in the UFC are well documented and beyond doubts these days. Fedor dodged a potential deal to fight in the UFC, Dana White reached out multiple times in order to sign Fedor and to make a deal, offering Fedor an enormous amount of money, increasing the sums and incentives multiple times with conditions tailored towards Fedor in order to get him to sign a deal. Lesnar himself has gone on the record multiple times that he was ready and willing to grant Fedor a title bout immediately upon Fedors' potential arrival in UFC. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2152099-paul-heyman-brock-was-ready-willing-able-to-fight-fedor http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/10/17/4850788/dana-white-brock-lesnar-and-i-wanted-to-make-the-fedor-emelianenko Fedor also ranks firmly and undisputedly as the No.1 overrated MMA fighter these days, see: http://www.thetoptens.com/overrated-mma-fighters/ M-1 Global President Vadim Finkelstein has stated on the record that Fedor never actually wanted to fight Lesnar, although Finkelstein hasn't exactly ever given any further elaboration on it, and instead chose to remain dubios as to the reasons for Fedors apparent lack of willingness (or as some argue, guts). http://combatbear.com/6/post/2013/01/finkelstein-emelianenko-never-wanted-fight-against-lesnar.html http://www.cagepotato.com/fedor-emelianenko-and-vadim-finkelchtein-total-fcking-retards/ With sources aplenty, the section needs to be reworked and include the above mentioned well established and verifiable facts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.135.133.103 ( talk) 03:13, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
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Why is the "WMMAA" being accepted as an official organization? This is an "organization" that is so obscure it does not even have it's own wikipedia page. They've never been accepted as an official source on any MMA-related subject, so why is their ruling on the Emelianenko-Maldanado fight being accepted as official? The result in Fedor's MMA record should be restored to a victory.
Mmz557 ( talk) 19:25, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
Sherdog returned the win to Fedor. WMMAA has the right to change the result of the battle, they can only give recommendations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mann12345 ( talk • contribs) 21:52, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
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The Maldonado fight was not overturned by the MMA Union of Russia or EFN, the organization it took place in. The body that tried to overturn it doesn't even have the authority to do so. SHerdog corrected their mistake already and changed it back to a win, because that is what it is http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Fedor-Emelianenko-1500
If people would have even read the full article they would have known this as at the bottom of it, it clearly says:
Both Fight Nights Global and Fedor have been informed about the WMMAA decision. The Russian MMA Union, however, decided not to implement the altered decision. Gabdullin informed Tass.ru that the "result cannot be overturned."
"The WMMAA can express their views, but do not have the right to influence the judge's decision on the Russian professional promotion. This situation I regard as an unfounded attempt to take away a well-deserved victory from Russian legend Fedor Emelianenko." It's just a click bait headline http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/7/15/12198416/fedor-emelianenko-win-over-fabio-maldonado-overturned-to-draw
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The result for EFN 50 should still be down as a win. Although the WMMA ruled it a draw they still don't have power over the Russian MMA federation, and they won't overturn the decision. Check out sherdog and MMA.tv fight results they still have it as a win for Fedor. Jdel mma ( talk) 16:31, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
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Former combat sports fighters Chuck Norris and Mike Tyson; current MMA fighters such as Junior dos Santos, Fabrício Werdum, and Jose Aldo; and other publications have called Emelianenko the greatest mixed martial artist of all time.
I don't think I've ever seen a nested compound subject set off with semicolons before the main verb (passive in this example) ever before in my platinum-card reading history (Mrs Bussy from grade 2 would sure be proud).
This portentous construction really contributes more to tone than substance, IMHO. Ingenious, but probably inappropriate. — MaxEnt 16:52, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
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Chuck Norris, Mike Tyson, Junior dos Santos, Fabrício Werdum, and Jose Aldo have all called Emelianenko the greatest mixed martial artist of all time.
They are all wiki linked (and probably instantly recognizable to those who care anyway) and I don't think the et. al. term contributes much. — MaxEnt 16:57, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
And there's more:
MMA referee John McCarthy, sports commentator Michael Schiavello and others, have compared Emelianenko's impact and legacy in MMA to the likes of Muhammad Ali, Pele, Wayne Gretzky, and their legacies in their respective sports.
The comma before the main verb is almost certainly wrong.
MMA referee John McCarthy, sports commentator Michael Schiavello, and others have compared Emelianenko's impact and legacy in MMA to the likes of Muhammad Ali, Pele, Wayne Gretzky, and their legacies in their respective sports.
Yet again this poor neglected soul is terrified about neglecting his et. al. booster group. We're almost getting to Trump inauguration levels here. But if we must defend crowd size, here is the grammatical way to achieve this:
MMA referee John McCarthy and sports commentator Michael Schiavello, among others, have compared Emelianenko's impact and legacy in MMA to the likes of Muhammad Ali, Pele, Wayne Gretzky, and their legacies in their respective sports.
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I, for one, appreciate your grammatical pedantry. Recidivist23 ( talk) 22:57, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
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I have cited numerous sources that conflict with sherdogs tko. MEanwhile you are content to merely cite sherdog. Who is a more legitimate news source, sherdog or ESPN saying it was a KO?. The referee for that fight Herb Dean is on record saying Fedor was unconscious, and that is was subsequent strikes from Hendo that woke fedor up. But at that point the fight was over Herb Dean says. You can cite the controversy all you want but these sources are calling it a knockout, and all I have seen to the contrary is a statement saying sherdog essentially has the final say on all matters fight related. PortlandOregon97217 ( talk) 20:14, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
How is an interview of Fedor on Fedor's own official site not a reliable source? You'd rather have a media outlet like MMAJunkie as a source instead of the DIRECT source itself? Delinquent1904 ( talk) 17:04, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
PS:MMAjunkie is a part of USAtoday, and shoudl be presumed notable. I left a question in the reliable sources noticeboard about this and (except for a lone dissdenter) it was deemed generally reliable. I also hear that Bleacherreport is going to be handling sports for CNN now so keep a lookout for good articles from them in the future. PortlandOregon97217 ( talk) 21:21, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
93.72.158.176 continues to post that Fedor is Ukrainian, despite this issue having already been addressed once and twice. I don't want to get into an edit war but this is ridiculous. Someone should either tell Comrade Putin that Fedor is Ukrainian or block this IP. Chris Troutman ( talk) 13:15, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
There's been ongoing editing back and forth about Fedor being the "greatest of all time", which got started with this edit by Dkspartan1. I recommend the IPs that think this is an issue come up with text based on some reliable sources. I think it's more reasonable to assert that prior to Anderson Silva, Fedor was considered by some to be the greatest. Ultimately it doesn't matter because it's a matter of opinion. Chris Troutman ( talk) 18:52, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
List of Accolades and Citations:
An overview:
Fedor Status as the GOAT was somewhat challanged after his three loses, this was happening while Anderson Silva's winning streak remained unbroken. http://www.mmaweekly.com/greatest-of-all-time-anderson-silva-or-fedor-emelianenko
But later Silva lost his last two fights in a row, in brutal fashion (KO and Compound fracture to the leg) - so it negates the above. http://www.bjpenn.com/anderson-silva-fights-for-his-legacy/
There is a difference between Pound-for-pound ranking (P4P) and the accolade; Greatest fighter in MMA history (GOAT). A fighter can be number 1 P4P for a while (while active) but still not considered GOAT. it's usually the fighters that Reigned long as top P4P, that are considered in the GOAT discussion. (Fedor and Silva)
When Fedor had his first loss he dropped immediately in the P4P rankings. "Fedor Emelianenko dropped like a rock in various pound-for-pound polls after losing to Fabricio Werdum, and his win streak as twice as long as Silva's." http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/7/12/4511984/sb-nation-pound-for-pound-mma-rankings-where-do-silva-and-weidman-rate
The same thing happened to Anderson Silva after his first and second losses. He used to be number 1 P4P, he is currently number 7. http://www.ufc.com/rankings
So the playing field is leveled in that sense. And those two are the ones that are brought up in the GOAT discussions.
Used accolades in mma and their differences:
Fedor currently has Six known accolades:
1) The Greatest Master Of Ground-and-Pound in MMA History
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/6/3/3059390/analyzing-fedor-revolutionizing-ground-and-pound
2) The Greatest Heavyweight Of All Time:
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/MMAs-AllTime-Heavyweights-35201
http://www.espn.co.uk/ufc/sport/story/248959.html
3) The Longest reigning Top Pound-For-Pound fighter (P4P) in MMA History
http://www.mmamania.com/2011/7/28/2247829/ungodly-numbers-a-look-at-fedor-emelianenko
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/692384-5-reasons-fedor-emelianenko-vs-dan-henderson-is-fight-of-the-year — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigbaby23 ( talk • contribs) 20:07, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
4) The Greatest MMA Fighter Of All Time. GOAT
4.1) Most fans overwhelmingly consider Fedor as the GOAT. Fedor wins Fans polls by a huge margin over Anderson Silva
http://www.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/toughest-professional-fighters-in-history
http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f40/who-g-o-t-w-poll-2503923/
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/9/4/3291524/fedor-emelianenko--greatest-fighter-brazilian-mma-news
4.2) Many Fighting champions consider Fedor to be the GOAT:
http://www.mmabay.co.uk/2010/12/15/cain-velasquez-names-fedor-emelianenko-as-the-best-of-all-time-would-love-to-fight-him-down-the-line/ Bigbaby23 ( talk) 21:07, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
https://www.facebook.com/BasRutten/posts/442653112471726 Bigbaby23 ( talk) 20:51, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6V5Pf1sR5M
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1355001-junior-dos-santos-fedor-is-the-greatest-of-all-time
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/54789-the-top-10-myths-about-fedor-emelianenko — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigbaby23 ( talk • contribs) 08:23, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/54789-the-top-10-myths-about-fedor-emelianenko — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigbaby23 ( talk • contribs) 08:17, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/jeff_wagenheim/02/15/strikeforce/
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/3/23/2897477/mike-tyson-mma-rosie-odonnell-fedor-faber
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/54789-the-top-10-myths-about-fedor-emelianenko
4.3) Among analysts it's a close call between Fedor and Anderson:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/tim_marchman/02/10/silva.fedor/
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1909904-fedor-emelianenko-vs-anderson-silva-who-is-the-goat Bigbaby23 ( talk) 21:21, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
5) MMA Legend
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jun/22/sports/la-sp-sn-mma-fedor-emelianenko-20120622
http://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/fedor-emelianenko-the-last-emperor Bigbaby23 ( talk) 16:17, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
6) Humble
http://www.mmasportsmag.com/interview_fedor_emelianenko.htm
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/286837-fedor-fights-in-chicago
http://www.mmasportsmag.com/interview_fedor_emelianenko3.htm
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/jeff_wagenheim/02/15/strikeforce/
http://www.mmaweekly.com/fedor-emelianenko-talks-retirement-his-legacy-and-possible-drop-to-light-heavyweight Bigbaby23 ( talk) 14:57, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
"Emelianenko is Widely considered the greatest MMA heavyweight of all time, and the greatest master of the Ground-and-Pound fighting strategy in MMA History. MMA fans, overwhelmingly, also consider him to be the greatest MMA fighter of all time (GOAT), and so do many mma champions. Experts and analysts find it difficult to choose between him and Anderson Silva, for the accolade of GOAT. Though all consider him an MMA legend."
Suggested tweaks and ideas are welcome. Bigbaby23 ( talk) 16:57, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
My goodness. i specifically made subsections, in order to make everything clear. Go to 2) The Greatest Heavyweight Of All Time : Fedor is unquestionably #1 Heavyweight of all time. Now go to 4) The Greatest MMA Fighter Of All Time. GOAT subsection (which means considering all weight classes, Silva is a middleweight), you'll see it is divided into three parts 4.1, 4.2, 4.3 . I specifically do not make a POV. 4.1 = Fan Views (totally in favor Fedor), 4.2 = Fighting champions views (most on record cite fedor) 4.3 = Analysts (they are divided on the matter / cannot chose between the two). Hope things are getting clearer Bigbaby23 ( talk) 21:46, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
Emelianenko status in the world of mma is that of a legend. From December 22, 2000 until June 26, 2010, he was unbeaten in his 28 appearances, including wins over five former UFC champions and five former K-1 champions, In the rare moments where an opponent seemed to be getting the better of him, his resilience became legendary. The first time he truly tasted defeat was in 2010. Major mma publications consider him to be the greatest mma heavyweight of all time. He is quoted as the longest reigning top pound for pound ranked fighter in mma history, with experts, analyzing his fighting style, depicting him as a complete fighter who was also the greatest master of the ground-and-pound fighting technique. Seven-time world karate champion and judo and brazilian jiu-jitsu Black Belt, Chuck Norris, asserted in December 2007: "Fedor is the best and greatest fighter and Martial Artist of all time". In March 2012, Boxing Hall of Fame inductee, Mike Tyson, also stated that Emelianenko is the greatest fighter in the history of the sport. According to multiple opinion polls; by a large margin, mma fans, vote Emelianenko to be the greatest mma fighter of all time (G.O.A.T). Many current and former mma champions hold this view as well. Among mma analysts there is no consensus on the subject, and many of them note it is difficult to choose between Emelianenko and middleweight mma fighter Anderson Silva for the title of G.O.A.T.
Emelianenko is also notable for being a very humble fighter. "“I am human like everyone else. I don’t consider my achievements as a ‘legacy.’ I’ve never considered myself as a ‘legend’ – just a simple man with heart,”". When asked if he agrees or disagrees with all the positive accolades bestowed upon him, He answered: "I try not to give these characterizations any thought and try not to attach importance to them. A man becomes complacent if he considers himself great. I try to live a normal human life. But I also appreciate the fact that martial arts fans get very excited about fighters and enjoy talking about them. And I do not want to offend my fans. I very much appreciate all of the kind words people say about me." Bigbaby23 ( talk) 14:55, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
If the above two paragraphs are accepted, in order to avoid WP:CITEKILL, i will conduct citation merging, and place them in their appropriate place within the paragraph. Bigbaby23 ( talk) 05:46, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
Emelianenko's impact on the combat sport of mixed martial arts has been compared to the likes of Michael jordan impact on basketball, Muhammad Ali impact on professional boxing, Wayne Gretzky impact on Professional ice hockey, Pele impact on soccer and Babe Ruth impact on professional baseball. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]
From December 22, 2000 until June 26, 2010, he was unbeaten in his 28 appearances, including wins over five former UFC champions, five former K-1 champions and a former Olympic medalist. Sports Illustrated named him the top mma fighter of the decade. [6] Sports and mma publications; Espn [7] Bleacher report, [8] Sherdog.com [9] , mmafighting.com [10] FightMatrix.com [11] list him as the greatest mma heavyweight fighter of all time. Emelianenko is also the longest reigning top Pound for Pound ranked fighter (7 years) in mma history. [12] [13] When looking at his fighting accomplishments statistically - Emelianenko clearly comes out the greatest mma fighter in the history of the sport. [14]
Fighters in other combat sports, such as Chuck Norris and Mike Tyson have stated they believed he is the greatest MMA fighter of all time. Nine current and former mma champions share this view as well. Opinion polls show that the majority of mma fans, share this opinion. Views of mma pundits vary between him and middleweight mma fighter Anderson Silva for the title "Greatest of all time". Bigbaby23 ( talk) 19:33, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
I will simply make that final line exactly of Anderson Silva text and caliber of references (i have checked all of them):
From December 22, 2000 until June 26, 2010, he was unbeaten in his 28 appearances, including wins over five former UFC champions, five former K-1 champions and two former Olympic medalists. Sports Illustrated named him the top mma fighter of the decade. [15] Sports and mma media; Espn, [16] Bleacher report, [17] Sherdog.com, [18] , mmafighting.com [19] and FightMatrix.com [20] list him as the greatest mma heavyweight fighter of all time. Emelianenko is also the longest reigning top Pound for Pound ranked fighter (7 years) in mma history. [21] [22] Martial artist Chuck Norris and boxing hall of fame inductee Mike Tyson and other publications have called Emelianenko the greatest mixed martial artist of all time. [23] [24] [25] [26] [27] [28] [29] Emelianenko retired from fighting on June 2012, [30] and is now president of the Russian mma union. [31] Bigbaby23 ( talk) 22:43, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Should the suggested paragraphs in the GOAT (greatest of all time) section in talk page, be in the lead of the article ? Bigbaby23 ( talk) 15:44, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
It seems, our differences have come to an end with version #4, and the RfC i started is not needed. As advised in Ending RfCs. i'm simply removing the RfC template Bigbaby23 ( talk) 22:57, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
From December 22, 2000 until June 26, 2010, Emelianenko was unbeaten in his 28 mma fights, including wins over five former UFC champions, five former K-1 champions and two former Olympic medalists. Sports Illustrated named him the top mma fighter of the decade.[1] He is considered the best ground-and-pound artist in the history of sport.[2] Sports and mma media; Espn,[3] Bleacher report,[4] Sherdog.com,[5] mmafighting.com[6] and FightMatrix.com[7] list him as the greatest mma heavyweight fighter of all time. Emelianenko is also the longest reigning top Pound for Pound ranked fighter (7 years) in mma history.[8][9] Former combat sports fighters Chuck Norris and Mike Tyson and other publications have called Emelianenko the greatest mixed martial artist of all time.[10][11] Emelianenko retired from fighting on June 2012,[12] and is now president of the Russian mma union.[13] Emelianenko's impact and legacy in mixed martial arts has been compared to the likes of Michael Jordan, Muhammad Ali, Wayne Gretzky, Pele and Babe Ruth, and their status in their respective sports.[14]
The raw format with the listed cited references, in available in my sandbox, or the article History page (my 3 request together there, make up the above paragraph). Bigbaby23 ( talk) 12:18, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
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That section seems a bit whitewashed and biased, it clearly needs further elaborations, as the details of Fedor avoiding to fight in the UFC are well documented and beyond doubts these days. Fedor dodged a potential deal to fight in the UFC, Dana White reached out multiple times in order to sign Fedor and to make a deal, offering Fedor an enormous amount of money, increasing the sums and incentives multiple times with conditions tailored towards Fedor in order to get him to sign a deal. Lesnar himself has gone on the record multiple times that he was ready and willing to grant Fedor a title bout immediately upon Fedors' potential arrival in UFC. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2152099-paul-heyman-brock-was-ready-willing-able-to-fight-fedor http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/10/17/4850788/dana-white-brock-lesnar-and-i-wanted-to-make-the-fedor-emelianenko Fedor also ranks firmly and undisputedly as the No.1 overrated MMA fighter these days, see: http://www.thetoptens.com/overrated-mma-fighters/ M-1 Global President Vadim Finkelstein has stated on the record that Fedor never actually wanted to fight Lesnar, although Finkelstein hasn't exactly ever given any further elaboration on it, and instead chose to remain dubios as to the reasons for Fedors apparent lack of willingness (or as some argue, guts). http://combatbear.com/6/post/2013/01/finkelstein-emelianenko-never-wanted-fight-against-lesnar.html http://www.cagepotato.com/fedor-emelianenko-and-vadim-finkelchtein-total-fcking-retards/ With sources aplenty, the section needs to be reworked and include the above mentioned well established and verifiable facts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.135.133.103 ( talk) 03:13, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
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Why is the "WMMAA" being accepted as an official organization? This is an "organization" that is so obscure it does not even have it's own wikipedia page. They've never been accepted as an official source on any MMA-related subject, so why is their ruling on the Emelianenko-Maldanado fight being accepted as official? The result in Fedor's MMA record should be restored to a victory.
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Sherdog returned the win to Fedor. WMMAA has the right to change the result of the battle, they can only give recommendations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mann12345 ( talk • contribs) 21:52, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
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The Maldonado fight was not overturned by the MMA Union of Russia or EFN, the organization it took place in. The body that tried to overturn it doesn't even have the authority to do so. SHerdog corrected their mistake already and changed it back to a win, because that is what it is http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Fedor-Emelianenko-1500
If people would have even read the full article they would have known this as at the bottom of it, it clearly says:
Both Fight Nights Global and Fedor have been informed about the WMMAA decision. The Russian MMA Union, however, decided not to implement the altered decision. Gabdullin informed Tass.ru that the "result cannot be overturned."
"The WMMAA can express their views, but do not have the right to influence the judge's decision on the Russian professional promotion. This situation I regard as an unfounded attempt to take away a well-deserved victory from Russian legend Fedor Emelianenko." It's just a click bait headline http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/7/15/12198416/fedor-emelianenko-win-over-fabio-maldonado-overturned-to-draw
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The result for EFN 50 should still be down as a win. Although the WMMA ruled it a draw they still don't have power over the Russian MMA federation, and they won't overturn the decision. Check out sherdog and MMA.tv fight results they still have it as a win for Fedor. Jdel mma ( talk) 16:31, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
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Former combat sports fighters Chuck Norris and Mike Tyson; current MMA fighters such as Junior dos Santos, Fabrício Werdum, and Jose Aldo; and other publications have called Emelianenko the greatest mixed martial artist of all time.
I don't think I've ever seen a nested compound subject set off with semicolons before the main verb (passive in this example) ever before in my platinum-card reading history (Mrs Bussy from grade 2 would sure be proud).
This portentous construction really contributes more to tone than substance, IMHO. Ingenious, but probably inappropriate. — MaxEnt 16:52, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
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Chuck Norris, Mike Tyson, Junior dos Santos, Fabrício Werdum, and Jose Aldo have all called Emelianenko the greatest mixed martial artist of all time.
They are all wiki linked (and probably instantly recognizable to those who care anyway) and I don't think the et. al. term contributes much. — MaxEnt 16:57, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
And there's more:
MMA referee John McCarthy, sports commentator Michael Schiavello and others, have compared Emelianenko's impact and legacy in MMA to the likes of Muhammad Ali, Pele, Wayne Gretzky, and their legacies in their respective sports.
The comma before the main verb is almost certainly wrong.
MMA referee John McCarthy, sports commentator Michael Schiavello, and others have compared Emelianenko's impact and legacy in MMA to the likes of Muhammad Ali, Pele, Wayne Gretzky, and their legacies in their respective sports.
Yet again this poor neglected soul is terrified about neglecting his et. al. booster group. We're almost getting to Trump inauguration levels here. But if we must defend crowd size, here is the grammatical way to achieve this:
MMA referee John McCarthy and sports commentator Michael Schiavello, among others, have compared Emelianenko's impact and legacy in MMA to the likes of Muhammad Ali, Pele, Wayne Gretzky, and their legacies in their respective sports.
— MaxEnt 17:03, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
I, for one, appreciate your grammatical pedantry. Recidivist23 ( talk) 22:57, 13 April 2020 (UTC)