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Requested move 12 July 2020
The following is a closed discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
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The result of the move request was: not moved. As per discussion, a separate
WP:RM for all seasons may be proposed for consideration. (
non-admin closure)
~ Amkgp💬 19:45, 14 August 2020 (UTC)reply
I have reverted the removal of this
WP:RM, because that is now how you properly withdraw a
WP:RM. But now I would like to ping
Alucard 16 here to look at this, because I wonder if moving these articles to disambiguation by season like this might actually be correct... --
IJBall (
contribs •
talk) 19:42, 18 July 2020 (UTC)reply
That's a "procedural oppose", not a substantive oppose – obviously if this one should be moved then they should all be moved. That's not the issue. The real question is, are any of the seasons of this TV series actually titled with their numbers?! Because, if they are not, the current articles are all incorrectly named, and they should all be moved.... I'm going to ping
Alucard 16 (again) and
Gonnym here, as they are familiar with this issue in regards to the various Big Borther international editions. --
IJBall (
contribs •
talk) 20:10, 8 August 2020 (UTC)reply
I disagree. There may be some readers watching some pages but not others, so determining a naming convention via one page without having all respective pages properly listed is a disservice to readers of the pages not notified or listed.
Steel1943 (
talk) 01:25, 9 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose as per
Steel1943 would support a RM that lists all season articles - Sorry
IJBall I didn't notice the ping the first time. With the Big Brother franchise as a whole essentially each regional adaptation had to meet 1 of the following criteria in order to keep numbers or years in their titles: there needed to be a clear use of numbers (or years) in the title or it had to be a clear example of
commonly recognizable names.
Big Brother (American TV series) season articles kept numbers in their titles because it met criteria one with seasons 2-8, 10 & 20. That adaptation met criteria two with seasons 11-19 & 21-present.
Big Brother (British TV series) uses the standard
WP:NCTV format because the common names of the seasons can be years or numbers and there is not a clear cut preference for either. Looking at the logos en-Wiki currently has for this show it appears that seasons 2-4 used numbers meanwhile seasons 5-present are using subtitles. Given the fact only 3 seasons used numbers before switching to subtitles the standard
WP:NCTV format would apply so each season article would be titles Fear Factor: Khatron Ke Khiladi (season #). Khatron Ke Khiladi has to be in the title since it is present in every season. It also serves a
WP:NATURALDIS purpose because we already have an article labeled Fear Factor India which was the first incarnation of Fear Factor in this country that ran for one season. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat? 21:52, 8 August 2020 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Community Tech bot (
talk) 10:52, 29 February 2020 (UTC)reply
Requested move 12 July 2020
The following is a closed discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved. As per discussion, a separate
WP:RM for all seasons may be proposed for consideration. (
non-admin closure)
~ Amkgp💬 19:45, 14 August 2020 (UTC)reply
I have reverted the removal of this
WP:RM, because that is now how you properly withdraw a
WP:RM. But now I would like to ping
Alucard 16 here to look at this, because I wonder if moving these articles to disambiguation by season like this might actually be correct... --
IJBall (
contribs •
talk) 19:42, 18 July 2020 (UTC)reply
That's a "procedural oppose", not a substantive oppose – obviously if this one should be moved then they should all be moved. That's not the issue. The real question is, are any of the seasons of this TV series actually titled with their numbers?! Because, if they are not, the current articles are all incorrectly named, and they should all be moved.... I'm going to ping
Alucard 16 (again) and
Gonnym here, as they are familiar with this issue in regards to the various Big Borther international editions. --
IJBall (
contribs •
talk) 20:10, 8 August 2020 (UTC)reply
I disagree. There may be some readers watching some pages but not others, so determining a naming convention via one page without having all respective pages properly listed is a disservice to readers of the pages not notified or listed.
Steel1943 (
talk) 01:25, 9 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose as per
Steel1943 would support a RM that lists all season articles - Sorry
IJBall I didn't notice the ping the first time. With the Big Brother franchise as a whole essentially each regional adaptation had to meet 1 of the following criteria in order to keep numbers or years in their titles: there needed to be a clear use of numbers (or years) in the title or it had to be a clear example of
commonly recognizable names.
Big Brother (American TV series) season articles kept numbers in their titles because it met criteria one with seasons 2-8, 10 & 20. That adaptation met criteria two with seasons 11-19 & 21-present.
Big Brother (British TV series) uses the standard
WP:NCTV format because the common names of the seasons can be years or numbers and there is not a clear cut preference for either. Looking at the logos en-Wiki currently has for this show it appears that seasons 2-4 used numbers meanwhile seasons 5-present are using subtitles. Given the fact only 3 seasons used numbers before switching to subtitles the standard
WP:NCTV format would apply so each season article would be titles Fear Factor: Khatron Ke Khiladi (season #). Khatron Ke Khiladi has to be in the title since it is present in every season. It also serves a
WP:NATURALDIS purpose because we already have an article labeled Fear Factor India which was the first incarnation of Fear Factor in this country that ran for one season. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat? 21:52, 8 August 2020 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.