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"... Goethe's later Faust, which may be considered the more definitive classic work" - why definitive? Definitive of what? Why is it more of a classic than Marlowe? — Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]])
The name of Faust's first love in the play is Margarethe wich is commonly nicknamed Gretchen. Like Bob for Robert. I think it would be more appropriate to use her christian name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.188.206.62 ( talk) 00:49, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Not sure how important it is, but as far as I know, Faust was a late medieval - early modern restatement of "the Devil(demon) and the Smith", which as far as I know is the oldest parable in the western indo-european oral history. The green man symbolism is older, but the myth is lost as other than elves and faires etc. I think it's important for the Faust story, because it demonstrates that the faustian Archetype is essentially eternal. (Forge as fires of hell etc. Metalworking = magic.) -- 2601:188:4100:1304:844E:7E4F:F165:96E7 ( talk) 15:39, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
What is the story behind the anonymous account in the form of a chapbook? There aren't any fragments anymore, or can they still be digitized and uploaded to WikiSource? As for the translation, if P.F. Gentleman's work doesn't exist anymore, what year was it most probably destroyed? During Allied bombing in WWII? Or earlier, during one of the Napoleonic Wars? Depending on where the fragments were discovered, might make it less probable that either Marlowe or Goethe got his hands on it. So long as we are talking about unpreserved works, it makes just as much sense to say that separate versions of the legend of the Doctor of Paris existed, alternately supplying inspiration to Jacob Bidermann to refine his Cenodoxus as it did for Goethe to come along and draft his Faust.
Okay my ex believes himself to be Mephestophilos or however ya'll spell that....what the crap? What is the story behind mephesto. He think's he's some kind of demon here to bring the world back to which it came from. --K-os
You just cannot seriously say that a tale of selling one's soul to the devil 'has some base in history' any more than 'ascending to heaven on the back of an eagle' has some basis in aerodynamics. User:Wetman
You have to take in to consideration the time period. Nearly everything was related to heaven or hell in some way. So when you come across a man who, in societies eyes, have pledged their lives to sin and almost pride themselves in it, they would think you were in league with the devil. User:NexNecis
[2] I think more than a few people have seen clear influence of the Faust tale on Anakin Skywalker's evolution into Darth Vader, and George Lucas is on record in an interview admitting as such. - knoodelhed 04:38, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
The comic book V for Vendetta, by Alan Moore and David Lloyd, makes reference to Faust and the "deal" he made.
What the hell is the "deal" that is being referred to? ...... smart ass — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.219.245.222 ( talk) 06:06, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Wtf? Myths as memes? What is that comment doing in this piece?
The name is probably unrelated to the German for "fist". It is rather, a Latin name, faustus "auspicious". Therefore, Faust is "Germanized" from Faustus, not Faustus "Latinized" from Faust. At least, to claim either is not trivial and would need some sort of reference. dab (ᛏ) 17:14, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
As part of the 2006 DCI Season, Phantom Regiment's show is entitled "Faust" and consists of Scythian Suite by Sergei Prokofiev, Ave Maria by Franz Biebl, Piano Concerto by John Corigliano, and Gustav Mahler's Symphony No. 2 ("Resurrection"). Should this be included in the music section as reference to Faust?
It has been included but someone was under the impression that it was original music. I have corrected that error.
Simply performing the music of another composer adds nothing to the historical understanding of Faust. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.68.54.186 ( talk) 16:25, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Portuguese metal band Moonspell has a song called "Mephisto". "I can teach you wonders if you give me your soul."
Are there any sources for the suggestion that Mephisto comes from "me Phisto philos", or is this original research on the part of whoever added it? — An gr 11:15, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Kamelot currently shows up twice in the 'popular music' section. Is there any valid reason why it's listed twice? I don't konw which one should stay, but at least I fixed the formatting on the links in both of them. -- Googleaseerch 04:47, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
I have tagged this section with {{toomuchtrivia}}, for it just about lists every reference to Faust under the sun. The title, I think, is a signpost for drive-by editors to leave their mark on wikipedia by adding pointless references. It should perhaps be retitled to emphasise stricter criteria. All other references can be moved to Crap with some reference, however important, to Faust and we can assign it to Fancruft and Drive-by-editing Wikiproject. Thoughts? Brainmuncher 08:34, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Steveynclan 21:06, 23 February 2007 (UTC) to whom this may concern: salutations, i am interested in the works of anna bijns; to be specific, her dutch faust play. can anyone tell me how and where i might find this script work?? sincerely, steve
Well? Where are they? I can only find one at the bottom. Conjure up some more; use whatever spells and potions necessary. If this fails, well, there is always a friend standing by who might help, in exchange for your soul. The fruit will taste just as sweet with or without this trifle. Brainmuncher 09:02, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
why does it list Oscar Wilde, Klaus Mann, etc... and not The Picture of Dorian Grey, etc... Even though (in Oscar Wilde's case) it is his only work, it still should not be a link to the author, Oscar Wilde did not make a deal with the devil... Dorian Grey did... not that it's confusing or anything. Is there a reason the books aren't listed there? (this is all in reference to the end of the first paragraph). -- 66.134.52.222 05:11, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
that was me that said that... Sorry, forgot to sign in before. -- illumi 05:14, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Chaucer's FRIAR'S TALE from CANTERBURY TALES might be considered another source for the "deal with the devil" idea. A con man befriends a demon and advises him to seize any object that has been cursed by taking "damn it" or "to hell with it" literally. Later, when the con man tries to extort money from an innocent woman, she curses him, and the demon seizes the con man's soul, following the man's own advice.
I would also like to point out that the whole Faust concept depends on the notion of a demon's having power independent of God. In Dante's theology as expressed in THE DIVINE COMEDY, for example, Satan is helpless and the demons serve God by punishing sinners; under this theology the Faust story could never have occurred. Evidentally new ideas arose between Dante's time and Chaucer's. CharlesTheBold 22:13, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
Maybe it would be worth it to note the similarities between the Book of Job and the story of Faust? They both begin with God and the devil basically making a bet concerning whether a person will have faith in God, more or less. Maybe it's a bit far-fetched. Any thoughts? 66.32.164.14 ( talk) 21:03, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Here are some links:
[3] --a sentence in this says "Mephisto and God collaborate in exactly the same way that Jahvé and Satan do at the beginning of the Book of Job."
[4] --has a section entitled "Influence of the Book of Job"
[5] --mentions a German play in which similarities between Faust and Job are emphasized
[6] --according to this, the Prologue in Heaven is "modeled on the Book of Job"
I hope these are any good
66.32.164.14 ( talk) 22:13, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
While I'm not sure if Fust is indeed a source of the Faust legend, I am very sure that I can find multiple reliable sources claiming that, so I added it. If you're sure that I'm wrong and have sources to back it up, feel free to change it. superluser t c 2008 July 19, 07:48 (UTC)
The Peter Cook and Dudley moore film "Bedazzled" (1968) was essentially a comic retelling of the faust legend. is this worth inclusion? i find it more noteworthy than the fact in Ghostrider nicholas cage briefly reads the book 89.241.6.9 ( talk) 17:47, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
The PBS kids show Wishbone displays the story of Faust in one episode "Fleabitten Bargain", please add it if you like... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wishbone_episodes Dragonblades ( talk)
Starring Catherine Mary Stewart and George Gilmour. Director: Menahem Golan. Faust story. German production by Golan/Globus. Distributed by MGM Home Entertainment as DVD with PG Rating and released 2004.08.24 Old Testament movie in a disco-musical format. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080380/usercomments http://www.slantmagazine.com/Film/film_review.asp?ID=1208 -- Sponsion ( talk) 19:22, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Shouldn't this page include a summary of the legend or of its main varients? If anyone knows the story could they please add it? IndridCold13 ( talk) 08:37, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
"Sources of the legend" sections notes an edition of Goethe's version claims Paracelsus was used as a model for the character. This may be true, but we go on to say that "Parcelsus' works were copied by his fellow Rosicrucians and became the foundation of much scientific investigation. The Dictionary of Scientific Biography calls him 'a great doctor, whose influence has been enormous.' "
Paracelsus was an occult alchemist. His claims were generally fantastical and based more on philosophy and superstition than science, not unlike the Daoist "alchemists." He is especially notable for claiming spirits and artificial humans could be created by putting horse shit in jars.
I recommend deleting this sentence. 67.22.255.19 ( talk) 00:24, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
The BBC programme In Our Time presented by Melvyn Bragg has an episode which may be about this subject (if not moving this note to the appropriate talk page earns cookies). You can add it to "External links" by pasting * {{In Our Time|Faust|p004y2bt}}. Rich Farmbrough, 03:14, 16 September 2010 (UTC).
Death Note seems to borrow heavily from the plot, and imagery.
-G — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.24.148.136 ( talk) 08:34, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
This article is the weirdest page I've ever seen on Wikipedia. Every link on the page is an external link, and apparently Wikipedia cannot inform me on the term Faust or Faustian. At first I thought it was a disambiguation page, but it is not. I question the validity of why this page exists and think it should be deleted. Bcwilmot ( talk) 23:20, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
Amazing, ended up here on the same day with the same thought. Reformatting to a disambig. page would probably be the easiest way to clean this up, assuming it isn't deleted. 76.16.242.35 ( talk) 23:28, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
Faust merits a better entry! I do not have time to make edits at the moment, but this is fair warning: by any scholarly standard, this article in its present state is unacceptable. The lack of historical data, literary research, and overall presentation qualify this entry as one in sore need of development and rewriting. Anyone care to step up? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skelbe-stin ( talk • contribs) 00:26, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
Soul Cartel is a manwha highly and obviously influenced by Faustian stories two of the main characters are none other than a reborn Faust and Mephistopheles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul_Cartel
In the 1st 'graph of the lead, we said
A more ambitious editor could verify whether EB's wording provides actual verification, but i'm more concerned about the formatting for the moment: Faust is the work, but the context implies the intent that "a Faust" (i've added the emphasis) refers to someone like the namesake of the medieval book (and to the book Faust itself), i.e. a person, not a work; the bold-facing is justified bcz Faustian is a Rdr to here, and thus functions as an "alternate title" for the topic, calling for its first mention to be bolded for those entering the article via that Rdr (and thus expecting "Faustian" to appear in bold somewhere in the lead section -- even tho i'm inclined to argue it should thus be worked into in the lead sentence). But the page "Faustian" refers to is a (quasi-)article, not even a quasi-work, and also deserves no italics. Thus i edit to
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Jerzy•
t 14:44, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
The professional writer who is my humanities consultant joins me in considering "adaptations" a better word than "appropriations" to describe works inspired by an earlier work. Other opinions?
--
Jerzy•
t 15:25, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
What is Faust's first name? There is another article about Johann Georg Faust, but is a first name used in the fictional works as well? ♆ CUSH ♆ 21:41, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
The album "Beethoven's Last Night" by Trans-Siberian Orchestra tells a story that is clearly largely based on Faust, so shouldn't it be added to the "Music" section? 131.156.156.23 ( talk) 10:10, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
I just discovered that the article for "Beethoven's Last Night" on Wikipedia ( /info/en/?search=Beethoven%27s_Last_Night) is included under the category "Works Based on the Faust Legend", so clearly it has already been acknowledged elsewhere. 131.156.156.23 ( talk) 10:16, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
Hallo @ 11614soup: thank you for your edit, but I'm not sure that it is appropriate here: The article, as stated in the beginning, is concerned with the "German legendary character". This cannot be the one of Augustine, at whose time there was no Germany and (for all we know) no German legend about Faust. As stated in the article (and in agreement which what I've read in the literature), the German legends are based on the historical Faust character living in the Renaissance (15th and 16th century). Therefore, I think that the sentence regarding the bishop (from antiquity) by name of "Faustus" should be removed unless one can also give evidence that this was a source for some of the Faust characters described here. There were many other historical figures named Faustus in that time. -- Qcomp ( talk) 17:02, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
Faustus was a rather wide-spead Roman name, because it means "favorable, fortunate, auspicious, prosperous, lucky". The feminine version of the name is Fausta. See: http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.04.0059:entry=faustus1
"faustus1 faustus , a, um, adj. for favostus, from faveo; lit., favorable; hence, I.of favorable or fortunate omen, fortunate, favorable, auspicious, prosperous, lucky (rare but class.; cf.: “felix, fortunatus, beatus, prosperus, dexter, secundus):"
The names derive from the verb "faveo": "I favour", "I support", "I encourage", "I indulge". See: http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=faveo&fromdoc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0059
Though 19th century etymologists noticed three meanings of faveo in Latin texts.:
I.to be favorable, to be well disposed or inclined towards, to favor, promote, befriend, countenance, protect (class.; syn.: studeo, foveo, diligo, amo)."
In German, Faust means "fist". There is no discussion of what, if any, meaning or symbolism is implied. WilliamSommerwerck ( talk) 13:17, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
You could run on for several pages with these. To give an obvious example... Little Shop of Horrors makes it clear "the plant" will grant Seymour whatever he wants, if Seymour gets him human blood. In the heavily edited theatrical version, Seymour and Audrey barely escape, but in the film's original version, both are eaten by the plant. WilliamSommerwerck ( talk) 13:17, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Has this not been thought of? Here is an article that touches on the film as having a faustian plotline:
https://collinwatchesmovies.wordpress.com/2016/06/09/the-imaginarium-of-doctor-parnassus/
The next review is "The Devil and Max Devlin," the previous one is "Bedazzled." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.24.131.255 ( talk) 15:39, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
Has this not been thought of? Here is an article that touches on the film as having a faustian plotline:
https://collinwatchesmovies.wordpress.com/2016/06/09/the-imaginarium-of-doctor-parnassus/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.24.131.255 ( talk) 20:37, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
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"... Goethe's later Faust, which may be considered the more definitive classic work" - why definitive? Definitive of what? Why is it more of a classic than Marlowe? — Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]])
The name of Faust's first love in the play is Margarethe wich is commonly nicknamed Gretchen. Like Bob for Robert. I think it would be more appropriate to use her christian name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.188.206.62 ( talk) 00:49, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Not sure how important it is, but as far as I know, Faust was a late medieval - early modern restatement of "the Devil(demon) and the Smith", which as far as I know is the oldest parable in the western indo-european oral history. The green man symbolism is older, but the myth is lost as other than elves and faires etc. I think it's important for the Faust story, because it demonstrates that the faustian Archetype is essentially eternal. (Forge as fires of hell etc. Metalworking = magic.) -- 2601:188:4100:1304:844E:7E4F:F165:96E7 ( talk) 15:39, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
What is the story behind the anonymous account in the form of a chapbook? There aren't any fragments anymore, or can they still be digitized and uploaded to WikiSource? As for the translation, if P.F. Gentleman's work doesn't exist anymore, what year was it most probably destroyed? During Allied bombing in WWII? Or earlier, during one of the Napoleonic Wars? Depending on where the fragments were discovered, might make it less probable that either Marlowe or Goethe got his hands on it. So long as we are talking about unpreserved works, it makes just as much sense to say that separate versions of the legend of the Doctor of Paris existed, alternately supplying inspiration to Jacob Bidermann to refine his Cenodoxus as it did for Goethe to come along and draft his Faust.
Okay my ex believes himself to be Mephestophilos or however ya'll spell that....what the crap? What is the story behind mephesto. He think's he's some kind of demon here to bring the world back to which it came from. --K-os
You just cannot seriously say that a tale of selling one's soul to the devil 'has some base in history' any more than 'ascending to heaven on the back of an eagle' has some basis in aerodynamics. User:Wetman
You have to take in to consideration the time period. Nearly everything was related to heaven or hell in some way. So when you come across a man who, in societies eyes, have pledged their lives to sin and almost pride themselves in it, they would think you were in league with the devil. User:NexNecis
[2] I think more than a few people have seen clear influence of the Faust tale on Anakin Skywalker's evolution into Darth Vader, and George Lucas is on record in an interview admitting as such. - knoodelhed 04:38, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
The comic book V for Vendetta, by Alan Moore and David Lloyd, makes reference to Faust and the "deal" he made.
What the hell is the "deal" that is being referred to? ...... smart ass — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.219.245.222 ( talk) 06:06, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Wtf? Myths as memes? What is that comment doing in this piece?
The name is probably unrelated to the German for "fist". It is rather, a Latin name, faustus "auspicious". Therefore, Faust is "Germanized" from Faustus, not Faustus "Latinized" from Faust. At least, to claim either is not trivial and would need some sort of reference. dab (ᛏ) 17:14, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
As part of the 2006 DCI Season, Phantom Regiment's show is entitled "Faust" and consists of Scythian Suite by Sergei Prokofiev, Ave Maria by Franz Biebl, Piano Concerto by John Corigliano, and Gustav Mahler's Symphony No. 2 ("Resurrection"). Should this be included in the music section as reference to Faust?
It has been included but someone was under the impression that it was original music. I have corrected that error.
Simply performing the music of another composer adds nothing to the historical understanding of Faust. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.68.54.186 ( talk) 16:25, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Portuguese metal band Moonspell has a song called "Mephisto". "I can teach you wonders if you give me your soul."
Are there any sources for the suggestion that Mephisto comes from "me Phisto philos", or is this original research on the part of whoever added it? — An gr 11:15, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Kamelot currently shows up twice in the 'popular music' section. Is there any valid reason why it's listed twice? I don't konw which one should stay, but at least I fixed the formatting on the links in both of them. -- Googleaseerch 04:47, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
I have tagged this section with {{toomuchtrivia}}, for it just about lists every reference to Faust under the sun. The title, I think, is a signpost for drive-by editors to leave their mark on wikipedia by adding pointless references. It should perhaps be retitled to emphasise stricter criteria. All other references can be moved to Crap with some reference, however important, to Faust and we can assign it to Fancruft and Drive-by-editing Wikiproject. Thoughts? Brainmuncher 08:34, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Steveynclan 21:06, 23 February 2007 (UTC) to whom this may concern: salutations, i am interested in the works of anna bijns; to be specific, her dutch faust play. can anyone tell me how and where i might find this script work?? sincerely, steve
Well? Where are they? I can only find one at the bottom. Conjure up some more; use whatever spells and potions necessary. If this fails, well, there is always a friend standing by who might help, in exchange for your soul. The fruit will taste just as sweet with or without this trifle. Brainmuncher 09:02, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
why does it list Oscar Wilde, Klaus Mann, etc... and not The Picture of Dorian Grey, etc... Even though (in Oscar Wilde's case) it is his only work, it still should not be a link to the author, Oscar Wilde did not make a deal with the devil... Dorian Grey did... not that it's confusing or anything. Is there a reason the books aren't listed there? (this is all in reference to the end of the first paragraph). -- 66.134.52.222 05:11, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
that was me that said that... Sorry, forgot to sign in before. -- illumi 05:14, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Chaucer's FRIAR'S TALE from CANTERBURY TALES might be considered another source for the "deal with the devil" idea. A con man befriends a demon and advises him to seize any object that has been cursed by taking "damn it" or "to hell with it" literally. Later, when the con man tries to extort money from an innocent woman, she curses him, and the demon seizes the con man's soul, following the man's own advice.
I would also like to point out that the whole Faust concept depends on the notion of a demon's having power independent of God. In Dante's theology as expressed in THE DIVINE COMEDY, for example, Satan is helpless and the demons serve God by punishing sinners; under this theology the Faust story could never have occurred. Evidentally new ideas arose between Dante's time and Chaucer's. CharlesTheBold 22:13, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
Maybe it would be worth it to note the similarities between the Book of Job and the story of Faust? They both begin with God and the devil basically making a bet concerning whether a person will have faith in God, more or less. Maybe it's a bit far-fetched. Any thoughts? 66.32.164.14 ( talk) 21:03, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Here are some links:
[3] --a sentence in this says "Mephisto and God collaborate in exactly the same way that Jahvé and Satan do at the beginning of the Book of Job."
[4] --has a section entitled "Influence of the Book of Job"
[5] --mentions a German play in which similarities between Faust and Job are emphasized
[6] --according to this, the Prologue in Heaven is "modeled on the Book of Job"
I hope these are any good
66.32.164.14 ( talk) 22:13, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
While I'm not sure if Fust is indeed a source of the Faust legend, I am very sure that I can find multiple reliable sources claiming that, so I added it. If you're sure that I'm wrong and have sources to back it up, feel free to change it. superluser t c 2008 July 19, 07:48 (UTC)
The Peter Cook and Dudley moore film "Bedazzled" (1968) was essentially a comic retelling of the faust legend. is this worth inclusion? i find it more noteworthy than the fact in Ghostrider nicholas cage briefly reads the book 89.241.6.9 ( talk) 17:47, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
The PBS kids show Wishbone displays the story of Faust in one episode "Fleabitten Bargain", please add it if you like... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wishbone_episodes Dragonblades ( talk)
Starring Catherine Mary Stewart and George Gilmour. Director: Menahem Golan. Faust story. German production by Golan/Globus. Distributed by MGM Home Entertainment as DVD with PG Rating and released 2004.08.24 Old Testament movie in a disco-musical format. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080380/usercomments http://www.slantmagazine.com/Film/film_review.asp?ID=1208 -- Sponsion ( talk) 19:22, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Shouldn't this page include a summary of the legend or of its main varients? If anyone knows the story could they please add it? IndridCold13 ( talk) 08:37, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
"Sources of the legend" sections notes an edition of Goethe's version claims Paracelsus was used as a model for the character. This may be true, but we go on to say that "Parcelsus' works were copied by his fellow Rosicrucians and became the foundation of much scientific investigation. The Dictionary of Scientific Biography calls him 'a great doctor, whose influence has been enormous.' "
Paracelsus was an occult alchemist. His claims were generally fantastical and based more on philosophy and superstition than science, not unlike the Daoist "alchemists." He is especially notable for claiming spirits and artificial humans could be created by putting horse shit in jars.
I recommend deleting this sentence. 67.22.255.19 ( talk) 00:24, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
The BBC programme In Our Time presented by Melvyn Bragg has an episode which may be about this subject (if not moving this note to the appropriate talk page earns cookies). You can add it to "External links" by pasting * {{In Our Time|Faust|p004y2bt}}. Rich Farmbrough, 03:14, 16 September 2010 (UTC).
Death Note seems to borrow heavily from the plot, and imagery.
-G — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.24.148.136 ( talk) 08:34, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
This article is the weirdest page I've ever seen on Wikipedia. Every link on the page is an external link, and apparently Wikipedia cannot inform me on the term Faust or Faustian. At first I thought it was a disambiguation page, but it is not. I question the validity of why this page exists and think it should be deleted. Bcwilmot ( talk) 23:20, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
Amazing, ended up here on the same day with the same thought. Reformatting to a disambig. page would probably be the easiest way to clean this up, assuming it isn't deleted. 76.16.242.35 ( talk) 23:28, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
Faust merits a better entry! I do not have time to make edits at the moment, but this is fair warning: by any scholarly standard, this article in its present state is unacceptable. The lack of historical data, literary research, and overall presentation qualify this entry as one in sore need of development and rewriting. Anyone care to step up? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skelbe-stin ( talk • contribs) 00:26, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
Soul Cartel is a manwha highly and obviously influenced by Faustian stories two of the main characters are none other than a reborn Faust and Mephistopheles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul_Cartel
In the 1st 'graph of the lead, we said
A more ambitious editor could verify whether EB's wording provides actual verification, but i'm more concerned about the formatting for the moment: Faust is the work, but the context implies the intent that "a Faust" (i've added the emphasis) refers to someone like the namesake of the medieval book (and to the book Faust itself), i.e. a person, not a work; the bold-facing is justified bcz Faustian is a Rdr to here, and thus functions as an "alternate title" for the topic, calling for its first mention to be bolded for those entering the article via that Rdr (and thus expecting "Faustian" to appear in bold somewhere in the lead section -- even tho i'm inclined to argue it should thus be worked into in the lead sentence). But the page "Faustian" refers to is a (quasi-)article, not even a quasi-work, and also deserves no italics. Thus i edit to
--
Jerzy•
t 14:44, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
The professional writer who is my humanities consultant joins me in considering "adaptations" a better word than "appropriations" to describe works inspired by an earlier work. Other opinions?
--
Jerzy•
t 15:25, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
What is Faust's first name? There is another article about Johann Georg Faust, but is a first name used in the fictional works as well? ♆ CUSH ♆ 21:41, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
The album "Beethoven's Last Night" by Trans-Siberian Orchestra tells a story that is clearly largely based on Faust, so shouldn't it be added to the "Music" section? 131.156.156.23 ( talk) 10:10, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
I just discovered that the article for "Beethoven's Last Night" on Wikipedia ( /info/en/?search=Beethoven%27s_Last_Night) is included under the category "Works Based on the Faust Legend", so clearly it has already been acknowledged elsewhere. 131.156.156.23 ( talk) 10:16, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
Hallo @ 11614soup: thank you for your edit, but I'm not sure that it is appropriate here: The article, as stated in the beginning, is concerned with the "German legendary character". This cannot be the one of Augustine, at whose time there was no Germany and (for all we know) no German legend about Faust. As stated in the article (and in agreement which what I've read in the literature), the German legends are based on the historical Faust character living in the Renaissance (15th and 16th century). Therefore, I think that the sentence regarding the bishop (from antiquity) by name of "Faustus" should be removed unless one can also give evidence that this was a source for some of the Faust characters described here. There were many other historical figures named Faustus in that time. -- Qcomp ( talk) 17:02, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
Faustus was a rather wide-spead Roman name, because it means "favorable, fortunate, auspicious, prosperous, lucky". The feminine version of the name is Fausta. See: http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.04.0059:entry=faustus1
"faustus1 faustus , a, um, adj. for favostus, from faveo; lit., favorable; hence, I.of favorable or fortunate omen, fortunate, favorable, auspicious, prosperous, lucky (rare but class.; cf.: “felix, fortunatus, beatus, prosperus, dexter, secundus):"
The names derive from the verb "faveo": "I favour", "I support", "I encourage", "I indulge". See: http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=faveo&fromdoc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0059
Though 19th century etymologists noticed three meanings of faveo in Latin texts.:
I.to be favorable, to be well disposed or inclined towards, to favor, promote, befriend, countenance, protect (class.; syn.: studeo, foveo, diligo, amo)."
In German, Faust means "fist". There is no discussion of what, if any, meaning or symbolism is implied. WilliamSommerwerck ( talk) 13:17, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
You could run on for several pages with these. To give an obvious example... Little Shop of Horrors makes it clear "the plant" will grant Seymour whatever he wants, if Seymour gets him human blood. In the heavily edited theatrical version, Seymour and Audrey barely escape, but in the film's original version, both are eaten by the plant. WilliamSommerwerck ( talk) 13:17, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Has this not been thought of? Here is an article that touches on the film as having a faustian plotline:
https://collinwatchesmovies.wordpress.com/2016/06/09/the-imaginarium-of-doctor-parnassus/
The next review is "The Devil and Max Devlin," the previous one is "Bedazzled." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.24.131.255 ( talk) 15:39, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
Has this not been thought of? Here is an article that touches on the film as having a faustian plotline:
https://collinwatchesmovies.wordpress.com/2016/06/09/the-imaginarium-of-doctor-parnassus/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.24.131.255 ( talk) 20:37, 8 July 2018 (UTC)