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I just redirected Fatimids from here to Fatimid Caliphate ( this edit), but I noticed that there are a lot of possible redirects to consider, so it might be worth opening a discussion here if there are disagreements. I'm slightly concerned that this article has extensive overlap with the Fatimid Caliphate article's topic, though I understand it's a work in progress. The Fatimid Caliphate article is more complete, has a wider scope, and has been established for a while, so we should continue to treat it as the main/overview article. As I understand, this article is intended to focus more narrowly on the Fatimid dynastic family, lineage, and maybe other details on their legitimacy, legacy after the caliphate, etc; though even this would be within scope of the other article if article size wasn't a consideration.
It's also important to note that most reliable sources use dynastic labels (Fatimids, Ayyubids, Almohads, etc) to refer to the relevant historical period, state, and dynasty, not just the dynasty specifically. Therefore a term like "Fatimids" on its own does not, in most literature, refer to the dynasty only. Relevantly, comparable sources like specialized encyclopedias (e.g. Encyclopaedia of Islam, Oxford Encyclopedia of the Islamic World, and the like) typically summarize all of these aspects in one article. (I know this isn't news to most interested editors.)
So preserving the overview article ( Fatimid Caliphate) as the starting point for most readers is important, I believe, in helping them navigate the topic. In practical terms I think this should mean that most links and redirects should target Fatimid Caliphate, unless they reasonably have a more specific scope pointing to this article. R Prazeres ( talk) 19:12, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
I've added a link to List of Fatimid caliphs in one of the lower sections, but please feel free to revise that link to a more appropriate spot if needed. More importantly, that list article should probably be merged with this article. Now that we have an article about the dynasty specifically, there's really no reason for the list of dynastic rulers to be separate, as the information is clearly relevant here and neither the list nor this article are long enough to justify being split. I don't have time at the moment to oversee a full merger proposal, so just leaving this comment instead for now. It may be uncontroversial enough to just go ahead and make a bold merge, if interested editors also agree. Cheers, R Prazeres ( talk) 09:39, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
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I just redirected Fatimids from here to Fatimid Caliphate ( this edit), but I noticed that there are a lot of possible redirects to consider, so it might be worth opening a discussion here if there are disagreements. I'm slightly concerned that this article has extensive overlap with the Fatimid Caliphate article's topic, though I understand it's a work in progress. The Fatimid Caliphate article is more complete, has a wider scope, and has been established for a while, so we should continue to treat it as the main/overview article. As I understand, this article is intended to focus more narrowly on the Fatimid dynastic family, lineage, and maybe other details on their legitimacy, legacy after the caliphate, etc; though even this would be within scope of the other article if article size wasn't a consideration.
It's also important to note that most reliable sources use dynastic labels (Fatimids, Ayyubids, Almohads, etc) to refer to the relevant historical period, state, and dynasty, not just the dynasty specifically. Therefore a term like "Fatimids" on its own does not, in most literature, refer to the dynasty only. Relevantly, comparable sources like specialized encyclopedias (e.g. Encyclopaedia of Islam, Oxford Encyclopedia of the Islamic World, and the like) typically summarize all of these aspects in one article. (I know this isn't news to most interested editors.)
So preserving the overview article ( Fatimid Caliphate) as the starting point for most readers is important, I believe, in helping them navigate the topic. In practical terms I think this should mean that most links and redirects should target Fatimid Caliphate, unless they reasonably have a more specific scope pointing to this article. R Prazeres ( talk) 19:12, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
I've added a link to List of Fatimid caliphs in one of the lower sections, but please feel free to revise that link to a more appropriate spot if needed. More importantly, that list article should probably be merged with this article. Now that we have an article about the dynasty specifically, there's really no reason for the list of dynastic rulers to be separate, as the information is clearly relevant here and neither the list nor this article are long enough to justify being split. I don't have time at the moment to oversee a full merger proposal, so just leaving this comment instead for now. It may be uncontroversial enough to just go ahead and make a bold merge, if interested editors also agree. Cheers, R Prazeres ( talk) 09:39, 25 August 2022 (UTC)