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My feeling is that it's not appropriate to have the msg:Europe box on here, when the Faroes aren't listed in that box. What does anyone else think?-- ALargeElk 13:50, 21 May 2004 (UTC)
They are listed in that box in my browser. I have removed msg:amt because the faroe islands is not a countie of denmark.-- Quackor 10:12, 28 May 2004 (UTC+1)
Are the Faroe Islands a Danish dependency? If the islands are a part of the Kingdom of Denmark, how can they be regarded as a dependendy which have to be bodies formally not a part of the motherland? Jakro64 16:33, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)
The Faroe Islands are a part of the Kingdom of Denmark. They aren't a dependency, but rather are a self-governing overseas administrative division of Denmark (since 1948). Before this I believe that they were indeed a dependency/colony? The official governing constitution is the Danish constitution of 5 June 1953.
I agree there are similarities, but the Danish construction is very different from a federal state. Iceland was granted independence (in union with Denmark) in 1918 following years and years of Danish neglect of the island and increasing demands for home rule or outright independence (the results somewhat resembled the Irish Free State.) The arrangement was never a success, and Iceland didn't have an independent foreign policy. It was conducted by the Danish Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Copenhagen, and was, in reality, little more than promoting the interests of Icelandic fish exports and replacing the line "the King of Denmark" with "the King of Denmark and Iceland".
Home rule for the Faroe Islands was introduced in 1948 as a response to increased calls for independence there as well (though several Danish politicians opposed this, fearing the dissolution of the nation. Ultimately, they decided to consider home rule to be a lesser evil than outright Faroese independence.) Besides, the separation from Denmark proper during World War II had clearly proven that the Faroese people were capable of managing more of its own affairs than had previously been believed in Denmark. When similar wishes were expressed by Greenland in the 1970s, the issue had become less controversial and home rule was accepted by the leading political parties in Denmark.
But back to your questions (I use the Danish terms.) 1) The present construction is known as Rigsfællesskabet (literally, the Community of the Realm) and is virtually synonomous with Det Danske Rige (The Danish Realm, thus avoiding the name "Denmark".) Det Danske Rige is ruled by Her Majesty Queen Margrethe II (her title Danmarks Dronning - literally Denmark's Queen is, however, considered to comprise all three territories / nations / countries depending on your point-of-view.) Internationally speaking, the word "Denmark" is usually used both regarding the territory of Denmark proper as well as the entire realm/kingdom, although several Greenlanders and Faroese resent this. It is, however, rather understandable given that the Realm comprises 5,4 million Danes, 48,000 Faroese, and 56,000 Greenlanders. An example of the relations of the three nations is the fact that Danish law allocates the Faroe Islands and Greenland two seats each in the Danish Parliament Folketinget. On the other hand, Denmark is not represented in neither the Faroese Lagting nor the Greenlandic Landsting (again, I use the Danish names).
When it comes to internal affairs, Greenland and the Faroe Islands are in effect independent nations, and Danish politicians accept this. What separates them from independent nations are two restrictions: 1) They both receive financial aid from Denmark and 2) They don't run an independent foreign policy. Recent developments indicate that the Faroe Islands and Greenland will be granted greater influence on matters regarding their own affairs, but according to the law, the final say ultimately lies in Copenhagen (in reality, Danish politicians will go to very great lengths to avoid overruling Greenland or the Faroe Islands.) If either the Faroe Islands or Greenland demand to conduct a completely independent foreign policy it will most likely mean the death of the Rigsfællesskab. Several Greenlandic and Faroese politicians have called for independence while expecting the territories to continue receiving substantial financial support from Denmark following independence (some suggesting a transition period of 25 years). This demand is refused by the vast majority of both Danes and Danish politicians. Greenlandic and Faroese politicians generally say that they wish to keep the Queen in case the two nations become independent, but many Danes consider this to be a contradiction in terms (independence = republic; the ultimate Icelandic solution.) It should also be noted that the Constitution of Denmark is not very keen on the King ruling other countries.
2) The independence granted to Iceland in 1918 was not an attempt to create a federation but more resembles the British experiment with "devolution" (in Denmark we'd probably say that the real issue was "trying keep the bits together"). There was never any talk of creating a new assembly like a senate with equal representation for the different nations, since it would mean that the three (or two) North Atlantic nations could outvote Denmark and make Danes pay through the nose. It would also be grossly unfair towards Denmark proper since Danes comprise the vast majority of the population of the Kingdom (pre-war figures including Iceland would be 94% Danes; 2005 figures excluding Iceland would be 98% Danes). Besides, before 1953 Denmark had a two-chamber parliament. The former upper house Landstinget (originally representing the Danish provinces) and the lower house Folketinget elected by proportional vote. This was considered to be a problematic construction and a third federal chamber would have made the situation even worse. -- Valentinian 00:04, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
Say how you define "a country" then we can answer you. ·Maunus·ƛ· 05:45, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
You say that you posted the criterias used on the 'list of sovereign states', and therefor the Faroe Islands could not be a country. You are actually wrong; (a) a permanent population: This is correct, the Faroe Islands has a population that is living semi-permanently there; (b) a defined territory: The Faroe Islands has it's own defined land and sea-mark; (c) government: The Faroese 'Løgting' (not law assembly as it is posted in the article, but 'laug assembly', which was normally used in some old system where the city had a 'laug', which was basically a city council, but the danish law that allows them gives them a lot more permissions than the old 'laug's'); and (d) capacity to enter into relations with the other states: The faroese Lagting is allowed to enter into negotiations with other countries around Denmark, but this is generally not practised that much. The Faroe Islands do however have a free-trade treaty with Iceland, and there have been talks between the faroese foreign minister and foreign ministers of small nations of Europe, one of which is a member of the European Union, the others are not (countries like Luxemburgh, Liechtenstein and the likes of those). In international committees and unions, Denmark does infact represent the Faroe Islands, but the Faroe Islands have a great wish of entering the European Union and other unions on their own, but they want some exceptions, like in the European Union, the Faroe Islands would want some freedoms when it comes to the fishery policies and a few others, but the European Union would not accept the Faroe Islands as it is redundant with already having Denmark representing the Faroe Islands, and the Faroe Islands not being a 100% independant nation, this does not however mean they are not a country, it merely means that they are not recognized as an independant country by some, but if you look at the list you provided yourself, there are 10 'other' "countries" mentioned, like South Ossetia and Kosovo, which are only recognized by some, and even Nagorno-Karabakh which has not been recognized by any state at all, but claims to be one. The Faroe Islands claim to be a country within the 'Rigsfællesskab' (Translated to "Community of Realms", not "community of the realm" which has been pointed out earlier), a term which suggests that it is individual states within a community where all hold equal power. This is however not true though, as the Faroe Islands and Greenland are infact forced to follow danish law as it is if Denmark decides that it wants to force it upon them, but the Faroe Islands and Greenland can also decide if they want to pass a law that invalidates a danish law, but this then again has to be accepted by the danish parliament, which it generally is. In theory, it works like a 2 house system, where one of the houses has superior powers over the other, but doesn't enforce it and the inferior house does not have power over the bigger nation. This is a talk page and information shown could be subjective instead of neutral and not always 100% accurate, and I might be biased in my notes, but this is how I call it from living on the Faroe Islands. It has to be said though, that I am in fact highly interested in politics and am a republican, I do not care for not being recognized as a country, but I can accept that we are not independant. The Faroe Islands is not a colony of Denmark, it was a settlement of various vikings that was first annexed by Norway and later handed over to Denmark when the Norway-Denmark union ended in favor of the Kalmar union between Denmark and Sweden where Norway came under Swedish rule. I would view the settlement, which had it's own Thing (Parliament), and were independant of other nations, therefor being their own nation, and as such, now being a country that has been annexed into a kingdom, and works as a country inside a kingdom.
Also, on another note, it was mentioned that the choice of Iceland to continue with the danish monarch after becoming independant was not keenly viewed in the danish constitution. This is not true. The danish constitution explicitly says that if another nation wishes to elect they king (or in the current situation, queen) of Denmark as their monarch, this can be done, but it does have to be passed in a peoples vote among the danish people aswell. Oragix ( talk) 00:47, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Because some people love to use the imperialistic and incorrect Faroe Islands instead of the more accurate Faroe or Faroes, two geographical articles have been created for the same country.
I think that it would be apropriate to decide which one is to be used. I prefer Faroe og Faroes, no matter which. This because islands means excatly the same as oe in Faroe.
Also I think that a should be use instead of ae i.e. Faroe and not Faeroe, because it is the one used by faroese. Also this is english. The correct way to spell it would be Færøe, but no one seems to be doing that. And no one would know how to pronounce it anyway.
It seems to me that this issue must be resolved. -- JJ-Hammer 19:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Jogvanj, the full and official name (in English) is the Faroe Islands. In Faroese the name is Føroyar, where oyar is the part that means islands. I think that it is legitimate to refer to the islands officially as the Faroe Islands, which is their official name in English. Colloquially they are called the Faroes. This isn't uncommon, for example in English the name for Deutschland is Germany. Or the Netherlands (Nederland in Dutch) is often called Holland. Quirks of history, yes, but I think that we ought to use the official English name here in the English Wikipedia.
A good old discussion is about the meaning of Faroes. Is it really "sheep islands"? I have my doubts, and don't feel me alone with that. There are linguists saying, it could also mean "far (away) islands". Of course, the Old Norse word fær means "(woolen) lifestock" and the Faroes are full of sheep since the very first days, but as mentioned in the section above, the Hereford map mentioned them as farei an this is celtic for "far away islands". This fits to the islands also very well, cause the are far away, so far away, that they are the last place in Europe, which was detected before finally Iceland. I think, both meanings should be explained and not always and only the popular one, each other copies from each other popular description. ;-) Arne List 14:54, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
I also have doubts about the (Føroyar, meaning "Sheep Islands") ethimology. It's more likely that the name comes from Faerie, which is linked with "far away", of course. Erdelyiek 13:47, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
AFAIK there is also a possibility that the name Faroe Island could come from the Celtic Feharand which means something along 'land mass'. There are other names on the islands, which also have a distinct celtic flavour, i.e. Dímun (twins).
The trouble with Føroyar meaning Sheep Islands is, that in old norse the word for sheep is Sauðr. However the danish word for sheep (Får) has a resemblance to Før (first part of the name). Bearing in mind, that the island have been a part of Denmark for quiet a time, it could be argued, that the danish word for sheep (får), has had a disproportionated effect on the entymology. Bear in mind, that for the first 300 years, the Faroe Island had absolute nothing to do with Denmark, but where a part of Norway, where the word for sheep is Sauðr.
All this dosn't take into account, that the Faroe Islanders have their own language, which perhaps by then (8-900 CE) hadn't evolved into a distinct language. However, it is equally wrong to take a danish word (får) as a good reason for the original meaning of the name, since danish wasn't a part of the island for the first 3-400 years.
Ortind — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ortind ( talk • contribs) 22:23, 1 February 2007
Føroyar | |
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Motto: ? | |
Anthem:
Tú alfagra land mítt (My land, oh most beauteous) | |
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Capital and largest city |
Tórshavn 62°00′N 06°47′W / 62.000°N 6.783°W |
Official languages | Faroese |
Government | Democratic |
Margrethe II Jóannes Eidesgaard | |
Independence | |
• ? | None1 |
Area | |
• Total | 1,399 km2 (540 sq mi) ( 189th) |
• Water (%) | 0.5 |
Population | |
• 2004 estimate | 48,228 ( 211th) |
• ? census | ? |
• Density | 33.1/km2 (85.7/sq mi) ( 138th) |
GDP ( PPP) | 1996 estimate |
• Total | $700 million ( ?) |
• Per capita | $16,000 ( ?) |
Currency | Faroese króna2 ( DKK) |
Time zone | UTC+0 ( WET) |
• Summer (
DST) | UTC+1 ( EST) |
Calling code | 298 |
ISO 3166 code | FO |
Internet TLD | .fo |
I was thinking about inserting a Infobox_Country for the Faroe islands, but before it can be done there are a couple of question marks that need to be filled out first. Feel free to edit the infobox, when all the question marks have been replaced it can replace the table on Faroe Islands. ℚuackor 19:52, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
Could there be an article created on Faroese Postal History? I am a keen stamp collector of the Faroe Islands, and could probably put together an article off the top of my head and with some help from the Postverk Føroya magazine.
I would have no idea where to put it though, so if people approve, where would it go? Sean Wood 16:16, 13 November 2005
I have updated the main article to include more information on the relationship between the Faroe Islands and Denmark, particularly the governing of Faroe Islands prior to 1948, including bits on the referendum on Sep. 14 1946. The previous version did not include much information on this. I have tried my best to keep this NPOV. -- Mecil 06:48, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
In light of this new advancement: http://www.jp.dk/english_news/artikel:aid=3705010/ I'm not sure what islands and such they are talking about in this section that are currently connected so I can't update this section to mention the new tunnel. Daniel 13:49, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
What's its name in English? Or both are correct? — Insta ntnood 19:18, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
Because the Faroe Islands are part of Denmark, I wonder, how was Faroe Islands affected by the Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy? Were there any specific threats from muslim extremists against, for instance, the Faroese fishing industry? Is faroese cod or wool boycotted by Saudi Arabia for example? Cyrruss 14:45, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
Could somebody please provide some historical information about the Faroese being of Celtic descent? Enzedbrit 05:36, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
The Dna analysis suggests that (male ) Vikings took slaves or wives from Scotland or Ireland probably by force in most cases. is that a suitable addition to the article? 145.253.108.22 14:31, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Too speculative IMO. Given the levels of depopulation and probable relative contact with communities in Scotland there would have to be more evidence citations etc —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.240.122.171 ( talk) 17:40, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not a link repository or travelguide, so per WP:EL I think it makes sense to first discuss links someone wishes to add to this article. User:212.55.60.242 recently added these:
Do they make sense on the top level Faroes article, if they are suitable then surely it is on a sub-article... The article for the institution in question or the likes of Culture of the Faroe Islands, Geography of the Faroe Islands, etc / wangi 11:56, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
How about something on the geologic origin of the Faroes? They're in a strange position in the middle of the ocean, with no volcanoes (that anyone's mentioned). KarlM 06:27, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Is the edits by 86.141.193.186 vandalism or is it fact? The only other edit that was made by that IP address was obvious vandalism. Dark jedi requiem 23:34, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn´t there be a section or an article conserning education in the Faroe Islands ? -- Nua2 09:46, 6 September 2006 (UTC) indeed there should
Very little historical evidence indicates that Irish monks have ever settled in the Faroe Islands. In fact, the only source to the claim was written by Dicuil, and he only mentions some islands to the north. In fact, there is new historical research (by Arne Thorsteinsson) which proves that he never wrote about the Faroes, but instead at some point in time (I can’t remember when at the moment) someone made an error while making a transcript of Dicuil´s writings.-- Nua2 10:19, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Further to this,"heremitae ex nostra Scotia" as quoted in the article to mean Monks of Ireland, that would read," Heremitae ex nostra Hibernia" the former is of Scotland( Scotia )....not Ireland!! I picked up on it because I am from Nova Scotia, the only latin name place in the world> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.230.225.199 ( talk) 01:24, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
I've read here pretty much about Faroe Islands, and I liked them very much, they sort of look "magical" as a bunch of pictures showed places surrounded by fogs.
However, isnt it a bit boring to live there? Or do you enjoy the quieter life? I'd certainly like to visit the islands one day but I can't imagine a person like me living there.
Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.78.13.243 ( talk • contribs) 11:48, 15 September 2006
The Faroe Islands are almost exactly like everywhere else. When a German traveller who visited the Faroe Islands in 1913 noticed some modern changes on the islands he wrote: "Und so wird diser typhische Menchenschlag dem Anthropologen ebenso uinteressand werden wie wir ubrigen Europaer".
Down South, in Denmark, there are plenty of jokes indicating that the Faroe Islands are an extremely boring place to live in, however, I always fail to see the point. I hope that answers your question. Nua2 21:54, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Just did a couple of minor edits, most of the English here is top-class but there are a few bits that could be rephrased, have done my best. Ghostreveries 17:14, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
During the world war we were only allowed to speak danish in school and church. everywhere else, any time, we have always spoken Faroese, it is our primary and only language. —Preceding
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I'm also going to do some minor edits, concerned primarily with minor grammatical errors and to make the text flow more smoothly and naturally to a native English speaker. Feel free to correct and/or edit anything I change, I'm just trying to help. -- Saukkomies talk 16:27, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
Can someone change the spelling of "defence" in the first paragraph to "defense?"
-- What on earth for? Have you read the guidelines on US/UK spelling. This is an article about a European country, and whoever started it used UK spellings. It should not be changed without good reason. Rat 01:44, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
The following sentence in the demographics section In the 20th Century Faroese became the host language; Danish only has the character of a traffic language. makes no sense in English. Can anyone improve it or explain it here?-- JBellis 22:29, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Faroese has always been the primary language spoken in homes.-- Nua2 16:15, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
I dont know Faroese, but in Danish: Fær-ø-er-ne, ne=The Fær=Faroe ø=island er=s -- Arigato1 11:33, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
The title uses the English name therefore it follows the same convention as many place names or countries which take the definite artcile but it isn't used in the title e.g. the US, the UK, the USSR, the Seychelles etc.
The is some debate on the Netherlands talk page but see Wikipedia:Naming conventions#Avoid the definite article ("the") and the indefinite article ("a"/"an") at the beginning of the page name for clarification . -- JBellis 11:51, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
answering your question. Føroyar is how we say it in Faroese, means no "The" before "Faroe Islands". —Preceding
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I read in the article: (they have a small organized native military in Mjørkadalur, including a small police force and coast guard). This cannot be true, for the Faroese have NO military. The Mjørkadalur base is Danish on behalf the NATO. The Faroese were never asked about that. The police is Danish too (though locals serving in it, ofcourse), and the coast guard is both Danish (navy) and Faroese (fishery control). Anyone out there, who would correct me? -- Arne List 23:16, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
I can not seem to finde anything about the faroese government (landstýrið). Is this just because the article has'nt been created yet, or is there something i have missed. ℚuackor 10:04, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Can anyone clarify why these references are under references ? ℚuackor 15:46, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Some years ago a Faroese reader, who seemed very pro-Norwegian, got a letter printed in the Norwegian history magazine Levende Historie. He wrote that during the war the Norwegian government ( Trygve Lie IIRC) had approached the British government about transferring the Faroes to Norwegian sovereignty as compensation for the lack of a Danish war effort. Does anyone know if this actually happened, or if it's just an urban legend? -- Nidator 23:25, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Any movement or sentiment for the idea that the faroes should become a United Kingdom territory? They are only 149 miles from the UK, there nearest neighbor and i'm sure they share much in common with them. It makes sense that the faroes become a UK territory! I also want to know are they part of the British Isles or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.135.122.44 ( talk • contribs) 01:58, 18 July 2007
In the infobox, the HDI is mentioned, and the Faroes ranked on place 15. But this refers to Denmark and not the Faroes! -- Arne List 13:41, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
What are the most popular and/or national sports of the Faeroe Islands?
The national sport must be soccer (football). There are many popular sports including but not limited to football, rowing, handball, badminton and swimming. SverriMO 05:55, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
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My feeling is that it's not appropriate to have the msg:Europe box on here, when the Faroes aren't listed in that box. What does anyone else think?-- ALargeElk 13:50, 21 May 2004 (UTC)
They are listed in that box in my browser. I have removed msg:amt because the faroe islands is not a countie of denmark.-- Quackor 10:12, 28 May 2004 (UTC+1)
Are the Faroe Islands a Danish dependency? If the islands are a part of the Kingdom of Denmark, how can they be regarded as a dependendy which have to be bodies formally not a part of the motherland? Jakro64 16:33, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)
The Faroe Islands are a part of the Kingdom of Denmark. They aren't a dependency, but rather are a self-governing overseas administrative division of Denmark (since 1948). Before this I believe that they were indeed a dependency/colony? The official governing constitution is the Danish constitution of 5 June 1953.
I agree there are similarities, but the Danish construction is very different from a federal state. Iceland was granted independence (in union with Denmark) in 1918 following years and years of Danish neglect of the island and increasing demands for home rule or outright independence (the results somewhat resembled the Irish Free State.) The arrangement was never a success, and Iceland didn't have an independent foreign policy. It was conducted by the Danish Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Copenhagen, and was, in reality, little more than promoting the interests of Icelandic fish exports and replacing the line "the King of Denmark" with "the King of Denmark and Iceland".
Home rule for the Faroe Islands was introduced in 1948 as a response to increased calls for independence there as well (though several Danish politicians opposed this, fearing the dissolution of the nation. Ultimately, they decided to consider home rule to be a lesser evil than outright Faroese independence.) Besides, the separation from Denmark proper during World War II had clearly proven that the Faroese people were capable of managing more of its own affairs than had previously been believed in Denmark. When similar wishes were expressed by Greenland in the 1970s, the issue had become less controversial and home rule was accepted by the leading political parties in Denmark.
But back to your questions (I use the Danish terms.) 1) The present construction is known as Rigsfællesskabet (literally, the Community of the Realm) and is virtually synonomous with Det Danske Rige (The Danish Realm, thus avoiding the name "Denmark".) Det Danske Rige is ruled by Her Majesty Queen Margrethe II (her title Danmarks Dronning - literally Denmark's Queen is, however, considered to comprise all three territories / nations / countries depending on your point-of-view.) Internationally speaking, the word "Denmark" is usually used both regarding the territory of Denmark proper as well as the entire realm/kingdom, although several Greenlanders and Faroese resent this. It is, however, rather understandable given that the Realm comprises 5,4 million Danes, 48,000 Faroese, and 56,000 Greenlanders. An example of the relations of the three nations is the fact that Danish law allocates the Faroe Islands and Greenland two seats each in the Danish Parliament Folketinget. On the other hand, Denmark is not represented in neither the Faroese Lagting nor the Greenlandic Landsting (again, I use the Danish names).
When it comes to internal affairs, Greenland and the Faroe Islands are in effect independent nations, and Danish politicians accept this. What separates them from independent nations are two restrictions: 1) They both receive financial aid from Denmark and 2) They don't run an independent foreign policy. Recent developments indicate that the Faroe Islands and Greenland will be granted greater influence on matters regarding their own affairs, but according to the law, the final say ultimately lies in Copenhagen (in reality, Danish politicians will go to very great lengths to avoid overruling Greenland or the Faroe Islands.) If either the Faroe Islands or Greenland demand to conduct a completely independent foreign policy it will most likely mean the death of the Rigsfællesskab. Several Greenlandic and Faroese politicians have called for independence while expecting the territories to continue receiving substantial financial support from Denmark following independence (some suggesting a transition period of 25 years). This demand is refused by the vast majority of both Danes and Danish politicians. Greenlandic and Faroese politicians generally say that they wish to keep the Queen in case the two nations become independent, but many Danes consider this to be a contradiction in terms (independence = republic; the ultimate Icelandic solution.) It should also be noted that the Constitution of Denmark is not very keen on the King ruling other countries.
2) The independence granted to Iceland in 1918 was not an attempt to create a federation but more resembles the British experiment with "devolution" (in Denmark we'd probably say that the real issue was "trying keep the bits together"). There was never any talk of creating a new assembly like a senate with equal representation for the different nations, since it would mean that the three (or two) North Atlantic nations could outvote Denmark and make Danes pay through the nose. It would also be grossly unfair towards Denmark proper since Danes comprise the vast majority of the population of the Kingdom (pre-war figures including Iceland would be 94% Danes; 2005 figures excluding Iceland would be 98% Danes). Besides, before 1953 Denmark had a two-chamber parliament. The former upper house Landstinget (originally representing the Danish provinces) and the lower house Folketinget elected by proportional vote. This was considered to be a problematic construction and a third federal chamber would have made the situation even worse. -- Valentinian 00:04, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
Say how you define "a country" then we can answer you. ·Maunus·ƛ· 05:45, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
You say that you posted the criterias used on the 'list of sovereign states', and therefor the Faroe Islands could not be a country. You are actually wrong; (a) a permanent population: This is correct, the Faroe Islands has a population that is living semi-permanently there; (b) a defined territory: The Faroe Islands has it's own defined land and sea-mark; (c) government: The Faroese 'Løgting' (not law assembly as it is posted in the article, but 'laug assembly', which was normally used in some old system where the city had a 'laug', which was basically a city council, but the danish law that allows them gives them a lot more permissions than the old 'laug's'); and (d) capacity to enter into relations with the other states: The faroese Lagting is allowed to enter into negotiations with other countries around Denmark, but this is generally not practised that much. The Faroe Islands do however have a free-trade treaty with Iceland, and there have been talks between the faroese foreign minister and foreign ministers of small nations of Europe, one of which is a member of the European Union, the others are not (countries like Luxemburgh, Liechtenstein and the likes of those). In international committees and unions, Denmark does infact represent the Faroe Islands, but the Faroe Islands have a great wish of entering the European Union and other unions on their own, but they want some exceptions, like in the European Union, the Faroe Islands would want some freedoms when it comes to the fishery policies and a few others, but the European Union would not accept the Faroe Islands as it is redundant with already having Denmark representing the Faroe Islands, and the Faroe Islands not being a 100% independant nation, this does not however mean they are not a country, it merely means that they are not recognized as an independant country by some, but if you look at the list you provided yourself, there are 10 'other' "countries" mentioned, like South Ossetia and Kosovo, which are only recognized by some, and even Nagorno-Karabakh which has not been recognized by any state at all, but claims to be one. The Faroe Islands claim to be a country within the 'Rigsfællesskab' (Translated to "Community of Realms", not "community of the realm" which has been pointed out earlier), a term which suggests that it is individual states within a community where all hold equal power. This is however not true though, as the Faroe Islands and Greenland are infact forced to follow danish law as it is if Denmark decides that it wants to force it upon them, but the Faroe Islands and Greenland can also decide if they want to pass a law that invalidates a danish law, but this then again has to be accepted by the danish parliament, which it generally is. In theory, it works like a 2 house system, where one of the houses has superior powers over the other, but doesn't enforce it and the inferior house does not have power over the bigger nation. This is a talk page and information shown could be subjective instead of neutral and not always 100% accurate, and I might be biased in my notes, but this is how I call it from living on the Faroe Islands. It has to be said though, that I am in fact highly interested in politics and am a republican, I do not care for not being recognized as a country, but I can accept that we are not independant. The Faroe Islands is not a colony of Denmark, it was a settlement of various vikings that was first annexed by Norway and later handed over to Denmark when the Norway-Denmark union ended in favor of the Kalmar union between Denmark and Sweden where Norway came under Swedish rule. I would view the settlement, which had it's own Thing (Parliament), and were independant of other nations, therefor being their own nation, and as such, now being a country that has been annexed into a kingdom, and works as a country inside a kingdom.
Also, on another note, it was mentioned that the choice of Iceland to continue with the danish monarch after becoming independant was not keenly viewed in the danish constitution. This is not true. The danish constitution explicitly says that if another nation wishes to elect they king (or in the current situation, queen) of Denmark as their monarch, this can be done, but it does have to be passed in a peoples vote among the danish people aswell. Oragix ( talk) 00:47, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Because some people love to use the imperialistic and incorrect Faroe Islands instead of the more accurate Faroe or Faroes, two geographical articles have been created for the same country.
I think that it would be apropriate to decide which one is to be used. I prefer Faroe og Faroes, no matter which. This because islands means excatly the same as oe in Faroe.
Also I think that a should be use instead of ae i.e. Faroe and not Faeroe, because it is the one used by faroese. Also this is english. The correct way to spell it would be Færøe, but no one seems to be doing that. And no one would know how to pronounce it anyway.
It seems to me that this issue must be resolved. -- JJ-Hammer 19:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Jogvanj, the full and official name (in English) is the Faroe Islands. In Faroese the name is Føroyar, where oyar is the part that means islands. I think that it is legitimate to refer to the islands officially as the Faroe Islands, which is their official name in English. Colloquially they are called the Faroes. This isn't uncommon, for example in English the name for Deutschland is Germany. Or the Netherlands (Nederland in Dutch) is often called Holland. Quirks of history, yes, but I think that we ought to use the official English name here in the English Wikipedia.
A good old discussion is about the meaning of Faroes. Is it really "sheep islands"? I have my doubts, and don't feel me alone with that. There are linguists saying, it could also mean "far (away) islands". Of course, the Old Norse word fær means "(woolen) lifestock" and the Faroes are full of sheep since the very first days, but as mentioned in the section above, the Hereford map mentioned them as farei an this is celtic for "far away islands". This fits to the islands also very well, cause the are far away, so far away, that they are the last place in Europe, which was detected before finally Iceland. I think, both meanings should be explained and not always and only the popular one, each other copies from each other popular description. ;-) Arne List 14:54, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
I also have doubts about the (Føroyar, meaning "Sheep Islands") ethimology. It's more likely that the name comes from Faerie, which is linked with "far away", of course. Erdelyiek 13:47, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
AFAIK there is also a possibility that the name Faroe Island could come from the Celtic Feharand which means something along 'land mass'. There are other names on the islands, which also have a distinct celtic flavour, i.e. Dímun (twins).
The trouble with Føroyar meaning Sheep Islands is, that in old norse the word for sheep is Sauðr. However the danish word for sheep (Får) has a resemblance to Før (first part of the name). Bearing in mind, that the island have been a part of Denmark for quiet a time, it could be argued, that the danish word for sheep (får), has had a disproportionated effect on the entymology. Bear in mind, that for the first 300 years, the Faroe Island had absolute nothing to do with Denmark, but where a part of Norway, where the word for sheep is Sauðr.
All this dosn't take into account, that the Faroe Islanders have their own language, which perhaps by then (8-900 CE) hadn't evolved into a distinct language. However, it is equally wrong to take a danish word (får) as a good reason for the original meaning of the name, since danish wasn't a part of the island for the first 3-400 years.
Ortind — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ortind ( talk • contribs) 22:23, 1 February 2007
Føroyar | |
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Motto: ? | |
Anthem:
Tú alfagra land mítt (My land, oh most beauteous) | |
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Capital and largest city |
Tórshavn 62°00′N 06°47′W / 62.000°N 6.783°W |
Official languages | Faroese |
Government | Democratic |
Margrethe II Jóannes Eidesgaard | |
Independence | |
• ? | None1 |
Area | |
• Total | 1,399 km2 (540 sq mi) ( 189th) |
• Water (%) | 0.5 |
Population | |
• 2004 estimate | 48,228 ( 211th) |
• ? census | ? |
• Density | 33.1/km2 (85.7/sq mi) ( 138th) |
GDP ( PPP) | 1996 estimate |
• Total | $700 million ( ?) |
• Per capita | $16,000 ( ?) |
Currency | Faroese króna2 ( DKK) |
Time zone | UTC+0 ( WET) |
• Summer (
DST) | UTC+1 ( EST) |
Calling code | 298 |
ISO 3166 code | FO |
Internet TLD | .fo |
I was thinking about inserting a Infobox_Country for the Faroe islands, but before it can be done there are a couple of question marks that need to be filled out first. Feel free to edit the infobox, when all the question marks have been replaced it can replace the table on Faroe Islands. ℚuackor 19:52, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
Could there be an article created on Faroese Postal History? I am a keen stamp collector of the Faroe Islands, and could probably put together an article off the top of my head and with some help from the Postverk Føroya magazine.
I would have no idea where to put it though, so if people approve, where would it go? Sean Wood 16:16, 13 November 2005
I have updated the main article to include more information on the relationship between the Faroe Islands and Denmark, particularly the governing of Faroe Islands prior to 1948, including bits on the referendum on Sep. 14 1946. The previous version did not include much information on this. I have tried my best to keep this NPOV. -- Mecil 06:48, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
In light of this new advancement: http://www.jp.dk/english_news/artikel:aid=3705010/ I'm not sure what islands and such they are talking about in this section that are currently connected so I can't update this section to mention the new tunnel. Daniel 13:49, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
What's its name in English? Or both are correct? — Insta ntnood 19:18, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
Because the Faroe Islands are part of Denmark, I wonder, how was Faroe Islands affected by the Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy? Were there any specific threats from muslim extremists against, for instance, the Faroese fishing industry? Is faroese cod or wool boycotted by Saudi Arabia for example? Cyrruss 14:45, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
Could somebody please provide some historical information about the Faroese being of Celtic descent? Enzedbrit 05:36, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
The Dna analysis suggests that (male ) Vikings took slaves or wives from Scotland or Ireland probably by force in most cases. is that a suitable addition to the article? 145.253.108.22 14:31, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Too speculative IMO. Given the levels of depopulation and probable relative contact with communities in Scotland there would have to be more evidence citations etc —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.240.122.171 ( talk) 17:40, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not a link repository or travelguide, so per WP:EL I think it makes sense to first discuss links someone wishes to add to this article. User:212.55.60.242 recently added these:
Do they make sense on the top level Faroes article, if they are suitable then surely it is on a sub-article... The article for the institution in question or the likes of Culture of the Faroe Islands, Geography of the Faroe Islands, etc / wangi 11:56, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
How about something on the geologic origin of the Faroes? They're in a strange position in the middle of the ocean, with no volcanoes (that anyone's mentioned). KarlM 06:27, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Is the edits by 86.141.193.186 vandalism or is it fact? The only other edit that was made by that IP address was obvious vandalism. Dark jedi requiem 23:34, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn´t there be a section or an article conserning education in the Faroe Islands ? -- Nua2 09:46, 6 September 2006 (UTC) indeed there should
Very little historical evidence indicates that Irish monks have ever settled in the Faroe Islands. In fact, the only source to the claim was written by Dicuil, and he only mentions some islands to the north. In fact, there is new historical research (by Arne Thorsteinsson) which proves that he never wrote about the Faroes, but instead at some point in time (I can’t remember when at the moment) someone made an error while making a transcript of Dicuil´s writings.-- Nua2 10:19, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Further to this,"heremitae ex nostra Scotia" as quoted in the article to mean Monks of Ireland, that would read," Heremitae ex nostra Hibernia" the former is of Scotland( Scotia )....not Ireland!! I picked up on it because I am from Nova Scotia, the only latin name place in the world> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.230.225.199 ( talk) 01:24, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
I've read here pretty much about Faroe Islands, and I liked them very much, they sort of look "magical" as a bunch of pictures showed places surrounded by fogs.
However, isnt it a bit boring to live there? Or do you enjoy the quieter life? I'd certainly like to visit the islands one day but I can't imagine a person like me living there.
Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.78.13.243 ( talk • contribs) 11:48, 15 September 2006
The Faroe Islands are almost exactly like everywhere else. When a German traveller who visited the Faroe Islands in 1913 noticed some modern changes on the islands he wrote: "Und so wird diser typhische Menchenschlag dem Anthropologen ebenso uinteressand werden wie wir ubrigen Europaer".
Down South, in Denmark, there are plenty of jokes indicating that the Faroe Islands are an extremely boring place to live in, however, I always fail to see the point. I hope that answers your question. Nua2 21:54, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Just did a couple of minor edits, most of the English here is top-class but there are a few bits that could be rephrased, have done my best. Ghostreveries 17:14, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
During the world war we were only allowed to speak danish in school and church. everywhere else, any time, we have always spoken Faroese, it is our primary and only language. —Preceding
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I'm also going to do some minor edits, concerned primarily with minor grammatical errors and to make the text flow more smoothly and naturally to a native English speaker. Feel free to correct and/or edit anything I change, I'm just trying to help. -- Saukkomies talk 16:27, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
Can someone change the spelling of "defence" in the first paragraph to "defense?"
-- What on earth for? Have you read the guidelines on US/UK spelling. This is an article about a European country, and whoever started it used UK spellings. It should not be changed without good reason. Rat 01:44, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
The following sentence in the demographics section In the 20th Century Faroese became the host language; Danish only has the character of a traffic language. makes no sense in English. Can anyone improve it or explain it here?-- JBellis 22:29, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Faroese has always been the primary language spoken in homes.-- Nua2 16:15, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
I dont know Faroese, but in Danish: Fær-ø-er-ne, ne=The Fær=Faroe ø=island er=s -- Arigato1 11:33, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
The title uses the English name therefore it follows the same convention as many place names or countries which take the definite artcile but it isn't used in the title e.g. the US, the UK, the USSR, the Seychelles etc.
The is some debate on the Netherlands talk page but see Wikipedia:Naming conventions#Avoid the definite article ("the") and the indefinite article ("a"/"an") at the beginning of the page name for clarification . -- JBellis 11:51, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
answering your question. Føroyar is how we say it in Faroese, means no "The" before "Faroe Islands". —Preceding
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I read in the article: (they have a small organized native military in Mjørkadalur, including a small police force and coast guard). This cannot be true, for the Faroese have NO military. The Mjørkadalur base is Danish on behalf the NATO. The Faroese were never asked about that. The police is Danish too (though locals serving in it, ofcourse), and the coast guard is both Danish (navy) and Faroese (fishery control). Anyone out there, who would correct me? -- Arne List 23:16, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
I can not seem to finde anything about the faroese government (landstýrið). Is this just because the article has'nt been created yet, or is there something i have missed. ℚuackor 10:04, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Can anyone clarify why these references are under references ? ℚuackor 15:46, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Some years ago a Faroese reader, who seemed very pro-Norwegian, got a letter printed in the Norwegian history magazine Levende Historie. He wrote that during the war the Norwegian government ( Trygve Lie IIRC) had approached the British government about transferring the Faroes to Norwegian sovereignty as compensation for the lack of a Danish war effort. Does anyone know if this actually happened, or if it's just an urban legend? -- Nidator 23:25, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Any movement or sentiment for the idea that the faroes should become a United Kingdom territory? They are only 149 miles from the UK, there nearest neighbor and i'm sure they share much in common with them. It makes sense that the faroes become a UK territory! I also want to know are they part of the British Isles or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.135.122.44 ( talk • contribs) 01:58, 18 July 2007
In the infobox, the HDI is mentioned, and the Faroes ranked on place 15. But this refers to Denmark and not the Faroes! -- Arne List 13:41, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
What are the most popular and/or national sports of the Faeroe Islands?
The national sport must be soccer (football). There are many popular sports including but not limited to football, rowing, handball, badminton and swimming. SverriMO 05:55, 10 October 2007 (UTC)