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who ruled France when the first diplomatic relations with Europe were established during the Abbasyid Dynasty since especially Caliph Haroon Ar Rashid, so all the Europeans since then were known as 'Franks' in the Islamic world with the equivalent transliteration in the languages used in the Islamic world. Ilaila ( talk) 08:42, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Before 1190 and the King Philippe Auguste (Rex Franciæ or "roi de France" or King of France), The name of France is Kingdome of Frank (Franc in French) and the king is Rex Francorum (roi des Francs or King of the Franks). The French pepole call themself a this time Frank (Franc in French). Many Norman kinght call themself as Franks kinghts. The Kingdome of Frank give the stop the invaion of Arab in Europe in 732. During the Frist crusade 1095, many crusader are Frank (French) kinght (that's includ Normand, Flemish, & provençal) and Latines Kingdomes (inclue Jerusalem Kingdome of levant were lead by Franks kinghts). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.57.227.169 ( talk) 01:08, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
I removed a bunch of content which is frankly (forgive the pun) unrelated to the term. Most of it consists of info on other words which formed through similar means. As it has some interesting information that might be useful in other articles, it appears below. Of course, this article is now very small, and needs some expansion similar to what appears in Farang. 69.95.239.245 ( talk) 22:41, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Of trivial interest is the fact that in French Polynesia the word for a white man is 'farani' (from 'francais'), whereas the Indonesians used to refer to their colonisers (the Dutch/Hollanders) as 'orang blanda.' Orang is 'man' (hence ' orang utan' - 'man of the forest', and Blanda is the phonic equivalent in Indonesian of 'Hollander').
In the far north and north-east of Australia the Aboriginal peoples also referred to white people as 'Bilanda.' Possibly they got this term from Indonesian fishermen who have fished in Australian waters for centuries.
In the Malay languages, especially Jakarta Betawi, people of middle-eastern or European descent are often referred to as Orang Bule, which also has a derogatory connotation like the words Gora and Firangi in South Asia.
Similarly, the Zulu word for the Boer colonisers is ama-Bulu ('ama' indicating a plural). Which only goes to show that people often adopt into their language a term for all foreigners related to the name of the tribe of a prominent invader or coloniser of their country.
In colonial Sri Lanka, ' Parangi' was used to refer to both Portuguese people and to a form of syphilis called Yaws that was introduced by the Portuguese.
A tourist spot in Penang Island of Malaysia is known as Batu Feringgi. Due to the arrival of Portuguese armada fleet during the classical ages (Renaissance Era), it is believed they are the ones whom contributed to the formation of this name.
The Ferengi are also an alien race in Star Trek.
although it is caused by a related organism, yaws (frambesia) is not a 'type of syphilis'. it is spread by other than sexual contact, including an insect vector. long term, it has no effect on the cardiovascular or nervous systems, as does syphilis. moreover, if the portuguese introduced it into sri lanka, it was after they picked it up in africa. Toyokuni3 ( talk) 23:21, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Or just to Europeans, or possibly "whites", in general? Thanks. Maikel ( talk) 19:43, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- Only european whites. The white people of india that you talk about have a whitish creamy complexion with black hair. The europeans however appear to have a colourless skin. Their eyes and hair vary in many colours. Hence the indian term, "firangi". It is only used among indians. You won't find it being used on indian TV or any movies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.204.174.13 ( talk) 07:05, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
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who ruled France when the first diplomatic relations with Europe were established during the Abbasyid Dynasty since especially Caliph Haroon Ar Rashid, so all the Europeans since then were known as 'Franks' in the Islamic world with the equivalent transliteration in the languages used in the Islamic world. Ilaila ( talk) 08:42, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Before 1190 and the King Philippe Auguste (Rex Franciæ or "roi de France" or King of France), The name of France is Kingdome of Frank (Franc in French) and the king is Rex Francorum (roi des Francs or King of the Franks). The French pepole call themself a this time Frank (Franc in French). Many Norman kinght call themself as Franks kinghts. The Kingdome of Frank give the stop the invaion of Arab in Europe in 732. During the Frist crusade 1095, many crusader are Frank (French) kinght (that's includ Normand, Flemish, & provençal) and Latines Kingdomes (inclue Jerusalem Kingdome of levant were lead by Franks kinghts). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.57.227.169 ( talk) 01:08, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
I removed a bunch of content which is frankly (forgive the pun) unrelated to the term. Most of it consists of info on other words which formed through similar means. As it has some interesting information that might be useful in other articles, it appears below. Of course, this article is now very small, and needs some expansion similar to what appears in Farang. 69.95.239.245 ( talk) 22:41, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Of trivial interest is the fact that in French Polynesia the word for a white man is 'farani' (from 'francais'), whereas the Indonesians used to refer to their colonisers (the Dutch/Hollanders) as 'orang blanda.' Orang is 'man' (hence ' orang utan' - 'man of the forest', and Blanda is the phonic equivalent in Indonesian of 'Hollander').
In the far north and north-east of Australia the Aboriginal peoples also referred to white people as 'Bilanda.' Possibly they got this term from Indonesian fishermen who have fished in Australian waters for centuries.
In the Malay languages, especially Jakarta Betawi, people of middle-eastern or European descent are often referred to as Orang Bule, which also has a derogatory connotation like the words Gora and Firangi in South Asia.
Similarly, the Zulu word for the Boer colonisers is ama-Bulu ('ama' indicating a plural). Which only goes to show that people often adopt into their language a term for all foreigners related to the name of the tribe of a prominent invader or coloniser of their country.
In colonial Sri Lanka, ' Parangi' was used to refer to both Portuguese people and to a form of syphilis called Yaws that was introduced by the Portuguese.
A tourist spot in Penang Island of Malaysia is known as Batu Feringgi. Due to the arrival of Portuguese armada fleet during the classical ages (Renaissance Era), it is believed they are the ones whom contributed to the formation of this name.
The Ferengi are also an alien race in Star Trek.
although it is caused by a related organism, yaws (frambesia) is not a 'type of syphilis'. it is spread by other than sexual contact, including an insect vector. long term, it has no effect on the cardiovascular or nervous systems, as does syphilis. moreover, if the portuguese introduced it into sri lanka, it was after they picked it up in africa. Toyokuni3 ( talk) 23:21, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Or just to Europeans, or possibly "whites", in general? Thanks. Maikel ( talk) 19:43, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- Only european whites. The white people of india that you talk about have a whitish creamy complexion with black hair. The europeans however appear to have a colourless skin. Their eyes and hair vary in many colours. Hence the indian term, "firangi". It is only used among indians. You won't find it being used on indian TV or any movies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.204.174.13 ( talk) 07:05, 10 July 2010 (UTC)