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I added the POV tag to the article because I think the article lacks details about things Fang is apparently known for (criticising alleged fraud in academia, etc.) and focuses on some particular aspects that have attracted controversy. wctaiwan ( talk) 15:26, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
As for how Fang staged a little coup d'état to wrestle the control of the publication to his own hands in 1997, and removing the other co-founders, please refer to here, in which all sources come from Fang's own account of the incident. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 林木森森 ( talk • contribs) 20:26, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
Wikis are not suitable sources for any page on wikipedia, and particularly not BLP. I would not say the question is settled, I will try to confirm the information later today.
It is enough to note that he has criticized Christianity, his major source of fame is for science, not religious polemics. He may have been famous among internet circles for his criticisms of religion (and a source for that would be necessary) but his fame beyond that is for his science reporting (and being attacked with a hammer). To date your comments look more like original research, and I would like to see more third-party sources that explicitly discuss his work on religion rather than cobbling together first-hand writings and personal analysis. If a comment on his writing style is desired, then find a third-party source that comments on it - do not include numerous primary source examples that you think illustrates this. That Bokee page is in Chinese (a problem) and further looks like a blog post, which is not suitable for WP:BLP articles. I'm reviewing the changes over the past couple weeks, I will continue later on today. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/ complex 15:00, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
On the religious issue: Chinese media, being all state-owned, seldom discuss anything about religion because it is a 'sensitive topic'. So if by 'third party sources' you mean the media, I can't find any that explicitly discusses Christianity, let alone its critics. Given such special circumstances, I think it is reasonable to use internet sources, like this one here (in English) . -- 林木森森 ( talk) 08:31, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
On his writing style: I'm not putting comments on his writing style in the main article unless there is third party source. -- 林木森森 ( talk) 08:31, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
As for the language issue, you may type the URL in Google translate to get a rough idea of what the webpage is talking about. You may ask User:Wctaiwan for confirmation since he knows Chinese. -- 林木森森 ( talk) 08:31, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
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There is mention of some Nobel prize in article. I am confused about it. Request experienced editors to correct accordingly. Thanks in advance. -- Abhijeet Safai ( talk) 13:52, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
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I added the POV tag to the article because I think the article lacks details about things Fang is apparently known for (criticising alleged fraud in academia, etc.) and focuses on some particular aspects that have attracted controversy. wctaiwan ( talk) 15:26, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
As for how Fang staged a little coup d'état to wrestle the control of the publication to his own hands in 1997, and removing the other co-founders, please refer to here, in which all sources come from Fang's own account of the incident. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 林木森森 ( talk • contribs) 20:26, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
Wikis are not suitable sources for any page on wikipedia, and particularly not BLP. I would not say the question is settled, I will try to confirm the information later today.
It is enough to note that he has criticized Christianity, his major source of fame is for science, not religious polemics. He may have been famous among internet circles for his criticisms of religion (and a source for that would be necessary) but his fame beyond that is for his science reporting (and being attacked with a hammer). To date your comments look more like original research, and I would like to see more third-party sources that explicitly discuss his work on religion rather than cobbling together first-hand writings and personal analysis. If a comment on his writing style is desired, then find a third-party source that comments on it - do not include numerous primary source examples that you think illustrates this. That Bokee page is in Chinese (a problem) and further looks like a blog post, which is not suitable for WP:BLP articles. I'm reviewing the changes over the past couple weeks, I will continue later on today. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/ complex 15:00, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
On the religious issue: Chinese media, being all state-owned, seldom discuss anything about religion because it is a 'sensitive topic'. So if by 'third party sources' you mean the media, I can't find any that explicitly discusses Christianity, let alone its critics. Given such special circumstances, I think it is reasonable to use internet sources, like this one here (in English) . -- 林木森森 ( talk) 08:31, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
On his writing style: I'm not putting comments on his writing style in the main article unless there is third party source. -- 林木森森 ( talk) 08:31, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
As for the language issue, you may type the URL in Google translate to get a rough idea of what the webpage is talking about. You may ask User:Wctaiwan for confirmation since he knows Chinese. -- 林木森森 ( talk) 08:31, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
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There is mention of some Nobel prize in article. I am confused about it. Request experienced editors to correct accordingly. Thanks in advance. -- Abhijeet Safai ( talk) 13:52, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
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