"Family 1, also known as the Lake Group, is the name given to a group of Greek New Testament minuscule manuscripts of the Gospels, identified by biblical scholar Kirsopp Lake." is sourced to
Metzinger 4th ed p. 86 which supports all of the information except "also known as the Lake Group" which needs some sort of source
Actually couldn't find a single source which referred to it as "the Lake Group" bar the encyclopedia of textual criticism; however as no source there, I've just removed this completely.
Stephen Walch (
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21:05, 23 January 2024 (UTC)reply
" (The text-types are groups of different New Testament manuscripts which share specific or generally related readings, which then differ from each other group, and thus the conflicting readings can separate out the groups. These are then used to determine the original text as published; the three main types are as above.)" is sourced to
Metzinger 4th ed. pp. 205-230 which near as I can tell does support the information (it's a rather ... convoluted section in the source - heh.)
"Biblical scholar Amy Anderson made a new reconstruction of the family tree in 2004, demonstrating minuscule 1582 was a more exact representation of the text of the archetype than minuscule 1." is sourced to
Anderson p. 114 but p. 114 is actually a different conference paper - Anderson's paper runs from p. 119 to p. 161. - this should be fixed.
"A similar scholion appears in the minuscules 22, 1192, and 1210:
Note Prior to Mark 16:9-20[5]: 132 " is sourced to
Anderson p. 132 which supports the information
"Biblical scholar Silva Lake (wife of Kirsopp Lake), discovered that Minuscule 652 represents the text of ƒ1 in Mark 4:20-6:24, though this agreement was mainly with minuscules 118, 131, and 209, as opposed to a similar agreement with minuscule 1." is sourced to
this source p. 33 which supports the information
"According to the Claremont Profile Method (a specific analysis of textual data), the group profiles of the Lake's Family in Luke 1, 10, and 20 are:
Per
MOS:SEEALSO "As a general rule, the "See also" section should not repeat links that appear in the article's body" - at least Caesarean text-type should be removed. Also, biblical manuscript and textual criticism should probably be linked in the article text rather than used as a see also links.
I've put the article on hold for seven days to allow folks to address the issues I've brought up. Feel free to contact me on my talk page, or here with any concerns, and let me know one of those places when the issues have been addressed. If I may suggest that you strike out, check mark, or otherwise mark the items I've detailed, that will make it possible for me to see what's been addressed, and you can keep track of what's been done and what still needs to be worked on.
Ealdgyth (
talk)
16:02, 23 January 2024 (UTC)reply
"Family 1, also known as the Lake Group, is the name given to a group of Greek New Testament minuscule manuscripts of the Gospels, identified by biblical scholar Kirsopp Lake." is sourced to
Metzinger 4th ed p. 86 which supports all of the information except "also known as the Lake Group" which needs some sort of source
Actually couldn't find a single source which referred to it as "the Lake Group" bar the encyclopedia of textual criticism; however as no source there, I've just removed this completely.
Stephen Walch (
talk)
21:05, 23 January 2024 (UTC)reply
" (The text-types are groups of different New Testament manuscripts which share specific or generally related readings, which then differ from each other group, and thus the conflicting readings can separate out the groups. These are then used to determine the original text as published; the three main types are as above.)" is sourced to
Metzinger 4th ed. pp. 205-230 which near as I can tell does support the information (it's a rather ... convoluted section in the source - heh.)
"Biblical scholar Amy Anderson made a new reconstruction of the family tree in 2004, demonstrating minuscule 1582 was a more exact representation of the text of the archetype than minuscule 1." is sourced to
Anderson p. 114 but p. 114 is actually a different conference paper - Anderson's paper runs from p. 119 to p. 161. - this should be fixed.
"A similar scholion appears in the minuscules 22, 1192, and 1210:
Note Prior to Mark 16:9-20[5]: 132 " is sourced to
Anderson p. 132 which supports the information
"Biblical scholar Silva Lake (wife of Kirsopp Lake), discovered that Minuscule 652 represents the text of ƒ1 in Mark 4:20-6:24, though this agreement was mainly with minuscules 118, 131, and 209, as opposed to a similar agreement with minuscule 1." is sourced to
this source p. 33 which supports the information
"According to the Claremont Profile Method (a specific analysis of textual data), the group profiles of the Lake's Family in Luke 1, 10, and 20 are:
Per
MOS:SEEALSO "As a general rule, the "See also" section should not repeat links that appear in the article's body" - at least Caesarean text-type should be removed. Also, biblical manuscript and textual criticism should probably be linked in the article text rather than used as a see also links.
I've put the article on hold for seven days to allow folks to address the issues I've brought up. Feel free to contact me on my talk page, or here with any concerns, and let me know one of those places when the issues have been addressed. If I may suggest that you strike out, check mark, or otherwise mark the items I've detailed, that will make it possible for me to see what's been addressed, and you can keep track of what's been done and what still needs to be worked on.
Ealdgyth (
talk)
16:02, 23 January 2024 (UTC)reply