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I fixed some problems again with this article. YHWH (or even Yhvh) is not an abbvreviation. See Tetragrammaton for a complete explanation. The word Noahide should be capitalized as it is derived from Noah. It needs to be made clear who holds the various views described in the article. Please do not revert these changes without discussing. DJ Clayworth ( talk) 23:28, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Notice most religions have a head god (Zeus, Jupiter, God, Allah, YHWH, Brahman, etc.), and a host of lesser divine beings (angels, demi gods, demons, spirits, ghosts, etc.). The one god differentiator is a false religious teaching that flies in the face of facts.
After all, Noahides are believing and worshipping under Jewish law, and are thus making pledges and acting under the auspices of Judaism, even if they aren't doing it to the extent of official Jews. So we might as well regard Noahidism to be a subcategory of Judaism. 198.151.130.45 ( talk) 03:16, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
Is there any evidence / sourcing that atheist actually name one more false god than monotheists? Or is the false-god idol idiom never used in atheist contexts Arnoutf ( talk) 17:09, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
The definition sounds mean spirited when I read it. The idea that the term "false god" is derogatory, is ridiculous. When people use the term false god, it comes from their viewpoint that their God is the only true God; so they are just stating a fact, and warning people, by saying it's a false god, not being derogatory. 2804:431:CFFC:F969:5462:EC63:8DD5:B9ED ( talk) 15:10, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
As it said in the article, it was a derogatory term, referring to a slur. Derogatory terms/slurs are aliases for discriminated people, and it needs to be added to this page and the template. Lilkitty200 ( talk) 22:56, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
The header contains passages that use several references to pre-Islamic Arabia, without mentioning them as such. The original author used sources referencing pre-Islamic Arabia, and seemingly used his/her own judgement to interpret/superimpose their meaning onto Islam. (Generally, the whole article needs reworking) This is one specific excerpt in which the source exclusively discussing pre-Islamic Arabia. Any objections to me removing it?:
Other similar entities are the shurakāʼ ("partners [of God]"), whose existence is not denied, however their relation to God is. They are regarded as powerless beings, who will be cast into Hell after the Day of Judgment, along with evil jinn and fallen angels turned devils (shayāṭīn), for usurping the divine nature. [1]: 41 Western.galilee ( talk) 14:27, 16 December 2023 (UTC) Western.galilee ( talk) 14:27, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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I think this inclusion is a non-neutral point of view, and I don’t see the sources provided as appropriately supporting it. The Oxford English Dictionary does not list the word “false” as offensive in sense III.13.b, and specifically provides the example of “false god.” Most words that Wikipedia describes as offensive are likewise described as offensive in the OED, and this discrepancy is one that I think should be examined. It has been brought up on this talk page before, but seems to have not been taken up. Ed is the standard text editor ( talk) 17:58, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
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I fixed some problems again with this article. YHWH (or even Yhvh) is not an abbvreviation. See Tetragrammaton for a complete explanation. The word Noahide should be capitalized as it is derived from Noah. It needs to be made clear who holds the various views described in the article. Please do not revert these changes without discussing. DJ Clayworth ( talk) 23:28, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Notice most religions have a head god (Zeus, Jupiter, God, Allah, YHWH, Brahman, etc.), and a host of lesser divine beings (angels, demi gods, demons, spirits, ghosts, etc.). The one god differentiator is a false religious teaching that flies in the face of facts.
After all, Noahides are believing and worshipping under Jewish law, and are thus making pledges and acting under the auspices of Judaism, even if they aren't doing it to the extent of official Jews. So we might as well regard Noahidism to be a subcategory of Judaism. 198.151.130.45 ( talk) 03:16, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
Is there any evidence / sourcing that atheist actually name one more false god than monotheists? Or is the false-god idol idiom never used in atheist contexts Arnoutf ( talk) 17:09, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
The definition sounds mean spirited when I read it. The idea that the term "false god" is derogatory, is ridiculous. When people use the term false god, it comes from their viewpoint that their God is the only true God; so they are just stating a fact, and warning people, by saying it's a false god, not being derogatory. 2804:431:CFFC:F969:5462:EC63:8DD5:B9ED ( talk) 15:10, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
As it said in the article, it was a derogatory term, referring to a slur. Derogatory terms/slurs are aliases for discriminated people, and it needs to be added to this page and the template. Lilkitty200 ( talk) 22:56, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
The header contains passages that use several references to pre-Islamic Arabia, without mentioning them as such. The original author used sources referencing pre-Islamic Arabia, and seemingly used his/her own judgement to interpret/superimpose their meaning onto Islam. (Generally, the whole article needs reworking) This is one specific excerpt in which the source exclusively discussing pre-Islamic Arabia. Any objections to me removing it?:
Other similar entities are the shurakāʼ ("partners [of God]"), whose existence is not denied, however their relation to God is. They are regarded as powerless beings, who will be cast into Hell after the Day of Judgment, along with evil jinn and fallen angels turned devils (shayāṭīn), for usurping the divine nature. [1]: 41 Western.galilee ( talk) 14:27, 16 December 2023 (UTC) Western.galilee ( talk) 14:27, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
References
I think this inclusion is a non-neutral point of view, and I don’t see the sources provided as appropriately supporting it. The Oxford English Dictionary does not list the word “false” as offensive in sense III.13.b, and specifically provides the example of “false god.” Most words that Wikipedia describes as offensive are likewise described as offensive in the OED, and this discrepancy is one that I think should be examined. It has been brought up on this talk page before, but seems to have not been taken up. Ed is the standard text editor ( talk) 17:58, 22 June 2024 (UTC)