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What in the world in the "BBFC certification" and why is it before the all important introduction/definition paragraph. It can't be more important than that. -- mav
Yes, Wikipedia contains spoilers. But why do people feel they must include spoilers? This puzzles me. Better to leave them out whenever possible.
My Wikipedia:Original research is that D-FENS is Dilbert.-- Error 01:36, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
"The movie was made during the recession...." through "...last man standing in a post-human Venice." .....do these things strike anyone as a little un-Wiki like?
The only scene from which racist implications could be derived involves William being instructed by a local child, who is black, on how to operate a rocket launcher. When he incredulously asks how he knows such things, the kid responds, "I saw it in a movie." Most simply see this as either light humour or cultural commentary.
I don't see how that could ever be considered by anyone as racist. Are they implying that all black children have nothing better to do than learn about guns and violence!!!! It was obviously a social comment on how much television kids watch and what they can learn from it, it's not always a good thing.
The movie wasn't so much considered racist as it was considered using stereotypes unfairly. People were angry that Hispanics were made to be gangsters and Asians were greedy con artists. They of course ignored the Asian detective and the Hispanic detective that showed that both minorities could be honest hard working people as well.-- Skeev 21:42, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Just goes to show you, the human race loves to whine. Now, where's my duffelbag?-- Agent Aquamarine 00:30, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Don't do it Aquamarine! You've got so much to live for! Oh, whats that? Your ex-wife reminds you of the one in Falling Down? Oh, geez, thats ok then. Here, borrow my duffelbag too. 203.59.189.173 ( talk) 13:44, 28 April 2010 (UTC) Sutter Cane It is racist movie, all of it is filled with racst things, just admit it!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.252.4.21 ( talk) 07:41, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Here I was thinking that this was in regard to the "Falling Down has been described as a definitive exploration of the notion of the "angry white male";" snippet in the article. I wonder if such a line in the Boyz n The Hood wikipedia entry would go unnoticed; "Boyz n The Hood has been described as a definitive exploration of the notion of the "nigger" stereotype. 173.70.57.161 ( talk) 09:48, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
Do we have any confirmation on the origin of the title? Saying it's a reference to London Bridge seems farfetched to me.-- Agent Aquamarine 00:43, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
I was surprised to see that, nowhere in the article, had there been a mention of the 1992 Los Angeles riots (Rodney King riots as they were also known). The riots took place while the movie was being filmed, and was from tensions of class, race and general economic frustration that were presented in the film. I vividly remember a press-junket type interview with Michael Douglas, at the time of the movie's release, where they brought up the coincidental but very relevant crossroad of these events. Thus, I have added it to the article. Any discussion of the social context of this film should most certainly note that. Happy editting ;-) -- Bobak 19:24, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
It has no relevance. The film was released almost a year after the riots, and nothing in the film even indirectly references the riots, nor was the movie specifically set during April 1992, nor (to my knowledge) did any of the analyses or reviews of the movie at the time it was released compare it to the riots. Douglas may have thought the timing was significant, but that doesn't make it so, especially since there's no indication that the riots prompted the director to alter the film's message in any way. I think the riot reference should be removed or placed in the trivia section. BryanEkers 18:40, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
a commentary on most Americans' ignorance to other cultures and unpublicized rivalries in supposedly homogenous "Asian" culture
Added 'weasel words'. 24.239.129.219 08:58, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
"...starts to force people out of his way – with violence or ass rape, if necessary." in the first section of the article. I don't know about using "ass rape" lol. Janechii 15:25, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
This section needs citations for all of its claims. - Zepheus <ツィフィアス> 18:21, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
"Prime Minister Of Finland, Matti Vanhanen bears a remarkable resemblance to Douglas's character." What is this crap? How is Matti Vanhanen similar to Douglas' character, apart from being white and male? How proper is it to compare real life figures to movie villains? Ileppane 00:38, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
I added a Cultural references section.. And just linked to the image I uploaded. Was not sure how to get a thumb that did not disrupt the page flow. So if anybody else wants to do that, thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sleighboy ( talk • contribs) 20:52, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
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"While watching, he marvels at a "toy" water-pistol bought as a present for his young daughter on her birthday, and considers the culture of violence which makes a mockery of the very reality he carries in his duffel bag"
There's no information about the soundtrack yet. It seems a seperate soundtrack has never been released. All I found was a bootleg, combining it with the music of 'Flatliners' (which is also superb!) Track listing:
Flatliners
1. A Good Day To Die (1.54)
2. Redemption (4.28)
3. Diary Of A Surgeon (2.27)
4. Nelson's Challenge (3.15)
5. Flying / First Expedition (1.38)
6. Reflections In The Evening (3.22)
7. Tunnel Of Light / Second Expedition (0.46)
8. Back Alleys (1.03)
9. Voices (1.34)
10. Flashback / Third Expedition (0.36)
11. Sins Of The Past (3.00)
12. Memories / Fourth Expedition (1.06)
13. Atonement (1.18)
14. Forgiveness (1.50)
15. To Fly Alone / Final Expedition (0.59)
Total Length: 29.17
Falling Down
16. 110 Freeway (2.01)
17. South Central (2.37)
18. Miracle Mile (1.24)
19. Hollywood (2.41)
20. West L.A. (0.58)
21. Santa Monica (2.39)
22. Venice (3.50)
23. Pier (3.46)
24. Pacific Ocean (2.07)
25. Closing Theme From Falling Down (4.33)
Total Length: 26.37 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dasmich82 ( talk • contribs) 07:53, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Apparently someone found the depiction of the asian shopkeeper offensive. There's no doubt about it that a lot of scenes in the film can be seen as racist portrayals. Certainly, a lot of the depictions of the minorities (be it black, asian, hispanic, or white supremacist) are quite a bit exaggerated... indeed, they can certainly be considered stereotypes.
However, to create a section that cites no references, and creates an imaginary group with an opinion on the film is truly a good example of bad editing.
If there IS controversy, it should be cited. If you'd like to add a section about stereotypes, and can do so without speculation, you should do so. But don't add in YOUR opinion just because something bugs you. This is wikipedia, not an internet forum. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.2.74.161 ( talk) 11:22, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
I've removed references to the main character as murderously and homicidally violent. Although it's implied that he might try to kill his family, in actual fact he only (intentionally) kills one person. All of the violent acts committed by the character are reactive and seem largely intended to assert the power he doesn't normally feel, not to cause the deaths of others. Ttherefor I don't think his rampage can be labeled murderous. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.102.28.93 ( talk) 07:28, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
"It is implied in their dialogue, and in earlier moments of the plot, that Prendergast has just as many reasons to delve into violence and despair as Foster does, yet Prendergast has a higher degree of empathy, which, perhaps, makes a crucial difference between the two."
I just recently finished watching this film. He is not wearing "fatigues" which normally denotes some sort of attempt at camouflage. These were all black, and looked more like a set of coveralls a mechanic would wear. I am suggesting a change to "coveralls" or something along the lines of "an all black jumpsuit." 68.165.245.234 ( talk) 17:28, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Plot summaries do not require references, the idea being that the film itself is the source. With this in mind, I am considering removing the two refs which are currently in the opening paragraph of the plot. These seem to be there to source the relatively unimportant claim that Douglas' character worked for a "defense agency". This is unnecessary. If no one objects, I am going to removed the refs. Perhaps a place can be found for them in the production section. --- The Old Jacobite The '45 15:38, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
I do not claim that they would constitute reliable sources, however they say common sense/intelligent things about the film. So, it is not an appeal to authority, but instead rendering quotes from what others have said before, it is called quotation with attribution. While the Truby site has some advertising my intention is not to spam the wiki, but to improve its contents. I think brief quotations may be used in articles even when the source is a commercial website. Quality matters, not the being commercial or non-profit. Imho, their comments are unlikely to stir controversy and even if they aren't reliable sources they are unlikely to be challenged since the film is indeed a comedy, a black comedy. I know it because I had tears in my eyes from so much laughing when I saw the film. Tgeorgescu ( talk) 11:03, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
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I am adding a couple of short bits to the plot summary, to include Foster's calling Beth (his ex-wife) and telling her that he is "coming home" and his nutty ranting, from which she infers that he is coming to kill her and Adele; also, her calling the local cops, who offer only brief, symbolic protection. Without this additional info, it's not clear why she flees the home as he approaches. HandsomeMrToad ( talk) 08:40, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
UPDATE: It might also be good to include the development of Detective Prendergast's character, which is a significant reason the movie is so good. Early in the film, he is hen-pecked by his neurotic wife, and plans to retire early and move to Lake Havasu; his boss thinks he's a coward and also doubts the validity of his concerns about Foster. Then, after he follows through on his pursuit of Foster and saves the day, he asserts himself over his wife and his boss, and decides to stay in LA and continue being an cop. It's a very satisfying sub-plot, but the virtue of keeping the plot summary from being too long needs to be balanced against the benefit of including it in the summary. (Brevity is the soul of wit.) So I'll leave this judgement call for other editors.
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With the last line "Foster pulls a water gun, forcing Prendergast to shoot him dead" should be changed to include the 'Duel' or 'Standoff' Foster and Prendergast have at the finale. For example: Foster, revealing he has a gun in his pocket, challenges Prendergast to a duel, Prendergast initially refuses and attempts to talk Foster out of it, however Foster starts counting down from three. On one, Prendergast shoots Foster in the chest, Foster pulls out of his pocket, Adele's water pistol and says "I would have got you" before falling off the pier, into the water. Obviously it would need editing and maybe shortening but it is the great finale to the movie and I think it should be givin justice. tell me what you think of it. -- 222.154.167.12 ( talk) 09:33, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
I felt that the plot summary ended too abruptly and was puzzled as to why the final scene was left out. It includes the ending to the subplot involving Prendergast and his wife and I felt the footage on the TV ended the film quite well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.70.129.92 ( talk) 04:28, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
The character infobox should not be used in the film article. It adds nothing to our understanding of the film. Furthermore, as has been pointed out at the Film Project, the FUR for the image is invalid if used in the film article. If there is enough information about the character in reliable third party sources, a character article can be created. Otherwise, this is really a dead issue. Pointing out that another film article makes the same error is no help to the cause. --- The Old Jacobite The '45 03:17, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
Although the plot summary is good for the most part, I think the final sentence ruins the flow that it had going. It ends abruptly with simply "Foster pulls a water gun tricking Prendergrast into shooting him dead." However I think it could stretched out further with something like "Foster and Prendergrast stand-off. Foster pulls out a water gun, and coaxes Prendergrast into shooting him dead. He falls off the pier in front of his family and a regretful Prendergrast." Something short like that would add more fluidity and conclusion to the plot and not compromise the length. Ducktech89 ( talk) 12:27, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
I'd like to open a debate as the the genre to which Falling Down belongs. To me it is less a thriller than it is a very dark, satirical comedy. I'd be curious to know what other's think. 203.220.212.117 ( talk) 14:48, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
Would anyone care to add that the Iron Maiden song Man on the Edge was inspired by this film? /info/en/?search=Man_on_the_Edge Cheers! FiggazWithAttitude ( talk) 14:43, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
I added a few important plot points about the ending that I believe are critical to understand the story. The old version of the plot summary made Foster's decision to draw a water pistol in his final duel with Prendergast seem almost random, with no mention of why Foster chose to trick Prendergast into killing him. But Foster's realization that he is the villain, and his subsequent decision to to commit suicide by cop, serve as the end of his character's and the movie's story arc. The film uses the classic plot of a protagonist whose motivations degrade until they're unrecognizable even to the protagonist themselves, and Foster's horrified realization that he is "the bad guy" provides the end to this plot. The summary is simply incomplete without mention why Foster chooses to be killed at the end of the movie. Voteins ( talk) 06:35, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
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What in the world in the "BBFC certification" and why is it before the all important introduction/definition paragraph. It can't be more important than that. -- mav
Yes, Wikipedia contains spoilers. But why do people feel they must include spoilers? This puzzles me. Better to leave them out whenever possible.
My Wikipedia:Original research is that D-FENS is Dilbert.-- Error 01:36, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
"The movie was made during the recession...." through "...last man standing in a post-human Venice." .....do these things strike anyone as a little un-Wiki like?
The only scene from which racist implications could be derived involves William being instructed by a local child, who is black, on how to operate a rocket launcher. When he incredulously asks how he knows such things, the kid responds, "I saw it in a movie." Most simply see this as either light humour or cultural commentary.
I don't see how that could ever be considered by anyone as racist. Are they implying that all black children have nothing better to do than learn about guns and violence!!!! It was obviously a social comment on how much television kids watch and what they can learn from it, it's not always a good thing.
The movie wasn't so much considered racist as it was considered using stereotypes unfairly. People were angry that Hispanics were made to be gangsters and Asians were greedy con artists. They of course ignored the Asian detective and the Hispanic detective that showed that both minorities could be honest hard working people as well.-- Skeev 21:42, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Just goes to show you, the human race loves to whine. Now, where's my duffelbag?-- Agent Aquamarine 00:30, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Don't do it Aquamarine! You've got so much to live for! Oh, whats that? Your ex-wife reminds you of the one in Falling Down? Oh, geez, thats ok then. Here, borrow my duffelbag too. 203.59.189.173 ( talk) 13:44, 28 April 2010 (UTC) Sutter Cane It is racist movie, all of it is filled with racst things, just admit it!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.252.4.21 ( talk) 07:41, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Here I was thinking that this was in regard to the "Falling Down has been described as a definitive exploration of the notion of the "angry white male";" snippet in the article. I wonder if such a line in the Boyz n The Hood wikipedia entry would go unnoticed; "Boyz n The Hood has been described as a definitive exploration of the notion of the "nigger" stereotype. 173.70.57.161 ( talk) 09:48, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
Do we have any confirmation on the origin of the title? Saying it's a reference to London Bridge seems farfetched to me.-- Agent Aquamarine 00:43, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
I was surprised to see that, nowhere in the article, had there been a mention of the 1992 Los Angeles riots (Rodney King riots as they were also known). The riots took place while the movie was being filmed, and was from tensions of class, race and general economic frustration that were presented in the film. I vividly remember a press-junket type interview with Michael Douglas, at the time of the movie's release, where they brought up the coincidental but very relevant crossroad of these events. Thus, I have added it to the article. Any discussion of the social context of this film should most certainly note that. Happy editting ;-) -- Bobak 19:24, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
It has no relevance. The film was released almost a year after the riots, and nothing in the film even indirectly references the riots, nor was the movie specifically set during April 1992, nor (to my knowledge) did any of the analyses or reviews of the movie at the time it was released compare it to the riots. Douglas may have thought the timing was significant, but that doesn't make it so, especially since there's no indication that the riots prompted the director to alter the film's message in any way. I think the riot reference should be removed or placed in the trivia section. BryanEkers 18:40, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
a commentary on most Americans' ignorance to other cultures and unpublicized rivalries in supposedly homogenous "Asian" culture
Added 'weasel words'. 24.239.129.219 08:58, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
"...starts to force people out of his way – with violence or ass rape, if necessary." in the first section of the article. I don't know about using "ass rape" lol. Janechii 15:25, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
This section needs citations for all of its claims. - Zepheus <ツィフィアス> 18:21, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
"Prime Minister Of Finland, Matti Vanhanen bears a remarkable resemblance to Douglas's character." What is this crap? How is Matti Vanhanen similar to Douglas' character, apart from being white and male? How proper is it to compare real life figures to movie villains? Ileppane 00:38, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
I added a Cultural references section.. And just linked to the image I uploaded. Was not sure how to get a thumb that did not disrupt the page flow. So if anybody else wants to do that, thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sleighboy ( talk • contribs) 20:52, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
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"While watching, he marvels at a "toy" water-pistol bought as a present for his young daughter on her birthday, and considers the culture of violence which makes a mockery of the very reality he carries in his duffel bag"
There's no information about the soundtrack yet. It seems a seperate soundtrack has never been released. All I found was a bootleg, combining it with the music of 'Flatliners' (which is also superb!) Track listing:
Flatliners
1. A Good Day To Die (1.54)
2. Redemption (4.28)
3. Diary Of A Surgeon (2.27)
4. Nelson's Challenge (3.15)
5. Flying / First Expedition (1.38)
6. Reflections In The Evening (3.22)
7. Tunnel Of Light / Second Expedition (0.46)
8. Back Alleys (1.03)
9. Voices (1.34)
10. Flashback / Third Expedition (0.36)
11. Sins Of The Past (3.00)
12. Memories / Fourth Expedition (1.06)
13. Atonement (1.18)
14. Forgiveness (1.50)
15. To Fly Alone / Final Expedition (0.59)
Total Length: 29.17
Falling Down
16. 110 Freeway (2.01)
17. South Central (2.37)
18. Miracle Mile (1.24)
19. Hollywood (2.41)
20. West L.A. (0.58)
21. Santa Monica (2.39)
22. Venice (3.50)
23. Pier (3.46)
24. Pacific Ocean (2.07)
25. Closing Theme From Falling Down (4.33)
Total Length: 26.37 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dasmich82 ( talk • contribs) 07:53, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Apparently someone found the depiction of the asian shopkeeper offensive. There's no doubt about it that a lot of scenes in the film can be seen as racist portrayals. Certainly, a lot of the depictions of the minorities (be it black, asian, hispanic, or white supremacist) are quite a bit exaggerated... indeed, they can certainly be considered stereotypes.
However, to create a section that cites no references, and creates an imaginary group with an opinion on the film is truly a good example of bad editing.
If there IS controversy, it should be cited. If you'd like to add a section about stereotypes, and can do so without speculation, you should do so. But don't add in YOUR opinion just because something bugs you. This is wikipedia, not an internet forum. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.2.74.161 ( talk) 11:22, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
I've removed references to the main character as murderously and homicidally violent. Although it's implied that he might try to kill his family, in actual fact he only (intentionally) kills one person. All of the violent acts committed by the character are reactive and seem largely intended to assert the power he doesn't normally feel, not to cause the deaths of others. Ttherefor I don't think his rampage can be labeled murderous. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.102.28.93 ( talk) 07:28, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
"It is implied in their dialogue, and in earlier moments of the plot, that Prendergast has just as many reasons to delve into violence and despair as Foster does, yet Prendergast has a higher degree of empathy, which, perhaps, makes a crucial difference between the two."
I just recently finished watching this film. He is not wearing "fatigues" which normally denotes some sort of attempt at camouflage. These were all black, and looked more like a set of coveralls a mechanic would wear. I am suggesting a change to "coveralls" or something along the lines of "an all black jumpsuit." 68.165.245.234 ( talk) 17:28, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Plot summaries do not require references, the idea being that the film itself is the source. With this in mind, I am considering removing the two refs which are currently in the opening paragraph of the plot. These seem to be there to source the relatively unimportant claim that Douglas' character worked for a "defense agency". This is unnecessary. If no one objects, I am going to removed the refs. Perhaps a place can be found for them in the production section. --- The Old Jacobite The '45 15:38, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
I do not claim that they would constitute reliable sources, however they say common sense/intelligent things about the film. So, it is not an appeal to authority, but instead rendering quotes from what others have said before, it is called quotation with attribution. While the Truby site has some advertising my intention is not to spam the wiki, but to improve its contents. I think brief quotations may be used in articles even when the source is a commercial website. Quality matters, not the being commercial or non-profit. Imho, their comments are unlikely to stir controversy and even if they aren't reliable sources they are unlikely to be challenged since the film is indeed a comedy, a black comedy. I know it because I had tears in my eyes from so much laughing when I saw the film. Tgeorgescu ( talk) 11:03, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
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I am adding a couple of short bits to the plot summary, to include Foster's calling Beth (his ex-wife) and telling her that he is "coming home" and his nutty ranting, from which she infers that he is coming to kill her and Adele; also, her calling the local cops, who offer only brief, symbolic protection. Without this additional info, it's not clear why she flees the home as he approaches. HandsomeMrToad ( talk) 08:40, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
UPDATE: It might also be good to include the development of Detective Prendergast's character, which is a significant reason the movie is so good. Early in the film, he is hen-pecked by his neurotic wife, and plans to retire early and move to Lake Havasu; his boss thinks he's a coward and also doubts the validity of his concerns about Foster. Then, after he follows through on his pursuit of Foster and saves the day, he asserts himself over his wife and his boss, and decides to stay in LA and continue being an cop. It's a very satisfying sub-plot, but the virtue of keeping the plot summary from being too long needs to be balanced against the benefit of including it in the summary. (Brevity is the soul of wit.) So I'll leave this judgement call for other editors.
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With the last line "Foster pulls a water gun, forcing Prendergast to shoot him dead" should be changed to include the 'Duel' or 'Standoff' Foster and Prendergast have at the finale. For example: Foster, revealing he has a gun in his pocket, challenges Prendergast to a duel, Prendergast initially refuses and attempts to talk Foster out of it, however Foster starts counting down from three. On one, Prendergast shoots Foster in the chest, Foster pulls out of his pocket, Adele's water pistol and says "I would have got you" before falling off the pier, into the water. Obviously it would need editing and maybe shortening but it is the great finale to the movie and I think it should be givin justice. tell me what you think of it. -- 222.154.167.12 ( talk) 09:33, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
I felt that the plot summary ended too abruptly and was puzzled as to why the final scene was left out. It includes the ending to the subplot involving Prendergast and his wife and I felt the footage on the TV ended the film quite well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.70.129.92 ( talk) 04:28, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
The character infobox should not be used in the film article. It adds nothing to our understanding of the film. Furthermore, as has been pointed out at the Film Project, the FUR for the image is invalid if used in the film article. If there is enough information about the character in reliable third party sources, a character article can be created. Otherwise, this is really a dead issue. Pointing out that another film article makes the same error is no help to the cause. --- The Old Jacobite The '45 03:17, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
Although the plot summary is good for the most part, I think the final sentence ruins the flow that it had going. It ends abruptly with simply "Foster pulls a water gun tricking Prendergrast into shooting him dead." However I think it could stretched out further with something like "Foster and Prendergrast stand-off. Foster pulls out a water gun, and coaxes Prendergrast into shooting him dead. He falls off the pier in front of his family and a regretful Prendergrast." Something short like that would add more fluidity and conclusion to the plot and not compromise the length. Ducktech89 ( talk) 12:27, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
I'd like to open a debate as the the genre to which Falling Down belongs. To me it is less a thriller than it is a very dark, satirical comedy. I'd be curious to know what other's think. 203.220.212.117 ( talk) 14:48, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
Would anyone care to add that the Iron Maiden song Man on the Edge was inspired by this film? /info/en/?search=Man_on_the_Edge Cheers! FiggazWithAttitude ( talk) 14:43, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
I added a few important plot points about the ending that I believe are critical to understand the story. The old version of the plot summary made Foster's decision to draw a water pistol in his final duel with Prendergast seem almost random, with no mention of why Foster chose to trick Prendergast into killing him. But Foster's realization that he is the villain, and his subsequent decision to to commit suicide by cop, serve as the end of his character's and the movie's story arc. The film uses the classic plot of a protagonist whose motivations degrade until they're unrecognizable even to the protagonist themselves, and Foster's horrified realization that he is "the bad guy" provides the end to this plot. The summary is simply incomplete without mention why Foster chooses to be killed at the end of the movie. Voteins ( talk) 06:35, 28 July 2019 (UTC)