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The following text was recently added to the article:
Facebook suffers from several security loopholes. Certain profiles/photos that normally prove inaccessible may be accessed through the messages menu, by clicking on the portrait of a person who isn't a Friend. This means that if a person is harassing you, do not send an E-mail reply back to them as they can use your profile to get information on you.
I removed it for a number of reasons. First, "several" is not one. Secondly, this may not be a security loophole but instead an assumption by the people that run facebook that you'll allow anyone you message to see your information. Thirdly, the use of "you" is plain bad style.
If anyone can substantiate this as a real loophole, feel free to edit this and re-insert. As it stands, I am disinclined to do so myself. Thesquire 03:52, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
I think the whole criticms section is very poor and should be deleted or revised. It's essentially whining without personal pronouns. Electricbassguy
Do we have sources for any of the criticisms of Facebook? Right now, the section is a lot of "some people think" without ever specifying who it is that thinks these things, and I'm worried that it's going to turn into a place for people who don't like Facebook for whatever reason to come and vent their frustrations anonymously on the Wikipedia. Really, the most common criticism I've heard - the one that's been mentioned over and over in the news articles I've read while working on this - is the privacy issue, and that isn't even mentioned in the Criticisms section right now. Does anyone have some good ideas for how we could fix this section up? - AdelaMae ( talk - contribs) 08:04, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
I don't even see how the "fake profiles" are a bad thing. They're pretty amusing. Electricbassguy
Can we please decide whether or not to include this guy in the article? -- Thesquire ( talk - contribs) 08:52, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
eduardo was a friend of mark and dustin's but wasn't a founder of facebook. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.15.20.246 ( talk • contribs) 18:56, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
Can anyone provide any source to confirm this guy's involvement? The current edit war over whether he was an "initial funder" or a "co-founder" is silly, especially considering that all the people who insist that he was in fact involved are not making edits from valid Wikipedia user accounts. I propose that his name be removed from the article until someone can provide a source to clarify the degree of his involvement, if he was in fact involved at all. NBS525 04:37, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Eduardo is in fact a founder of facebook. facebook was founded by eduardo and mark in partnership, and dustin only later joined. it is simple to verify this fact.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 140.247.125.232 ( talk • contribs) 22:41, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
he is a founder. view a google search and page graphic above. as example, look at a feb. 2005 article http://thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=505942 which lists key players of the site. dustin was first employee, with mark and eduardo as the first two founders. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 141.154.199.156 ( talk • contribs) 07:09, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
I don't want to take a position on his inclusion yet but heres an article in the Yale newspaper (not exactly verification but still) that says Joboozle.com [3] "was founded by a group of six college seniors, four of whom attend Harvard, including thefacebook.com co-founder Eduardo Saverin." Joboozle describes their service saying "Joboozle provides both college students and employers with... integrated profiles... [and a] social networking interface with which they can directly communicate with company recruiters and representatives" so it appears Mr. Saverin has founded some sort of competitor to Facebook. This might explain all the 3RR wars going on between anon. ips with only Facebook related contribs. However, Saverin is not listed on Joboozle's 'about the team' page, so who knows? - L1AM ( talk) 07:26, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
The article currently states that the feature to add your current course schedule was added in September 2004. I graduated in the spring of 2004 yet I still recall being able to post my class schedule when I was in school. Can anyone confirm the date that this feature was added? dsemaya 02:46, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Some anon. users from 204.8.190.xxx (all from Big River Telephone, Missouri, USA) keep re-adding the Southeast Missourian article. I've read the article a few times now and cannot find anything useful about it. We already have enough college newspaper articles and more should be added only if they provide something useful. Please stop with the linkspam to a non-notable article. — L1AM ( talk) 04:12, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
There are citations, references, and additional information to point to in regards to the part I added about the alcohol citations at NCSU. I'm a n00b, and don't know if I would be putting them in the right place.
This is the first local news article that reported the event along with the segment itself: http://www.wral.com/news/5204275/detail.html
The other news had it available online but doesn't anymore (it happened last fall). Anyway, this is where it was: http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/2833298p-9283981c.html
The school newspaper has also removed the original article and the followups. You can, however, still find other articles that directly reference the event from their homepage. http://www.technicianonline.com/
For more school reaction from the event, this is the topic that talked about it on the unofficial school message boards, also with a link to the now deleted school paper article: http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=360995
The disucssion from thewolfweb also had a little significance in itself because it was used to make the point about how anything from the internet could be used to give you citations by university policy by a university representitive from student conduct in a meeting open to the public hosted by student government.
I haven't researched what wikipedia has about legality of use of such pictures or university policies and enforcement, but there was a news event fairly recently (I think in the last month or so) where a college student recieved was awarded a large sum (around $100,000 I think) because the university kicked him out on charges that had no proof behind them. Anyway, that seemed another issue, but very relevant.
Any help in putting that information in the right place or adding more information would be appreciated. Alan 00:33, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
Removed this from article, talk about it here: On March 27, 2006, Facebook went off-line for an extended period of time. Several users became frustrated and updated Wikipedia. Enraged students complain on campus-wide forums across the nation, wondering when their beloved facebook will come online again. This is probably due to the new search features. Facebook servers must be unable to maintain the workload of network-wide search. This is why forums like SomethingAwful restrict this feature to users who pay for this option. 128.211.251.72 21:14, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
So how many people are now on facebook (total)? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by EKN ( talk • contribs) 03:47, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
I removed some parts from the article that were untagged. Feel free to add them back after finding sources to confirm them.
The end of the Integration of high school users section still is tagged with {{ citeneeded}} regarding the comparisons to issues with MySpace. Please be on the look out for a citation for that as well. — L1AM ( talk) 22:25, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
The following section was removed as it was considered non-notable. If you wish to add it back, please state your reasons here. Thanks! -- L1AM ( talk) 01:47, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
I don't have time to work on this right now, but it seems to me that the article would benefit from paring down the "addition of features" section to include only the really important and verifiable features, like Groups and Photos... whatever is verifiable but minor could be moved to List of Facebook features. - AdelaMa e ( talk - contribs) 05:18, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone understand why exactly they eliminated the colleges listing in the profile menu? Or clubs and jobs? Is there official reasoning behind it?
Has anyone also noticed that merging of profiles has disappeared from the "help" section of facebook?
Abhishek
02:48, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
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The following text was recently added to the article:
Facebook suffers from several security loopholes. Certain profiles/photos that normally prove inaccessible may be accessed through the messages menu, by clicking on the portrait of a person who isn't a Friend. This means that if a person is harassing you, do not send an E-mail reply back to them as they can use your profile to get information on you.
I removed it for a number of reasons. First, "several" is not one. Secondly, this may not be a security loophole but instead an assumption by the people that run facebook that you'll allow anyone you message to see your information. Thirdly, the use of "you" is plain bad style.
If anyone can substantiate this as a real loophole, feel free to edit this and re-insert. As it stands, I am disinclined to do so myself. Thesquire 03:52, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
I think the whole criticms section is very poor and should be deleted or revised. It's essentially whining without personal pronouns. Electricbassguy
Do we have sources for any of the criticisms of Facebook? Right now, the section is a lot of "some people think" without ever specifying who it is that thinks these things, and I'm worried that it's going to turn into a place for people who don't like Facebook for whatever reason to come and vent their frustrations anonymously on the Wikipedia. Really, the most common criticism I've heard - the one that's been mentioned over and over in the news articles I've read while working on this - is the privacy issue, and that isn't even mentioned in the Criticisms section right now. Does anyone have some good ideas for how we could fix this section up? - AdelaMae ( talk - contribs) 08:04, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
I don't even see how the "fake profiles" are a bad thing. They're pretty amusing. Electricbassguy
Can we please decide whether or not to include this guy in the article? -- Thesquire ( talk - contribs) 08:52, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
eduardo was a friend of mark and dustin's but wasn't a founder of facebook. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.15.20.246 ( talk • contribs) 18:56, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
Can anyone provide any source to confirm this guy's involvement? The current edit war over whether he was an "initial funder" or a "co-founder" is silly, especially considering that all the people who insist that he was in fact involved are not making edits from valid Wikipedia user accounts. I propose that his name be removed from the article until someone can provide a source to clarify the degree of his involvement, if he was in fact involved at all. NBS525 04:37, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Eduardo is in fact a founder of facebook. facebook was founded by eduardo and mark in partnership, and dustin only later joined. it is simple to verify this fact.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 140.247.125.232 ( talk • contribs) 22:41, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
he is a founder. view a google search and page graphic above. as example, look at a feb. 2005 article http://thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=505942 which lists key players of the site. dustin was first employee, with mark and eduardo as the first two founders. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 141.154.199.156 ( talk • contribs) 07:09, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
I don't want to take a position on his inclusion yet but heres an article in the Yale newspaper (not exactly verification but still) that says Joboozle.com [3] "was founded by a group of six college seniors, four of whom attend Harvard, including thefacebook.com co-founder Eduardo Saverin." Joboozle describes their service saying "Joboozle provides both college students and employers with... integrated profiles... [and a] social networking interface with which they can directly communicate with company recruiters and representatives" so it appears Mr. Saverin has founded some sort of competitor to Facebook. This might explain all the 3RR wars going on between anon. ips with only Facebook related contribs. However, Saverin is not listed on Joboozle's 'about the team' page, so who knows? - L1AM ( talk) 07:26, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
The article currently states that the feature to add your current course schedule was added in September 2004. I graduated in the spring of 2004 yet I still recall being able to post my class schedule when I was in school. Can anyone confirm the date that this feature was added? dsemaya 02:46, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Some anon. users from 204.8.190.xxx (all from Big River Telephone, Missouri, USA) keep re-adding the Southeast Missourian article. I've read the article a few times now and cannot find anything useful about it. We already have enough college newspaper articles and more should be added only if they provide something useful. Please stop with the linkspam to a non-notable article. — L1AM ( talk) 04:12, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
There are citations, references, and additional information to point to in regards to the part I added about the alcohol citations at NCSU. I'm a n00b, and don't know if I would be putting them in the right place.
This is the first local news article that reported the event along with the segment itself: http://www.wral.com/news/5204275/detail.html
The other news had it available online but doesn't anymore (it happened last fall). Anyway, this is where it was: http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/2833298p-9283981c.html
The school newspaper has also removed the original article and the followups. You can, however, still find other articles that directly reference the event from their homepage. http://www.technicianonline.com/
For more school reaction from the event, this is the topic that talked about it on the unofficial school message boards, also with a link to the now deleted school paper article: http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=360995
The disucssion from thewolfweb also had a little significance in itself because it was used to make the point about how anything from the internet could be used to give you citations by university policy by a university representitive from student conduct in a meeting open to the public hosted by student government.
I haven't researched what wikipedia has about legality of use of such pictures or university policies and enforcement, but there was a news event fairly recently (I think in the last month or so) where a college student recieved was awarded a large sum (around $100,000 I think) because the university kicked him out on charges that had no proof behind them. Anyway, that seemed another issue, but very relevant.
Any help in putting that information in the right place or adding more information would be appreciated. Alan 00:33, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
Removed this from article, talk about it here: On March 27, 2006, Facebook went off-line for an extended period of time. Several users became frustrated and updated Wikipedia. Enraged students complain on campus-wide forums across the nation, wondering when their beloved facebook will come online again. This is probably due to the new search features. Facebook servers must be unable to maintain the workload of network-wide search. This is why forums like SomethingAwful restrict this feature to users who pay for this option. 128.211.251.72 21:14, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
So how many people are now on facebook (total)? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by EKN ( talk • contribs) 03:47, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
I removed some parts from the article that were untagged. Feel free to add them back after finding sources to confirm them.
The end of the Integration of high school users section still is tagged with {{ citeneeded}} regarding the comparisons to issues with MySpace. Please be on the look out for a citation for that as well. — L1AM ( talk) 22:25, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
The following section was removed as it was considered non-notable. If you wish to add it back, please state your reasons here. Thanks! -- L1AM ( talk) 01:47, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
I don't have time to work on this right now, but it seems to me that the article would benefit from paring down the "addition of features" section to include only the really important and verifiable features, like Groups and Photos... whatever is verifiable but minor could be moved to List of Facebook features. - AdelaMa e ( talk - contribs) 05:18, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone understand why exactly they eliminated the colleges listing in the profile menu? Or clubs and jobs? Is there official reasoning behind it?
Has anyone also noticed that merging of profiles has disappeared from the "help" section of facebook?
Abhishek
02:48, 28 April 2006 (UTC)