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The reason I will keep re-adding the link to the homepage of FMovies is simple. It's educational by providing the correct information to those who want it. It's necessary for those who want to avoid fake links, and Wikipedia is a place where aiming for proper guidance is necessary. This link doesn't directly host any copyrighted content to pirate or download, but rather it's just a homepage similar to what The Pirate Bay has, and yet it's Wikipedia page has had obvious notoriety over the years alongside the fact the link to the main website is still there. Regardless of how you feel about the copyright rules of Wikipedia, it's been very clear with the specifics around direct links to copyrighted content & this homepage doesn't fall under that bracket.
Having a discussion about a website while refusing to include the direct link to it's homepage is absolutely unusual. It's educational for obvious reasons.
Stop censoring the link. QuantumZazzy ( talk) 09:26, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
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possible copyright violations somewhere on the site, the whole site is copyvio. MrOllie ( talk) 14:50, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
possible copyright violations somewhere on the siteis not nearly as broad as the interpretation you are presenting here. MrOllie ( talk) 01:40, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
But "possible copyright violations somewhere on the site" covers that!So you've said, but the plain reading of those words indicates that there is some level of copyright violation that is unacceptable. I do not agree with your interpretation of why the exception is there, of course. I rather think it is there so we can link to sites hosting user generated content and the like, which may occasionally contain copyvio without being the focus of the site in question.
Also are you really arguing that a link to a website isn't relevant to our article on that website?No, I am arguing that many sorts of relevant information are not included on Wikipedia for various reasons. The encyclopedia isn't indiscriminate, so the mere fact that something is relevant does not mean it must be included. MrOllie ( talk) 01:57, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
the plain reading of those words indicates that there is some level of copyright violation that is unacceptable
The encyclopedia isn't indiscriminate, so the mere fact that something is relevant does not mean it must be included.
You say all this but for some reason you won't let the page get taken downTo be clear, whether the page is deleted or not is not up to me. I am not blocking deletion, no one could do that single-handed. I personally don't think that any option under the Wikipedia:Deletion policy applies, but if you read that policy and feel differently have at it. MrOllie ( talk) 02:40, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
Nor to my point about how the status quo is inclusion at almost every other relevant pageWP:OTHERSTUFF. MrOllie ( talk) 01:59, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
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Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 13:06, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
The reason I will keep re-adding the link to the homepage of FMovies is simple. It's educational by providing the correct information to those who want it. It's necessary for those who want to avoid fake links, and Wikipedia is a place where aiming for proper guidance is necessary. This link doesn't directly host any copyrighted content to pirate or download, but rather it's just a homepage similar to what The Pirate Bay has, and yet it's Wikipedia page has had obvious notoriety over the years alongside the fact the link to the main website is still there. Regardless of how you feel about the copyright rules of Wikipedia, it's been very clear with the specifics around direct links to copyrighted content & this homepage doesn't fall under that bracket.
Having a discussion about a website while refusing to include the direct link to it's homepage is absolutely unusual. It's educational for obvious reasons.
Stop censoring the link. QuantumZazzy ( talk) 09:26, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
<<Link redacted>>
possible copyright violations somewhere on the site, the whole site is copyvio. MrOllie ( talk) 14:50, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
possible copyright violations somewhere on the siteis not nearly as broad as the interpretation you are presenting here. MrOllie ( talk) 01:40, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
But "possible copyright violations somewhere on the site" covers that!So you've said, but the plain reading of those words indicates that there is some level of copyright violation that is unacceptable. I do not agree with your interpretation of why the exception is there, of course. I rather think it is there so we can link to sites hosting user generated content and the like, which may occasionally contain copyvio without being the focus of the site in question.
Also are you really arguing that a link to a website isn't relevant to our article on that website?No, I am arguing that many sorts of relevant information are not included on Wikipedia for various reasons. The encyclopedia isn't indiscriminate, so the mere fact that something is relevant does not mean it must be included. MrOllie ( talk) 01:57, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
the plain reading of those words indicates that there is some level of copyright violation that is unacceptable
The encyclopedia isn't indiscriminate, so the mere fact that something is relevant does not mean it must be included.
You say all this but for some reason you won't let the page get taken downTo be clear, whether the page is deleted or not is not up to me. I am not blocking deletion, no one could do that single-handed. I personally don't think that any option under the Wikipedia:Deletion policy applies, but if you read that policy and feel differently have at it. MrOllie ( talk) 02:40, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
Nor to my point about how the status quo is inclusion at almost every other relevant pageWP:OTHERSTUFF. MrOllie ( talk) 01:59, 18 January 2024 (UTC)