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Hi,
I’d like to declare myself as a representative of Finsbury PR. I’ve gone onto the page and deleted a couple of inaccuracies that I have explained and cited here. I’d also like to propose a couple additions, which are listed below. Happy to clarify further if necessary.
Thanks
Finsburyrep101 (
talk)
16:32, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for declaring your COI here. That is the way it should be (and should have been) done. Zezen ( talk) 08:04, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
Considering renaming this article as Finsbury Glover Hering and combining with The Glover Park Group to reflect the recent merger and rebrand. [1] Any help on this action would be appreciated.
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The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Vpab15 ( talk) 23:21, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
Finsbury (public relations) → FGS Global – The recent merger between Finsbury (public relations), Hering Schuppener, The Glover Park Group (later known collectively as FGH) and Sard Verbinnen & Co. resulted in an entity called FGS Global [1] [2]. Charlotte at FGS ( talk) 10:36, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
Hello. Now that the article has been renamed to reflect the current company, I'd like to suggest updates to the content as well. I've created a draft based on the existing article, which includes updates and references. It also trims the Wikipedia-related story and includes it as part of the History, according to WP:UNDUE and WP:CSECTION. Please have a look and let me know if it would be appropriate to implement into the main article.
Pinging 162 etc., Vpab15 and Philafrenzy as they may have some thoughts.
Thanks for your help, Charlotte at FGS ( talk) 11:37, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
On 12 NovemberIn 2012, The Times reported that Alisher Usmanov, a Russian billionaire who was about to launch one of the largest stock market listings in London for his MegaFon mobile phone companyhired RLM Finsburywhichto "covertly cleanedup" his online imageand removed details of his past" before the offering. [1] The Telegraph reportedspecificallythat the firm'sRLM Finsburystaff anonymously "deleted details of a Soviet-era criminal conviction and freedom of speech row" andthen"replaced those sections with text outlining Mr Usmanov's philanthropy and art collection." [2] According toO'Dwyer's PR, the firm publicly apologized in The Times, giving the following statement: "This was not done in the proper manner nor was this approach authorized by Mr. Usmanov. We apologize for this and it will not happen again."[3]
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Hi, I'd like to ask that the lead be updated to more accurately reflect all firms involved in the merger. Perhaps something like this would be appropriate?
FGS Global is a public relations company formed in 2021 by the merger of Finsbury Glover Hering and Sard Verbinnen & Co. It is a subsidiary of British advertising and media conglomerate WPP plc, and specialises in financial services clients.
Pinging Paul W in case he has a moment to look at this.
Thanks again for your help,
Charlotte at FGS (
talk) 09:11, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
Done
Paul W (
talk)
09:39, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
![]() | This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. A consensus could not be reached. |
Hello. Following a lengthy discussion above in which the engaged editor disclosed a potential historic conflict of interest, I'd like to request input from the rest of the community regarding the following:
Currently, all sections in the article focus on company-wide changes such as rebrands and mergers since inception aside from the one titled "2012 Wikipedia editing".
On 12 NovemberIn 2012, The Times reported that Alisher Usmanov, a Russian billionaire who was about to launch one of the largest stock market listings in London for his MegaFon mobile phone companyhired RLM Finsburywhichto "covertly cleanedup" his online imageand removed details of his past" before the offering. [1] The Telegraph reportedspecificallythat the firm'sRLM Finsburystaff anonymously "deleted details of a Soviet-era criminal conviction and freedom of speech row" andthen"replaced those sections with text outlining Mr Usmanov's philanthropy and art collection." [2] According toO'Dwyer's PR, the firm publicly apologized in The Times, giving the following statement: "This was not done in the proper manner nor was this approach authorized by Mr. Usmanov. We apologize for this and it will not happen again."[3]
References
Thank you for your time, Charlotte at FGS ( talk) 13:37, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
'the article should fairly represent all significant viewpoints that have been published by a verifiable source, and should do so in proportion to the prominence of each'( WP:RSUW). At the moment, the text relating to the Wikipedia editing (a prominent news story in the PR industry at the time) cites only three sources, but other disinterested editors might choose to add further 'prominent' verifiable sources. Achieving consensus isn't about how many people are engaged in discussion or editing (
the quality of an argument is more important than whether it represents a minority or a majority view), but - if required - consensus-building might be achieved through third opinions, dispute resolution noticeboard or requests for comment, for example. Paul W ( talk) 15:16, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
![]() | This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
Hello again.
I would like to suggest the addition of a "Predecessors" section to the article, perhaps after the Shareholders section, with a brief overview of the three firms currently listed in the infobox.
I have a drafted the following, and look forward to input from the community:
Predecessors
The Glover Park Group was founded in June 2001 by former White House and Democratic campaign officials Michael Feldman, Carter Eskew, Joe Lockhart and Chip Smith. [1] [2] It was a consultancy based in Washington, D.C. which assisted companies with their legislative goals using television advertising and public relations. [3] In November 2011, Glover Park was acquired by WPP. At the time, the firm had $60 million in annual revenue. [4] [5]
Sard Verbinnen & Co. was founded in 1992 by George Sard and Paul Verbinnen. The firm managed deals, investor relations, and crises. As of 2021, the company had more than 200 employees. [6]
Hering Schuppener was founded in 1995 by Ralf Hering and Bernd Schuppener and headquartered in Düsseldorf, Germany. [7] [8] The firm assisted with capital market communication including acquisitions, mergers, and restructuring, and advised clients on crisis public relations, reputation issues, and political communication. [9] [10]
References
Thank you, Charlotte at FGS ( talk) 14:48, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
Hi, just popped back on to revert what appeared to be vandalism in the lead. As per many sources, including this Guardian article, FGS is a PR company. Happy to discuss further if needed. Charlotte at FGS ( talk) 19:23, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
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![]() | The following Wikipedia contributor may be personally or professionally connected to the subject of this article. Relevant policies and guidelines may include
conflict of interest,
autobiography, and
neutral point of view.
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![]() | On 16 January 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Finsbury (public relations) to FGS Global. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Hi,
I’d like to declare myself as a representative of Finsbury PR. I’ve gone onto the page and deleted a couple of inaccuracies that I have explained and cited here. I’d also like to propose a couple additions, which are listed below. Happy to clarify further if necessary.
Thanks
Finsburyrep101 (
talk)
16:32, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for declaring your COI here. That is the way it should be (and should have been) done. Zezen ( talk) 08:04, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
Considering renaming this article as Finsbury Glover Hering and combining with The Glover Park Group to reflect the recent merger and rebrand. [1] Any help on this action would be appreciated.
References
{{
cite web}}
: Missing or empty |title=
(
help)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Vpab15 ( talk) 23:21, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
Finsbury (public relations) → FGS Global – The recent merger between Finsbury (public relations), Hering Schuppener, The Glover Park Group (later known collectively as FGH) and Sard Verbinnen & Co. resulted in an entity called FGS Global [1] [2]. Charlotte at FGS ( talk) 10:36, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
Hello. Now that the article has been renamed to reflect the current company, I'd like to suggest updates to the content as well. I've created a draft based on the existing article, which includes updates and references. It also trims the Wikipedia-related story and includes it as part of the History, according to WP:UNDUE and WP:CSECTION. Please have a look and let me know if it would be appropriate to implement into the main article.
Pinging 162 etc., Vpab15 and Philafrenzy as they may have some thoughts.
Thanks for your help, Charlotte at FGS ( talk) 11:37, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
On 12 NovemberIn 2012, The Times reported that Alisher Usmanov, a Russian billionaire who was about to launch one of the largest stock market listings in London for his MegaFon mobile phone companyhired RLM Finsburywhichto "covertly cleanedup" his online imageand removed details of his past" before the offering. [1] The Telegraph reportedspecificallythat the firm'sRLM Finsburystaff anonymously "deleted details of a Soviet-era criminal conviction and freedom of speech row" andthen"replaced those sections with text outlining Mr Usmanov's philanthropy and art collection." [2] According toO'Dwyer's PR, the firm publicly apologized in The Times, giving the following statement: "This was not done in the proper manner nor was this approach authorized by Mr. Usmanov. We apologize for this and it will not happen again."[3]
References
![]() | This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
Hi, I'd like to ask that the lead be updated to more accurately reflect all firms involved in the merger. Perhaps something like this would be appropriate?
FGS Global is a public relations company formed in 2021 by the merger of Finsbury Glover Hering and Sard Verbinnen & Co. It is a subsidiary of British advertising and media conglomerate WPP plc, and specialises in financial services clients.
Pinging Paul W in case he has a moment to look at this.
Thanks again for your help,
Charlotte at FGS (
talk) 09:11, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
Done
Paul W (
talk)
09:39, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
![]() | This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. A consensus could not be reached. |
Hello. Following a lengthy discussion above in which the engaged editor disclosed a potential historic conflict of interest, I'd like to request input from the rest of the community regarding the following:
Currently, all sections in the article focus on company-wide changes such as rebrands and mergers since inception aside from the one titled "2012 Wikipedia editing".
On 12 NovemberIn 2012, The Times reported that Alisher Usmanov, a Russian billionaire who was about to launch one of the largest stock market listings in London for his MegaFon mobile phone companyhired RLM Finsburywhichto "covertly cleanedup" his online imageand removed details of his past" before the offering. [1] The Telegraph reportedspecificallythat the firm'sRLM Finsburystaff anonymously "deleted details of a Soviet-era criminal conviction and freedom of speech row" andthen"replaced those sections with text outlining Mr Usmanov's philanthropy and art collection." [2] According toO'Dwyer's PR, the firm publicly apologized in The Times, giving the following statement: "This was not done in the proper manner nor was this approach authorized by Mr. Usmanov. We apologize for this and it will not happen again."[3]
References
Thank you for your time, Charlotte at FGS ( talk) 13:37, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
'the article should fairly represent all significant viewpoints that have been published by a verifiable source, and should do so in proportion to the prominence of each'( WP:RSUW). At the moment, the text relating to the Wikipedia editing (a prominent news story in the PR industry at the time) cites only three sources, but other disinterested editors might choose to add further 'prominent' verifiable sources. Achieving consensus isn't about how many people are engaged in discussion or editing (
the quality of an argument is more important than whether it represents a minority or a majority view), but - if required - consensus-building might be achieved through third opinions, dispute resolution noticeboard or requests for comment, for example. Paul W ( talk) 15:16, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
![]() | This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
Hello again.
I would like to suggest the addition of a "Predecessors" section to the article, perhaps after the Shareholders section, with a brief overview of the three firms currently listed in the infobox.
I have a drafted the following, and look forward to input from the community:
Predecessors
The Glover Park Group was founded in June 2001 by former White House and Democratic campaign officials Michael Feldman, Carter Eskew, Joe Lockhart and Chip Smith. [1] [2] It was a consultancy based in Washington, D.C. which assisted companies with their legislative goals using television advertising and public relations. [3] In November 2011, Glover Park was acquired by WPP. At the time, the firm had $60 million in annual revenue. [4] [5]
Sard Verbinnen & Co. was founded in 1992 by George Sard and Paul Verbinnen. The firm managed deals, investor relations, and crises. As of 2021, the company had more than 200 employees. [6]
Hering Schuppener was founded in 1995 by Ralf Hering and Bernd Schuppener and headquartered in Düsseldorf, Germany. [7] [8] The firm assisted with capital market communication including acquisitions, mergers, and restructuring, and advised clients on crisis public relations, reputation issues, and political communication. [9] [10]
References
Thank you, Charlotte at FGS ( talk) 14:48, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
Hi, just popped back on to revert what appeared to be vandalism in the lead. As per many sources, including this Guardian article, FGS is a PR company. Happy to discuss further if needed. Charlotte at FGS ( talk) 19:23, 28 September 2023 (UTC)