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The section on "Portrayals" is about portrayals of F. Scott Fitzgerald in movies, literature, etc. NOT about portrayals of his books in film form. Therefore the line mentioning the upcoming DiCaprio film has no business being in this section, which is why I removed it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.152.24.94 ( talk) 03:58, 24 June 2012 (UTC) <3
Should the portrayals be in chronological order? And are some of them ephemeral rather than durable? Would it benefit from rewriting?
Also, it omits an early and fairly authentic portrayal in fiction. This was in 1950 when Budd Schulberg published a novel, The Disenchanted, about making the film Winter Carnival in 1939, on which he and the hopelessly alcoholic Fitzgerald worked together at Dartmouth College. This includes a fictional appearance by Zelda.
Who removed the reference to Tennessee Williams's Clothes for a Summer Hotel, and why?
Hors-la-loi 14:31, 25 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hors-la-loi ( talk • contribs)
This is a really sloppy article considering the importance of the subject. Plus, most people don't know what paradigmatic means 173.21.65.42 ( talk) 02:58, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi folks, Francis Scott Key was F. Scott Fitzgerald's second cousin THREE times removed, NOT twice removed. Fitzgerald's great-grandmother, Eliza Key (1792-c.1866) was the second cousin of Key, hence the three times removal. If Key were to be Fitzgerald's second cousin twice removed, he'd have to be a second cousin of Fitzgerald's grandparent.
Here's the family tree evidence -> http://www.ronulrich.com/rfuged/fam10845.htm Hochingjaeng'E ( talk) 03:18, 5 March 2010 (UTC) ( talk) 22:17, 4 March 2010 (EST)
Silver girl seems like an odd thing to call someone, and looking back, I can see it used to be golden girl before it was changed by this individual. It is said that that particular description is "Fitzgerald's own words", but no citation is offered. Does anyone know which is the correct term and where/when Fitzgerald said it? -- Alex60466176 ( talk) 23:14, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
Is there any reason why Ginerva King isn't mentioned, but Zelda is? As far as I've read, she was the basis for several of his female characters, and strongly influenced him for the rest of his life. "The Perfect Hour" details the relationship and its effects well. If it's agreed upon that she is worthy of mention, I'll add a section (or at least a bit in "Early Years") TrevorRC ( talk) 20:29, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
By what standard/in what context is Zelda Fitzgerald "much more important" than Ms King? As public figures they're both nobodies, who so far as they're anybody, are so through their connection to Fitzgerald. And their relative importance to Fitzgerald and in Fitzgerald's life, who knows? Only he could say. Ms King certainly did appear in his literature a lot, and in a lot of the best of it. A man's first love is often "much more important" than you may think. Even the stormiest marriage can pale in comparison in a man's own mind to the devastation of a first, young love gone wrong.
Sign your contributions, please. And why this strange attempt to puff up Ginevra King? She was the love of Fitzgerald's teenage years. She may have influenced his description of the Rosemary character in his first novel, THIS SIDE OF PARADISE. And that is all. In his early twenties he met Zelda Sayre. According to him, his novel heroines who closely resembled her, numerous biographers, and close friends, he remained obsessively in love with her for many years. His contact with Ginevra King was very early and rather dim by comparison. Fitzgerald and King met once later in life, and he didn't seek a second meeting.
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Gilles Deleuze could be added as someone influenced by Fitzgerald. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.16.181.66 ( talk) 23:57, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Really? I've only read one biography of Fitzgerald, but it emphasised the fact that Fitzgerald had comparitively humble upbringings, and felt out of place at Newman and Princeton (something we can see evidenced in his work) because of them. I also remember how it stated that Fitzgerald's father was always in financial difficulties. - User:81.106.235.229 14:36, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
For more on the houses of Summit Avenue:
Many of these houses are so large that now they are multi-unit apartment buildings and condominiums. WikiDon
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:F._Scott_Fitzgerald&action=edit§ion=8#
Although this is perhaps not constructive (or related to any of the above comments), I'm writing to say that this page is beautifully written. With more work, it would be a good candidate for a Wikipedia featured article. -- Andrew Phelps 06:02, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
"Fitzgerald drew largely upon his wife’s intense personality in his writings, at times quoting direct segments of her personal diaries in his work. Zelda made mention of this in a 1922 mock review in the New York Tribune, saying that “[i]t seems to me that on one page I recognized a portion of an old diary of mine which mysteriously disappeared shortly after my marriage, and also scraps of letters which, though considerably edited, sound to me vaguely familiar. In fact, Mr. Fitzgerald—I believe that is how he spells his name—seems to believe that plagiarism begins at home" (Zelda Fitzgerald: The Collected Writings, 388)."
I say: move it from "The Jazz Age" to "Marriage to Zelda" who agree?-- Alik007 21:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Did Dorothy Parker really attend it? I think not but don't have access to anything at the moment that would settle the question. - User:4.236.165.189 23:38, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Apparently she really did say, "The poor son of a bitch" (stealing the line from Gatsby's funeral). And was probably unaware that this was her attempt at revenging herself--a third-rate writer-- on Fitzgerald, who was a first-rate one.
Younggoldchip ( talk) 20:30, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
I'd like to put my mark on this article, in the hopes that—as stated above—this could be a damned good featured article candidate. Including cleaning up the biography (which I started to organize, but will pick through later this evening), categorizing an expanded list of his works, citations, listing of background resources, links, etc., but also a bit of discussion on how his works impacted american literature (including references to his influences) and why they endure. Hopefully we can grab that "featured article status." — ExplorerCDT 21:41, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
I believe I read this (long ago) in Sheila Graham's account-- that Fitzgerald was eating a chocolate bar when he dropped dead. It always seemed like an aptly pleasure-seeking way for him to go-- and not a bad way for anyone to go. Worth including?
Oh, also... it's reap-what-you-SOW." -- Katestyr 20:39, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
It may have been more Zelda's sowing than Scott's,so far as the heart attack at an early age goes. I saw Jack Parr interview a friend of Shiela Graham's about 40 years ago. I believe it was Henry Morgan. In any case, the celebrity claimed that Sheila had told him that Scott actually had the heart attack when they were having sexual intercourse. This is hearsay, but hearsay worth keeping alive. If posting this makes me a gossip, I can only say that I would not mind such gossip being circulated about me after I pass. It is probably true, and more keeping with who he was than the idea that he died eating a chocolate bar. Greg Gibbs of Portland — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gregory Gibbs ( talk • contribs) 19:43, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
Let's discuss F.Scott Fitzgerald's short stories here. There are many questions on how Fitzgerald uses themes and symbols in his stories. - User:69.218.186.58 23:58, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
I think there should be a lock on this article due to some amounts of vandalism in it. Since I never got to see the article beforehand, hopefully someone can revert the titles of "The Homosexual Age," "the pimpin years," and "sex and shit." JWat 02:51, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Anything on his reputation? User:Veronicaaa 16:48, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Is it just me or is something wrong with the following passage: "Recast as This Side of Paradise, about the flapper generation of the Roaring 20s, it was accepted by Scribner's in the fall of 1919"?
I mean if he was writing in 1919, did he have ESP as to what the following decade would bring?
"He finished four novels, left a fifth unfinished" How do you leave a fifth of finished novels unfinished. Fix it or deprotect it. -- 71.168.37.81 ( talk) 12:34, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
I don't think left is the right term. He died before it was completed, so it wasn't like it was on purpose. "... but died before the fifth was completed." would seem more appropriate. Anyone agreed? No Stahr ( talk) 01:08, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
I was on the This Side of Paradise page and noticed this, removed it, and found it also on the Fitzgerald biography page. In editing, it's a plain "Fitzgerald," written inside two sets of brackets. I don't know how widespread the usage of this code is, but I'm going to give it at least a cursory glance. It produces the following message:
Does anyone know how to address this, beyond simply removing the code? Is there some starting point from which all future "Fitzgerald" tags will produce that message? Emailnuevo ( talk) 16:29, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Someone might want to remove the spoiler in the quotation from Jay Gatsby's funeral. Maybe just attribute it as a quote from the book? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sugarfreelemonade ( talk • contribs) 22:40, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure but I think that is one of his works, can any one verify and add that. 71.115.184.111 ( talk) 22:38, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Added Spengler as an influence. Citation: http://books.google.com/books?id=VDCWH1ljfhsC&pg=PA122&lpg=PA122&dq=fitzgerald+and+spengler&source=web&ots=AfBVT4tDrW&sig=Anjok6DcZo8xcyMIM3BKeek7EGw&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=10&ct=result 98.207.239.32 ( talk) 19:03, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
http://www.librarything.com/catalog/FScottFitzgerald lists the books in Fitzgerald's library. Joyce pops up a lot; perhaps he was an influence? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dynaninja ( talk • contribs) 23:51, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Bob Dylan says the words you've read all of F. Scott Fitzgerald's books in the song Ballad of a thin man. He is listing things that a certain person has accomplished in his life. Is this relevant as a topic discussion. I was thinking something like Media or Pop culture.
"while he lived with his f### buddy Sheilah Graham"
Tried to edit, but the edit page appears with the correct word "lover". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.226.144.165 ( talk) 07:02, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
I don't know how to fix it, but the link in Fitzgerald's short stories goes to a movie not an article about his short story. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.253.252.232 ( talk) 20:38, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
"Most [critics/reviewers] were thrown off by its [Tender is the Night] five-part structure..." So are we to assume that they'd have been fine with a three-part structure, and even accepted a four-part structure, but five was just too much? PiCo ( talk) 05:43, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
West was not killed on the way back from FSF's funeral, but from Mexico, where he had gone on a hunting trip. This happened the day after FSF's funeral and therefore has been equated in the popular imagination with the day before, probably to stimulate a sense of irony or tragedy commensurate with romanticised versions of writers' lives. --Anon
The text is also confusing because it states that Fitzgerald had two funerals, one in Los Angeles and one in Bethesda, Maryland. Perhaps the first was a memorial service? -- 72.70.10.100 ( talk) 19:23, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
"But the impact of Zelda's personality on his work and life is often overstated, as much of his earliest writings reflect the personality of a first love, Ginevra King. In fact, the character of Daisy as much represents his inability to cultivate his relationship with King as it does the ever-present fact of Zelda. (Although Gatsby's economic failure to immediately wed Daisy in 1917, with an eventual return in financial triumph, does closely mirror Fitzgerald's own experiences with his future wife.)"
very interesting.
heart, z0wb13 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.102.109.137 ( talk) 07:43, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
The link to this short story is to a movie about some junkie. Something tells me this isn't what Fitzgerald had in mind when Esquire published this back in 1938. Jim Steele ( talk) 01:00, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
The article states "Born in Nottingham, Minnesota . . . " This is wrong. As given in Matthew J. Bruccoli's biography (and numerous other reliable sources), Fitzgerald was born at 581 Laurel Avenue, St. Paul, Minnesota. Detlef4 ( talk) 21:56, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
Does this work even exist? I've searched everywhere I know to look and, besides this entry and sites that have aped it, I found no reference to an essay titled "On Negative Capability" by Fitzgerald. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.180.111.233 ( talk) 10:09, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
"Fitzgerald attended St. Paul Academy in St. Paul from 1908–1911."
"When he was 16, he was expelled from St. Paul Academy for neglecting his studies. He attended Newman School, a prep school in Hackensack, New Jersey, in 1911–1912."
He was born in 1896, so he turned 16 in 1912. So this means he was still at St. Paul Academy in 1912 or 1913, right? So how could he have been attending Newman school in 1911-1912??? 67.1.93.134 ( talk) 07:15, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
The section on "Portrayals" is about portrayals of F. Scott Fitzgerald in movies, literature, etc. NOT about portrayals of his books in film form. Therefore the line mentioning the upcoming DiCaprio film has no business being in this section, which is why I removed it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.152.24.94 ( talk) 03:58, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
Who removed the reference to Tennessee Williams's Clothes for a Summer Hotel and why?
The reference link to a page at hermes.hrc.ntu.edu.tw that allegedly discusses FSF's parent's is broken, and perhaps bogus. konetidy ( talk) 09:10, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
So, are you actually going to discuss this or not? Silver seren C 20:40, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
There's a 1939 audio recording of Fitzgerald (the only one known) that is housed in the Princeton special collections. You can listen to this on Studio 360's "American Icons: The Great Gatsby" broadcast (Episode #1148, November 25, 2010) at 15:00. I wonder if it's possible to get a digital copy of the recording from the library to add to the article by asking. Jason Quinn ( talk) 19:09, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
The phrase "jazz age" is commonly regarded as being invented by Fitzgerald, and there must be thousands of authorities that could be cited to support that claim. Nevertheless the OED now shows that there was a 1920 usage before Fitzgerald's 1922 one ( http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/100938?redirectedFrom=jazz+age#eid40333412). I'm therefore removing the statement in the lede that it was Fitzgerald's coinage. -- Antiquary ( talk) 10:55, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
Surely Fitzgerald had more notable works than just The Great Gatsby. What about This Side of Paradise, Tender Is the Night, The Last Tycoon, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Winter Dreams, Babylon Revisited et cetera?
(This is in relation to only The Great Gatsby being cited as a notable work in the infobox.)
Scott’s wiki page says While at a country club, Fitzgerald met and fell in love with Zelda Sayre...
Zelda’s wiki page says Scott and Zelda's first encounter was in a train station, which Scott later wrote into The Great Gatsby.
Could we have an expert opinion, please? Valetude ( talk) 20:22, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
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The section on "Portrayals" is about portrayals of F. Scott Fitzgerald in movies, literature, etc. NOT about portrayals of his books in film form. Therefore the line mentioning the upcoming DiCaprio film has no business being in this section, which is why I removed it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.152.24.94 ( talk) 03:58, 24 June 2012 (UTC) <3
Should the portrayals be in chronological order? And are some of them ephemeral rather than durable? Would it benefit from rewriting?
Also, it omits an early and fairly authentic portrayal in fiction. This was in 1950 when Budd Schulberg published a novel, The Disenchanted, about making the film Winter Carnival in 1939, on which he and the hopelessly alcoholic Fitzgerald worked together at Dartmouth College. This includes a fictional appearance by Zelda.
Who removed the reference to Tennessee Williams's Clothes for a Summer Hotel, and why?
Hors-la-loi 14:31, 25 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hors-la-loi ( talk • contribs)
This is a really sloppy article considering the importance of the subject. Plus, most people don't know what paradigmatic means 173.21.65.42 ( talk) 02:58, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi folks, Francis Scott Key was F. Scott Fitzgerald's second cousin THREE times removed, NOT twice removed. Fitzgerald's great-grandmother, Eliza Key (1792-c.1866) was the second cousin of Key, hence the three times removal. If Key were to be Fitzgerald's second cousin twice removed, he'd have to be a second cousin of Fitzgerald's grandparent.
Here's the family tree evidence -> http://www.ronulrich.com/rfuged/fam10845.htm Hochingjaeng'E ( talk) 03:18, 5 March 2010 (UTC) ( talk) 22:17, 4 March 2010 (EST)
Silver girl seems like an odd thing to call someone, and looking back, I can see it used to be golden girl before it was changed by this individual. It is said that that particular description is "Fitzgerald's own words", but no citation is offered. Does anyone know which is the correct term and where/when Fitzgerald said it? -- Alex60466176 ( talk) 23:14, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
Is there any reason why Ginerva King isn't mentioned, but Zelda is? As far as I've read, she was the basis for several of his female characters, and strongly influenced him for the rest of his life. "The Perfect Hour" details the relationship and its effects well. If it's agreed upon that she is worthy of mention, I'll add a section (or at least a bit in "Early Years") TrevorRC ( talk) 20:29, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
By what standard/in what context is Zelda Fitzgerald "much more important" than Ms King? As public figures they're both nobodies, who so far as they're anybody, are so through their connection to Fitzgerald. And their relative importance to Fitzgerald and in Fitzgerald's life, who knows? Only he could say. Ms King certainly did appear in his literature a lot, and in a lot of the best of it. A man's first love is often "much more important" than you may think. Even the stormiest marriage can pale in comparison in a man's own mind to the devastation of a first, young love gone wrong.
Sign your contributions, please. And why this strange attempt to puff up Ginevra King? She was the love of Fitzgerald's teenage years. She may have influenced his description of the Rosemary character in his first novel, THIS SIDE OF PARADISE. And that is all. In his early twenties he met Zelda Sayre. According to him, his novel heroines who closely resembled her, numerous biographers, and close friends, he remained obsessively in love with her for many years. His contact with Ginevra King was very early and rather dim by comparison. Fitzgerald and King met once later in life, and he didn't seek a second meeting.
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Gilles Deleuze could be added as someone influenced by Fitzgerald. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.16.181.66 ( talk) 23:57, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Really? I've only read one biography of Fitzgerald, but it emphasised the fact that Fitzgerald had comparitively humble upbringings, and felt out of place at Newman and Princeton (something we can see evidenced in his work) because of them. I also remember how it stated that Fitzgerald's father was always in financial difficulties. - User:81.106.235.229 14:36, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
For more on the houses of Summit Avenue:
Many of these houses are so large that now they are multi-unit apartment buildings and condominiums. WikiDon
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:F._Scott_Fitzgerald&action=edit§ion=8#
Although this is perhaps not constructive (or related to any of the above comments), I'm writing to say that this page is beautifully written. With more work, it would be a good candidate for a Wikipedia featured article. -- Andrew Phelps 06:02, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
"Fitzgerald drew largely upon his wife’s intense personality in his writings, at times quoting direct segments of her personal diaries in his work. Zelda made mention of this in a 1922 mock review in the New York Tribune, saying that “[i]t seems to me that on one page I recognized a portion of an old diary of mine which mysteriously disappeared shortly after my marriage, and also scraps of letters which, though considerably edited, sound to me vaguely familiar. In fact, Mr. Fitzgerald—I believe that is how he spells his name—seems to believe that plagiarism begins at home" (Zelda Fitzgerald: The Collected Writings, 388)."
I say: move it from "The Jazz Age" to "Marriage to Zelda" who agree?-- Alik007 21:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Did Dorothy Parker really attend it? I think not but don't have access to anything at the moment that would settle the question. - User:4.236.165.189 23:38, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Apparently she really did say, "The poor son of a bitch" (stealing the line from Gatsby's funeral). And was probably unaware that this was her attempt at revenging herself--a third-rate writer-- on Fitzgerald, who was a first-rate one.
Younggoldchip ( talk) 20:30, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
I'd like to put my mark on this article, in the hopes that—as stated above—this could be a damned good featured article candidate. Including cleaning up the biography (which I started to organize, but will pick through later this evening), categorizing an expanded list of his works, citations, listing of background resources, links, etc., but also a bit of discussion on how his works impacted american literature (including references to his influences) and why they endure. Hopefully we can grab that "featured article status." — ExplorerCDT 21:41, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
I believe I read this (long ago) in Sheila Graham's account-- that Fitzgerald was eating a chocolate bar when he dropped dead. It always seemed like an aptly pleasure-seeking way for him to go-- and not a bad way for anyone to go. Worth including?
Oh, also... it's reap-what-you-SOW." -- Katestyr 20:39, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
It may have been more Zelda's sowing than Scott's,so far as the heart attack at an early age goes. I saw Jack Parr interview a friend of Shiela Graham's about 40 years ago. I believe it was Henry Morgan. In any case, the celebrity claimed that Sheila had told him that Scott actually had the heart attack when they were having sexual intercourse. This is hearsay, but hearsay worth keeping alive. If posting this makes me a gossip, I can only say that I would not mind such gossip being circulated about me after I pass. It is probably true, and more keeping with who he was than the idea that he died eating a chocolate bar. Greg Gibbs of Portland — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gregory Gibbs ( talk • contribs) 19:43, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
Let's discuss F.Scott Fitzgerald's short stories here. There are many questions on how Fitzgerald uses themes and symbols in his stories. - User:69.218.186.58 23:58, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
I think there should be a lock on this article due to some amounts of vandalism in it. Since I never got to see the article beforehand, hopefully someone can revert the titles of "The Homosexual Age," "the pimpin years," and "sex and shit." JWat 02:51, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Anything on his reputation? User:Veronicaaa 16:48, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Is it just me or is something wrong with the following passage: "Recast as This Side of Paradise, about the flapper generation of the Roaring 20s, it was accepted by Scribner's in the fall of 1919"?
I mean if he was writing in 1919, did he have ESP as to what the following decade would bring?
"He finished four novels, left a fifth unfinished" How do you leave a fifth of finished novels unfinished. Fix it or deprotect it. -- 71.168.37.81 ( talk) 12:34, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
I don't think left is the right term. He died before it was completed, so it wasn't like it was on purpose. "... but died before the fifth was completed." would seem more appropriate. Anyone agreed? No Stahr ( talk) 01:08, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
I was on the This Side of Paradise page and noticed this, removed it, and found it also on the Fitzgerald biography page. In editing, it's a plain "Fitzgerald," written inside two sets of brackets. I don't know how widespread the usage of this code is, but I'm going to give it at least a cursory glance. It produces the following message:
Does anyone know how to address this, beyond simply removing the code? Is there some starting point from which all future "Fitzgerald" tags will produce that message? Emailnuevo ( talk) 16:29, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Someone might want to remove the spoiler in the quotation from Jay Gatsby's funeral. Maybe just attribute it as a quote from the book? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sugarfreelemonade ( talk • contribs) 22:40, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure but I think that is one of his works, can any one verify and add that. 71.115.184.111 ( talk) 22:38, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Added Spengler as an influence. Citation: http://books.google.com/books?id=VDCWH1ljfhsC&pg=PA122&lpg=PA122&dq=fitzgerald+and+spengler&source=web&ots=AfBVT4tDrW&sig=Anjok6DcZo8xcyMIM3BKeek7EGw&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=10&ct=result 98.207.239.32 ( talk) 19:03, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
http://www.librarything.com/catalog/FScottFitzgerald lists the books in Fitzgerald's library. Joyce pops up a lot; perhaps he was an influence? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dynaninja ( talk • contribs) 23:51, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Bob Dylan says the words you've read all of F. Scott Fitzgerald's books in the song Ballad of a thin man. He is listing things that a certain person has accomplished in his life. Is this relevant as a topic discussion. I was thinking something like Media or Pop culture.
"while he lived with his f### buddy Sheilah Graham"
Tried to edit, but the edit page appears with the correct word "lover". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.226.144.165 ( talk) 07:02, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
I don't know how to fix it, but the link in Fitzgerald's short stories goes to a movie not an article about his short story. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.253.252.232 ( talk) 20:38, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
"Most [critics/reviewers] were thrown off by its [Tender is the Night] five-part structure..." So are we to assume that they'd have been fine with a three-part structure, and even accepted a four-part structure, but five was just too much? PiCo ( talk) 05:43, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
West was not killed on the way back from FSF's funeral, but from Mexico, where he had gone on a hunting trip. This happened the day after FSF's funeral and therefore has been equated in the popular imagination with the day before, probably to stimulate a sense of irony or tragedy commensurate with romanticised versions of writers' lives. --Anon
The text is also confusing because it states that Fitzgerald had two funerals, one in Los Angeles and one in Bethesda, Maryland. Perhaps the first was a memorial service? -- 72.70.10.100 ( talk) 19:23, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
"But the impact of Zelda's personality on his work and life is often overstated, as much of his earliest writings reflect the personality of a first love, Ginevra King. In fact, the character of Daisy as much represents his inability to cultivate his relationship with King as it does the ever-present fact of Zelda. (Although Gatsby's economic failure to immediately wed Daisy in 1917, with an eventual return in financial triumph, does closely mirror Fitzgerald's own experiences with his future wife.)"
very interesting.
heart, z0wb13 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.102.109.137 ( talk) 07:43, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
The link to this short story is to a movie about some junkie. Something tells me this isn't what Fitzgerald had in mind when Esquire published this back in 1938. Jim Steele ( talk) 01:00, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
The article states "Born in Nottingham, Minnesota . . . " This is wrong. As given in Matthew J. Bruccoli's biography (and numerous other reliable sources), Fitzgerald was born at 581 Laurel Avenue, St. Paul, Minnesota. Detlef4 ( talk) 21:56, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
Does this work even exist? I've searched everywhere I know to look and, besides this entry and sites that have aped it, I found no reference to an essay titled "On Negative Capability" by Fitzgerald. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.180.111.233 ( talk) 10:09, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
"Fitzgerald attended St. Paul Academy in St. Paul from 1908–1911."
"When he was 16, he was expelled from St. Paul Academy for neglecting his studies. He attended Newman School, a prep school in Hackensack, New Jersey, in 1911–1912."
He was born in 1896, so he turned 16 in 1912. So this means he was still at St. Paul Academy in 1912 or 1913, right? So how could he have been attending Newman school in 1911-1912??? 67.1.93.134 ( talk) 07:15, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
The section on "Portrayals" is about portrayals of F. Scott Fitzgerald in movies, literature, etc. NOT about portrayals of his books in film form. Therefore the line mentioning the upcoming DiCaprio film has no business being in this section, which is why I removed it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.152.24.94 ( talk) 03:58, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
Who removed the reference to Tennessee Williams's Clothes for a Summer Hotel and why?
The reference link to a page at hermes.hrc.ntu.edu.tw that allegedly discusses FSF's parent's is broken, and perhaps bogus. konetidy ( talk) 09:10, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
So, are you actually going to discuss this or not? Silver seren C 20:40, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
There's a 1939 audio recording of Fitzgerald (the only one known) that is housed in the Princeton special collections. You can listen to this on Studio 360's "American Icons: The Great Gatsby" broadcast (Episode #1148, November 25, 2010) at 15:00. I wonder if it's possible to get a digital copy of the recording from the library to add to the article by asking. Jason Quinn ( talk) 19:09, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
The phrase "jazz age" is commonly regarded as being invented by Fitzgerald, and there must be thousands of authorities that could be cited to support that claim. Nevertheless the OED now shows that there was a 1920 usage before Fitzgerald's 1922 one ( http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/100938?redirectedFrom=jazz+age#eid40333412). I'm therefore removing the statement in the lede that it was Fitzgerald's coinage. -- Antiquary ( talk) 10:55, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
Surely Fitzgerald had more notable works than just The Great Gatsby. What about This Side of Paradise, Tender Is the Night, The Last Tycoon, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Winter Dreams, Babylon Revisited et cetera?
(This is in relation to only The Great Gatsby being cited as a notable work in the infobox.)
Scott’s wiki page says While at a country club, Fitzgerald met and fell in love with Zelda Sayre...
Zelda’s wiki page says Scott and Zelda's first encounter was in a train station, which Scott later wrote into The Great Gatsby.
Could we have an expert opinion, please? Valetude ( talk) 20:22, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
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