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Fänrik is the lowest commissioned officer rank.
As a result of a reform (Ny Befals Ordning, eary 1980s), NCO, WO, CO were all made officers with the lowest rank set to Fanrik. Also, new officers no longer receive an officer’s commission (Officers fullmakt). That is, a Fanrik is an officer without commission. In other words a non-commissioned officer (NCO). An active officer who was made an officer before 1980 is, indeed, a commissioned officer. However, there should be no one in service today.
Therefore, we should use the more general term officer here.
-- Malin Randstrom ( talk) 14:46, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
As this rank is the lowest profesional military rank in Sweden, I changed it accordingly. -- Malin Randstrom ( talk) 15:06, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
If merged to Second Lieutenant, material on officer's training in Sweden could be salvaged to another article on that subject. Tomas e ( talk) 18:54, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your suggestion to merge with Second Lieutenant. Currently, this rank does not at all correspond to Second Lieutenant even though it is translated officially to this by the Swedish Armed Forces. Due to the major confusion regarding Swedish ranks cased by the implemenation of the NBO reform 1983, a new two-career-path system is being implemented that will elevate this rank closer to Second Lieutenant. NBO 83 is a very unfortunate social experiment (absurd) where all military personnel should be officers with the lowest professional rank set to Fanrik. You are certainly aware of the hyper inflation of Swedish ranks while the ranks of other nations such as in the US Army and USCM have been constant. In effect Fanrik become what corporals use to be.
The educational information is part of defining the rank and I agree that it should be put somewhere else with a link from this page to that page.
-- Malin Randstrom ( talk) 13:27, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
The section has been moved away to a separate article as suggested -- Malin Randstrom ( talk) 07:21, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
I appreciate all your edits; but your claim that a vänrikki, who has only 12 months of military service, is assigned as commander of a battery or company upon mobilization seems very unlikely. Please verify this. -- Malin Randstrom ( talk) 05:56, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
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unsigned comment added by
Malin Tokyo (
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Fänrik is the lowest commissioned officer rank.
As a result of a reform (Ny Befals Ordning, eary 1980s), NCO, WO, CO were all made officers with the lowest rank set to Fanrik. Also, new officers no longer receive an officer’s commission (Officers fullmakt). That is, a Fanrik is an officer without commission. In other words a non-commissioned officer (NCO). An active officer who was made an officer before 1980 is, indeed, a commissioned officer. However, there should be no one in service today.
Therefore, we should use the more general term officer here.
-- Malin Randstrom ( talk) 14:46, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
As this rank is the lowest profesional military rank in Sweden, I changed it accordingly. -- Malin Randstrom ( talk) 15:06, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
If merged to Second Lieutenant, material on officer's training in Sweden could be salvaged to another article on that subject. Tomas e ( talk) 18:54, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your suggestion to merge with Second Lieutenant. Currently, this rank does not at all correspond to Second Lieutenant even though it is translated officially to this by the Swedish Armed Forces. Due to the major confusion regarding Swedish ranks cased by the implemenation of the NBO reform 1983, a new two-career-path system is being implemented that will elevate this rank closer to Second Lieutenant. NBO 83 is a very unfortunate social experiment (absurd) where all military personnel should be officers with the lowest professional rank set to Fanrik. You are certainly aware of the hyper inflation of Swedish ranks while the ranks of other nations such as in the US Army and USCM have been constant. In effect Fanrik become what corporals use to be.
The educational information is part of defining the rank and I agree that it should be put somewhere else with a link from this page to that page.
-- Malin Randstrom ( talk) 13:27, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
The section has been moved away to a separate article as suggested -- Malin Randstrom ( talk) 07:21, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
I appreciate all your edits; but your claim that a vänrikki, who has only 12 months of military service, is assigned as commander of a battery or company upon mobilization seems very unlikely. Please verify this. -- Malin Randstrom ( talk) 05:56, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
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