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Somebody who understands legalese better than I do might want to add that a federal court threw out most of EO 13233 in October 2007. In other words, this is all old. See:
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20071001/index.htm (with link to PDF of the ruling) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.162.40.48 ( talk) 20:46, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
There is new information on the White House Website http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/ExecutiveOrderPresidentialRecords/ regarding this executive order. It says "Sec. 6. Revocation. Executive Order 13233 of November 1, 2001, is revoked." [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.219.227.182 ( talk) 00:44, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Those are two of the questions that pop to my mind that don't seem to appear in the article, but should be in the opening paragraph probably. I've been reading over the text of the EO, but I am not a lawyer and can't really get my head around it :) -- Fxer 06:03, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
The EO will not expire unless repealed by a future EO, a public law, or a court decision.
The records are still protected 12 years under EO 13233, but now record can be kept under wraps much longer at the discretion of the a former president or his/her heirs.
The first two references from archives.gov are dead... anyone know of a replacement? (unsigned question from Psantora 04:52, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
It seems to me that this article may be leaning towards one point of view. Whether or not that view is in the end valid, it introduces a bias which is not befitting of an encylopedia article. The only source cited explicitly in the body of the article is an anti-bush website. So I think this article may need a partial rewrite to make it more informational and less persuasive. - 192.104.254.70 16:42, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
This article could surely do with more references, and perhaps even deserves an "unreferenced" tag - but at this point, I don't think it warrants the "bias" tag, so I shall remove it. BlackberryLaw 04:05, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
I propose merging Presidential Records Act Amendments of 2007 to this article. The PRA Amendments did not pass (See [1]), and the 110th Congress is now history; it cannot be passed (although a bill with the same content but different name could be re-introduced and passed). There's little or nothing in Presidential Records Act Amendments of 2007 that is not already in this article, in the section Congressional response. TJRC ( talk) 00:03, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
What was the 1972 Act? Can someone cite it here?— Markles 14:37, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Whoops. I meant 1974. The current version of this article states in the "Background" section: "In 1974, Congress passed legislation…." What is it?— Markles 17:23, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
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Somebody who understands legalese better than I do might want to add that a federal court threw out most of EO 13233 in October 2007. In other words, this is all old. See:
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20071001/index.htm (with link to PDF of the ruling) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.162.40.48 ( talk) 20:46, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
There is new information on the White House Website http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/ExecutiveOrderPresidentialRecords/ regarding this executive order. It says "Sec. 6. Revocation. Executive Order 13233 of November 1, 2001, is revoked." [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.219.227.182 ( talk) 00:44, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Those are two of the questions that pop to my mind that don't seem to appear in the article, but should be in the opening paragraph probably. I've been reading over the text of the EO, but I am not a lawyer and can't really get my head around it :) -- Fxer 06:03, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
The EO will not expire unless repealed by a future EO, a public law, or a court decision.
The records are still protected 12 years under EO 13233, but now record can be kept under wraps much longer at the discretion of the a former president or his/her heirs.
The first two references from archives.gov are dead... anyone know of a replacement? (unsigned question from Psantora 04:52, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
It seems to me that this article may be leaning towards one point of view. Whether or not that view is in the end valid, it introduces a bias which is not befitting of an encylopedia article. The only source cited explicitly in the body of the article is an anti-bush website. So I think this article may need a partial rewrite to make it more informational and less persuasive. - 192.104.254.70 16:42, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
This article could surely do with more references, and perhaps even deserves an "unreferenced" tag - but at this point, I don't think it warrants the "bias" tag, so I shall remove it. BlackberryLaw 04:05, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
I propose merging Presidential Records Act Amendments of 2007 to this article. The PRA Amendments did not pass (See [1]), and the 110th Congress is now history; it cannot be passed (although a bill with the same content but different name could be re-introduced and passed). There's little or nothing in Presidential Records Act Amendments of 2007 that is not already in this article, in the section Congressional response. TJRC ( talk) 00:03, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
What was the 1972 Act? Can someone cite it here?— Markles 14:37, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Whoops. I meant 1974. The current version of this article states in the "Background" section: "In 1974, Congress passed legislation…." What is it?— Markles 17:23, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
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